If the Eye is an Arbiter, then it would make sense that it's true form exists outside of time, and thus is not bound to the linear experiences of the characters in the game. In that case, it would make total sense it could see alternative paths and know roughly what the future and past are like.
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openup212
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Personally, i always thought that those "two" are 3th and 4th. And the Eye needs power of at least one of them to fight against Malik and Berni.
openup212
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WW on one of his streams said he doesnt like alteranative timelines and his universe have only one timeline(although i can be wrong)
weezal
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Then wtf is Deus doing? He seems to be seeing different timelines or something kinda like that
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Unlikely. The 3rd and 4th have never been seen by HERO according to Sharon and Xanthe is surprised by MC powers being superior to other memory and body users, except Ella. Indicating that those two rarely visit earth enough to leave shells and avatars around. Not to mention, the Origin saw the twins during MCs evolution. If the Origin was after them, they would've just came down from their realm and let him eat their shells or avatar.
That's why it's likely not the Apostles he's after. The 3rd and 4th wasn't in Hex dimension during the Battle of Diamonds, yet he went back to it to search for "her" instead of leaving the universe. They also still aren't yet on earth as well during this update, because the Black Moon just arrived. So that rules them out again, because he only decided to flee when he realized they were too strong for the current him.
WW has said a lot of things on his stream but also said not to trust his word at the same time. The new dead end with the Origin pretty much confirms that there's alternate timelines, at least. And that the Origin actually never dies. Only his physical body is destroyed and he returns to his higher plane until an alternate MC reaches a point to where he can wake up and descend again.
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RabbidSupreme
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I believe Jake was another, Aglaecwif mentions him as a potential inheritor of Order.
XeroZero000
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Imo, it's probably that the future is always uncertain and hasn't been decided yet. So, Deus and Zack (iirc) are spying on the possible futures, and they're just fine-tuning and creating their desired future.
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I thought Zack's whole thing was that he could just create a "save point" and loop back to it if things don't go well. Deus on the other hand is doing some real mystical shit. Seeing through that screen monster in the dream world. His reaction to the eye dead-end during the diamond battle. Being able to somehow just kill MC through time. Blud is not playing by the same rules as everyone else. It's kind of remarkable the big 3 trust this man to not do something crazy.
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There's a world out there, go explore it and get yourself some hobbies or whatever, rob a bank or some shit.
DrakoGhoul
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That's the thing. They don't know, according to Dexter and Xanthe. Deus is keeping all kinds of secrets and is doing his own thing in the background. If he truly has control of Time and Space, they can't outmaneuver him without him knowing it's coming. Especially if he also reached the point of control with Time and Space to wield Infinity. Assuming he has dual traits like MC and Henri. He was supposedly the only one who could corner Hex, who also wields Time and Space to form Dimensions.
Some spoilers about Jake, pretty generic and lacking in detail but still, if you did not reach at least the HERO arc of the game then it might be best not to read.
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shujuku
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Jake may have gotten powers from the 1st order lady whatever but he was mentally unfit for those powers. Those powers are fit for autistic RTS players not some overweight nerd.
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Also with him getting his ass truly handed to him this could disqualify him from ever naturally evolving to level 5. We do not know the rules but that could be part of it, and never being able to hit 5 naturally would really limit his power. We also know reaching level 5 is pretty important through Ella evolving and then realizing she wasn't the one.
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XeroZero000
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He might still be able to become level 5 with serum, but since he deviated from his original path, he might become something else.
DrakoGhoul
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Losing doesn't disqualify you from reaching Level 5. If it did, MC won't reach it as well for losing badly to Klaus in their first fight. Then there's losing to Deryl before he turned into a monster. Or when he lost to Jake during their prison fight. Or when MC lost to Shen, Devana and Evander.
Will it lower Jake's chance of evolving? Probably. But even Danica after getting a thorough beating by MC still reached Level 3 naturally. Besides, why are we taking Ella's word for it anyway? She didn't reach Level 5 naturally herself and doesn't actually know what it entails. Only people who would know are Malik, Bernhardt and Henri. Everyone else is just guessing.
Will it lower Jake's chance of evolving? Probably. But even Danica after getting a thorough beating by MC still reached Level 3 naturally. Besides, why are we taking Ella's word for it anyway? She didn't reach Level 5 naturally herself and doesn't actually know what it entails. Only people who would know are Malik, Bernhardt and Henri. Everyone else is just guessing.
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well there is the possibility that MC will not be able to reach level 5 naturally. I can't remember the dialog but someone did mention that MC could already be disqualified without knowing. Reaching level 3 is completely different to 5. There seems to be specific trials required.
Esperaré a que salga la nueva actualización porque cada vez que avanzo en el se sale más rápido del juego.
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El copium es malo hermano .
Pero para finales de este mes puede que salga la nueva versión.
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To be honest, they're about equal in terms of being massive stop gates between evolutions. I think because we reached it ourselves, Level 3 starts to feel easy. But earlier in the game, Level 3 was some of the hardest for Level 2s to reach. That said, Level 5 does seem to have requirements, but we don't know what any of it is. Even what the Origin tells MC is only for his benefit to possess him.
Anyway, that was Clark who said that. After MC helped him defeat the sewer monster, I believe. But, MC probably won't ever be prevented from his natural 5th evolution. Seems nearly impossible with the complete trait for his power being Evolution. He might not have a perfect evolution like Malik and Bernhardt, but he'll definitely reach it like Henri did, if nothing else.
XeroZero000
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Didn't the eye said something about evolution takes trials and errors or something along that line. If MC inherents or going to have same part of evolution then Mc going to get EVO 5 until he perfected his evolution I guess.