VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99] [WeirdWorld]

[Dark479]

That is straight up wrong. I went back and checked those exact choices. No mention of "12 bullets going thorugh MC's brain", no 12 connections, nothing. The only thing that happens with those answers is that if you choose Despair, you get deadend 41, which is a failed evolution. Not even the Arbiter Deadend mentions anything about the 12 apostoles.

Not my fault you weren't paying attention.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Well, if the MC turned his electricity weakness to electricity absorption, Indra functionally wouldn't be a fully-powered Chosen. He'd be down one of his strongest weapons, and "only" be an incredibly physically powerful combatant with literal eons of experience in hand to hand combat. So okay, yeah, it would still be a really tough fight. There would probably have to be an additional circumstantial factor giving the MC an advantage. I still think it's a plausible scenario, though. At the very least the MC evolving from confronting Indra sounds likely to me.

Yo this might actually be the fight where mc finally gets over his electricity problem.Indra being the lightning god he is might be just what mc needs to overcome his electricity problem.Not to mention level 4 being limit breaker stage aswell.

 

[Gtdead]

Pay attention to what happens..."What are you?" Correct answer: a human, "what do you need?" Correct answer: resurrection, "What do you want?" Correct answer: a heart. And then the MC gets the feeling of something like 12 bullets going through his brain and he feels the 12 are trying to connect to him and potentially to each other. Not to mention that all 12 gave the MC power to escape the dream...yeah, that was resurrection and it was performed by the 12 apostles.

You've got it wrong:

"I lost my cool."
"A moment was all they were waiting for, just the briefest slip in control."
"And as soon as they got it, it was over. The tidal wave of memories came bursting forth, shattering the dam that was my mind."
You "Hrrghh...."
"My nerves burn with fire; agony explodes from every limb."
"The memories take over my tails."

Once MC loses his cool, the memories assault his mind.

"I'm shot twelve times. Twelve bullets hammer into my mind."
"I can feel each of them burrowing deeper, seeking to connect to something, to each other? To me? To something beyond myself?"
"The destruction of my body eases the burden, the memories retreating just slightly. My mind consolidates-"

His memories cause him pain and confusion and similar to deadend1, once he gets damaged, he regains control of his mind.

From there on, the choices manipulate the 3 variables, memorysucceed, memoryascend and nothingmemory
memorysucceed positive is the correct answer for low corruption runs
nothingmemory is the correct answer for high corruption runs
memoryascend is the wrong answer which leads to deadend42 and deadend43

memorysucceed positive:
Human, Death, Heart or Weapon

memorysucceed negative:
Monster, Evolution

nothingmemory:
nothing, nothing. nothing. nothing

memoryascend:
God, Resurrection, Eyes

So you are mistaken, resurrection is the wrong choice, as it increments the deadend counter.
The correct response is either Death or Nothing depending on the type of playthrough.

 

[Dark479]

You've got it wrong:


So you are mistaken, resurrection is the wrong choice, as it increments the deadend counter.
The correct response is either Death or Nothing depending on the type of playthrough.

Resurrection is literally the recommended answer by the Multi-Mod and I can 1000% confirm that A human, resurrection, a heart do not lead to a dead end...not unless you choose despair as the 4th word. The optimal best 4 words to choose are the three I mentioned plus hope as the 4th.

You are focusing on all of the wrong information and are making wrong assumptions too. Ressurection is a correct answer, not a trigger to a dead end...the only way to get a dead end is if you screw something else up.

 

[CrazyofHentai]

How do we get stronger?
I don't think we're close to our 4th Evo, in all honesty, I believe it could be a very long time yet, and this is where our greatest problem lies, we need to get stronger, much stronger. After months in the monster world it's very possible that the world will be at war or partially destroyed, and even if we train the Memory Trait to the max, I doubt it will be enough

So how can we get even stronger?

 

[Gtdead]

Resurrection is literally the recommended answer by the Multi-Mod and I can 1000% confirm that A human, resurrection, a heart do not lead to a dead end...not unless you choose despair as the 4th word. The optimal best 4 words to choose are the three I mentioned plus hope as the 4th.

The multimod is wrong and this works only because the dev gives you leeway to make 2 errors
The memoryascend variable leads to the deadend. If you increment it enough times you lose.

My answer comes directly from the script and the conditionals.
The optimal choices are Human, Death, Heart or Weapon (exact same effect), Hope or Hate (+5P/1S or +10P) for low corruption
and Nothing, Nothing, Nothing, Nothing (+3S/13C) for high corruption

 

[Sayajin2205]

In my playthrough atleast I did resurrection,human,love and hope aswell and only died when I choose the the despair option if I remember correctly mc tries to evolve and cole plunges his blade into MC's heart and mc dies.

 

[Dark479]

The multimod is wrong.

I can literally tell you it's not...I have done this answer combination at least 5 times and never got a dead end...not once.

 

[Sayajin2205]

I can literally tell you it's not...I have done this answer combination at least 5 times and never got a dead end...not once.

He is rn talking about the optimal combo not the deadend.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

How do we get stronger?
I don't think we're close to our 4th Evo, in all honesty, I believe it could be a very long time yet, and this is where our greatest problem lies, we need to get stronger, much stronger. After months in the monster world it's very possible that the world will be at war or partially destroyed, and even if we train the Memory Trait to the max, I doubt it will be enough

So how can we get even stronger?

I'm hoping the MC finally gets to work on scanning monsters to use their anatomy in his transformations. Aside from the monster heart he absorbed, he hasn't done any of that since the idea was raised. He's in a world where all animal life is monsters, maybe he'll run into something worth using.

 

[Sayajin2205]

I'm hoping the MC finally gets to work on scanning monsters to use their anatomy in his transformations. Aside from the monster heart he absorbed, he hasn't done any of that since the idea was raised. He's in a world where all animal life is monsters, maybe he'll run into something worth using.

Yeah optimising his base body like Xanthe said with the best of other creatures might be the way before evolution.

 

[CrazyofHentai]

I'm hoping the MC finally gets to work on scanning monsters to use their anatomy in his transformations. Aside from the monster heart he absorbed, he hasn't done any of that since the idea was raised. He's in a world where all animal life is monsters, maybe he'll run into something worth using.

I think about it too. Using a weapon or wearing some armor seems completely out of the question, I don't see how using either of those two could help us. Using monster bodies, strengthening us with their flesh seems like the best option, but I feel that something else is missing

 

[Gtdead]

I can literally tell you it's not...I have done this answer combination at least 5 times and never got a dead end...not once.

Human, Death, Heart
Human, Death, Weapon
Human, Evolution, Heart
Human, Evolution, Weapon
Monster, Death, Heart
Monster, Death, Weapon
Human, Nothing, Nothing
Life, Death, Eyes

All of these are valid combinations that pass the check and this list isn't exhaustive. Just don't pick despair because it leads to deadend41
The reason they pass is because all of them have less than 3 memoryascend and at least 1 memorysucceed.
So either reread what I wrote and try to understand it, check the script yourself, or drop it. You are wrong.

 

[Dark479]

Human, Death, Heart
Human, Death, Weapon
Human, Evolution, Heart
Human, Evolution, Weapon
Monster, Death, Heart
Monster, Death, Weapon
Human, Nothing, Nothing
Life, Death, Eyes

All of these are valid combinations that pass the check and this list isn't exhaustive. Just don't pick despair because it leads to deadend41
The reason they pass is because all of them have less than 3 memoryascend and at least 1 memorysucceed.
So either reread what I wrote and try to understand it, check the script yourself, or drop it. You are wrong.

Well regardless of anything else there is a clear and obvious intervention by the 12 apostles at that point...they are the ones asking the questions which we answer. So even if you want to say it's not a resurrection(which it seems pretty clear to me that it is), they clearly help the MC recover and fight.

 

[Gtdead]

Well regardless of anything else there is a clear and obvious intervention by the 12 apostles at that point...they are the ones asking the questions which we answer. So even if you want to say it's not a resurrection(which it seems pretty clear to me that it is), they clearly help the MC recover and fight.

No, all they do is force him to evolve and monsterfy as per dead end 41. Cole kills him before that happens.

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[Ddlc]

Human, Death, Heart
Human, Death, Weapon
Human, Evolution, Heart
Human, Evolution, Weapon
Monster, Death, Heart
Monster, Death, Weapon
Human, Nothing, Nothing
Life, Death, Eyes

All of these are valid combinations that pass the check and this list isn't exhaustive. Just don't pick despair because it leads to deadend41
The reason they pass is because all of them have less than 3 memoryascend and at least 1 memorysucceed.
So either reread what I wrote and try to understand it, check the script yourself, or drop it. You are wrong.

I made it with human, evolution, heart and hope, so it's clear that plenty choices avoid a dead end, though i had no idea evolution was a bad answer, it sounded like the right one at the time to me.

 

[Gtdead]

I made it with human, evolution, heart and hope, so it's clear that plenty choices avoid a dead end, though i had no idea evolution was a bad answer, it sounded like the right one at the time to me.

Yes, because:
Human +1
Evolution -1
Heart +1

Total of +1 memorysucceed, which is enough to pass the check.
It would also work with Weapon for the same reason, but Eyes or Nothing lead to deadend41

 

[Dark479]

No, all they do is force him to evolve and monsterfy as per dead end 41. Cole kills him before that happens.

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They don't force anything...it's a possible outcome to giving the wrong answers but they clearly do not force it...in fact they literally help as you can get more power and/or skill from them if you don't screw up the answers. But the MC faced the 12 apostles each and got 10 power from each to help him escape the dream and they help once again against Cole.

 

[Dark479]

Because of how op power twin type is, it's the only way I see mc going to gain an edge over currently high-ranking monstrous power of all those at the top and once again I also speculate this because of his female side, he was also kind of feminine looking before his transformation. Who know may be he get to meet one of the kings of the monster world and they grant him a boon of sort in the next update.

I don't really think anything of the female form of the MC...he's a shapeshifter, can have any form. I don't think that it's indicative of having a twin. If the MC has anything remotely close to something like a twin then it was either absorbed before birth to be revealed later(though I doubt it), or it's Charlie. Though Charlie is 2 years younger than the MC so probably not birth twin...not unless there is some kind of time distortion shenanigans at play. But I think Charlie will be very important to the MC's growth at some point. Not sure if he'll end up having to fight her and absorbs her or if they'll be forced to work together by some circumstances or what but I think something big will happen between Charlie and the MC.

 

[Gtdead]

They don't force anything...it's a possible outcome to giving the wrong answers but they clearly do not force it...in fact they literally help as you can get more power and/or skill from them if you don't screw up the answers. But the MC face the 12 apostles each and got 10 power from each to help him escape the dream and they help once again against Cole.

I'm not sure where you are getting these. The Apostles didn't give anything to MC. He took their memories by himself, by finding connections through those dreams. And just like Syla said, by absorbing high quality memories he increases his power. These same memories are so overwhelming that when he lost control of his emotions after seeing Liz dead, he almost died.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree. There's not even a single point of agreement between us on this matter.