This was a patreon poll for higher tier subscribers. I think i talked about the result when I discussed update timelines maybe around a week ago.
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But both monsters can be the "main" parent of the MC, not everyone went with the shape shifter one, and I highly doubt that the author will have separate paths in the story to accomodate that so getting stronger mind powers make sense too. I mean that's the main point that makes the MC special, he inherited traits from 2 monsters at the same time instead of just one. Not saying that he will get something on Jake's level whose specialty is mind control, but reading people's minds without touching them doesn't sound like a stretch, and there could always be drawbacks to keep the MC from abusing it.
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There is no difference between the two monsters and weirdworld has already said that it has no effect on the story.
A different scene is all you get.
It fascinates me how many people associate his ability to copy information into his core with some kind of mind bending ability. MC has no mental powers. If he touches an animal, he can copy its DNA and store it in his core (which is in his head most of the time). He can then use certain parts of this DNA and incorporate them into his body. You could say that in order to create something, he first needs to get a template to know how the given thing is structured.
If he touches a human, he won't gain much because he already knows how the human body works. In theory, he doesn't need to touch someone in order to imitate the appearance of a person (his original female form is proof of that), but if he does, the result is much better and more believable. However, the brain is too complex for him (as I said, some things are beyond the MC's mental capacity) and therefore a single touch is not enough for him to copy its contents. The best he can do is read current thoughts. If he wanted a copy of the contents of the entire brain, he would have to devour it, but that would (obviously) kill that person. I think at lvl 3 the MC could get an ability that would allow him to read a person's memory by touch, not only current thoughts, but that's about it.
The way I see it, what makes MC special is the ability to make perfect copies. That's why Ella told you (one of the bad endings when she kills you if you tell her what you can do) that you were perfect right from the beginning. Other shapeshifters must imagine how they would like to look and then adapt their body. Such a shapeshifter can imagine a giant scorpion stinger, fill it with muscle mass, and then use it relatively effectively. However, there will be no poison. Their copies are only second-rate imitations. The fact that the MC needs to collect manuals first made him weaker in the beginning, but the bigger his database, the stronger he is, as he can combine these manuals with each other to create crazy original creations. Something like his "Mantis Shrimp Punch" is completely beyond the capabilities of normal shapeshifters.
I think you have some things off.
1. WW has said there's no effect on the story for what monster you pick, but not that they're identical. They are explicitly two different beings with different names, numbers, and powers, one of them being the 3rd (Body) and the other being the 4th (Memory) (I might have these backwards, but fuck it). Like, I doubt two of the remaining 6 apostles would just be the same thing.
2. MC can read memories by touch, he does it a lot. He does it when training, and during interrogations. He regularly pulls up non surface thoughts, when he has time to do it, such as with Deryl and kind of Demi. (He also needs to do it to make perfect copies of even normal humans. He can't copy Deryl, even though he spent a big chunk of his life growing up with him, until he touches him after getting his powers.)
1. WW has said there's no effect on the story for what monster you pick, but not that they're identical. They are explicitly two different beings with different names, numbers, and powers, one of them being the 3rd (Body) and the other being the 4th (Memory) (I might have these backwards, but fuck it). Like, I doubt two of the remaining 6 apostles would just be the same thing.
2. MC can read memories by touch, he does it a lot. He does it when training, and during interrogations. He regularly pulls up non surface thoughts, when he has time to do it, such as with Deryl and kind of Demi. (He also needs to do it to make perfect copies of even normal humans. He can't copy Deryl, even though he spent a big chunk of his life growing up with him, until he touches him after getting his powers.)
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I do wonder at some point much like how the MC can copy the DNA of a human or other animal on Earth if he were to reach a higher level could he also start trying to copy the DNA of monsters?
With that in mind, I wonder why the MC hasn't thought about copying the DNA of dinosaurs and other animals that are extinct that are far more powerful and deadly compared to modern animals (I'm sure that's been asked before of course tho).
With that in mind, I wonder why the MC hasn't thought about copying the DNA of dinosaurs and other animals that are extinct that are far more powerful and deadly compared to modern animals (I'm sure that's been asked before of course tho).
Long story short.
She will probably be back if you ate her
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For me, it's the opposite. The Dark Glowing Eye Monster was there for the 4th. My thoughts on it is it's the Dark God/King lesser form. It's the main part that remained after the Numbered split from it. To regain it's full power, it most likely needs to consume the Numbered as they represent "parts" of itself and the power it originally owned. It only seems to manifest when a Numbered is involved, as you can see from the 4th and Valravn popping a boner when the 2nd arrived.
Valravn statements are really important for this because he's assumed to be a spawn of said monster. Him calling Mommy "The Memory" and the 3rd "The Body" seem to line up with the thinking. He also sees the 2nd as his enermy and that his prayers can now be answered as he flys out looking for his king(?) after the 2nd arrived.
This also leads to one of the reasons why the Numbered don't stay on this plane for too long. The Dark Monster might only be able to reach them while they're not in their own plane/realm. You might be wondering why it didn't attack them in the beginning then? The simple answer is that the 3rd and 4th together would be too much for it, currently. When Mommy stayed for too long, by herself, it ate her. When the 2nd manifested, Valravn quickly left to look around because the 2nd wouldn't stay for long. This indicates that his king, if it's the Dark Monster, is only interested in showing up when it's a Numbered.
There's also Xanthe. He hints that Tiffany's monster may have been one of the 12 Numbered(7th - 12th) and stated that said monster corpse was a "part" of a greater monster originally, made from it's own body. Which would circle back to the Numbered's name actually representing the part that split from the monster. If Tiff's monster is a deceased numbered.
Of the current Numbered, we know that:
The 1st represents "The Authority"
The 2nd represents "The Power"(?)
The 3rd represents "The Body"
The 4th represents "The Memory"
From all of this, we can then draw the conclusion that it wasn't there for the MC but for the 4th, which it consumed. It only killed the MC, and likely Ella, because they're direct spawns of the 3rd and 4th. If we follow this line of thinking then the MC was just unlucky to be there. If it wanted the MC, specifically, it had ample opportunities to get him over the course of the game. The 4th though? She rarely appears and when she did, alone, it came for her. Of these 2, only one of them are hard to get and they so happened to kill and consume that one immediately.
As for the MC's power. It is minuscule compared to this Dark Monster's assumed original power. Especially so when you realize that it had both the 3rd and 4th's power as it's own originally. Even the MC's hypothetical full potential wouldn't hold a candle to a being that all of monster powers originated from in the first place.
That's it, that's the theory, for the most part. There's more to it but I just put the more straightforward stuff down. It's mostly from all of the info currently in the game. If you're curious about where these are all stated at, I'll list them for you here:
- The Dead End with Ella and the 4th for the Dark Monster appearance, obviously. Though you can see it in the MC's dream after he reached lvl 2. A detail that's actually interesting because he never saw it and it scared him more than the other monsters.
- For the Xanthe's part, it's when Tiff gets turned into a Superhuman.
- Most of Valravn scenes have info so I'd suggest just reading all of them. That includes the flashback during the MC's fight where you see Valravn getting turned by the Dark Monster(notice it's hand is the same that killed the 4th on that dead end).
- For the Numbered's naming, you'll have to do a playthrough for the 3rd to see Valravn calling it "The Body" and learning that it struggled with the MC at the beginning. You'll also learn that Ella is a spawn of it.
- For the 1st being called "The Authority", you'll see that after Ella and Jake escape HERO Base. I also advise seeing Jake's death scene as you get to see the 1st in it's plane before the 3rd and 4th attack it.
Also, I can't stress this enough. It's just a theory. It's all still a mystery, especially for this Numbered stuff. I do believe Valravn's card may have the important pieces of information that could bring us closer to the truth though. If we ever get that here or it's told in game, we should be closer to the answer.
You're right about the 3rd and 4th. The Dev has already shown the difference between the 2 in game. Even the opening at the start shows a clear difference. A difference that gets expanded on later depending on who you chose. Only way you wouldn't notice these 2 are different being is if you only did one playthrough.
If you chose the 3rd, who's called "The Body", it struggles to read through the MC's memories and decides to use it's tentacles on his brain directly.
If you chose Mommy 4th, who's called "The Memory", she looks through the MC's everything without touching him at all. A detail the MC notes later, by the way.
At most, the 3rd and 4th are twins, beings that came into existence at the same time together. Maybe even originally one singular being that split again after the original split. They share the same abilities but it's clear by their name and what they've shown, that they specialize in their fields.
That ends my wall of text, for today.
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Yes, this is the correct and logical direction for MC powers to evolve
I guess the only reason he can't do it yet is a lack of power and experiences, but he should already have the potential to do it now. After all, it has been said that the DNA of superhumans is much more advanced than the DNA of humans. If this is true, then the monster's DNA must be at an even higher level. So the monster's DNA might be too complex for the MC, or simply his own cellular form is not strong enough to use such DNA at all. But this problem can be solved through experience and practice, or by gaining more pure power, which is expected at the next level of evolution. But this isn't a new ability, it's just an improvement on one of his existing ones. It is hard to guess if he will reach a sufficient level of power already at level 3 or level 5.
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Uohhhhhhhhh! !! !! The 4th erotic !!!!!! Minyak's belly and chest !!!!!! Valravn's Medieval Bird Boy Pussy !!!!! Sooo Erotic …
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Looks like the update is on track. WW figured it will be released somewhere between late april - early may so 2-3 weeks before all you freaks can get more food for your speculations.
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Imma be honest fam, your previous pfp was way more in-line with those kinds of posts
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Lol the wait. At last we will know why the little Rat sold us out, michael power, If alice lvls up or bite the bullet, if we go lvl3 or W.W keeps being a tease. Maybe spank redhead boyband reject. And Many more cus so much shit at the same time XD
He can read memories though, and he can transform other people physically, and he has both traits from both numbered, something that's stated in the actual game. I don't see how it wouldn't then also be logical that he can influence memories as well the further along he gets, especially seeing as how he can already somewhat influence them by breaking mindblocks/jakes commands. Doesn't that already fall under the mind bending umbrella?
I agree with most of it, it just feels very much like the MC in combination with being next to The Memory made their presence strong enough that it was felt, not because the MC is powerful in himself, but because of his sheer potential, my headcanon is that the same thing would've happened if The Body showed up in the flesh. The way it kills you as well, showing the glowing opal like eye seems unnecessary if it was just getting rid of him just by the by. The big bad requiring all of the numbered to become whole again is something I assumed immediately I started seeing the numbered names so I'm with you on that one.
Another headcanon I have is that the reason he was capable of receiving both traits in the first place is either because the opposing trait was lying dormant in him since he got his eye scars, or just that whatever happened to him to cause the eye scars makes him able to receive both. There has to be some significance of the communication he gets when he evolves showing up as a visage of his right eye with the scars beyond just him personifying the scar as his inner monster. Well, maybe not, but it seems unlikely and a bit unsatisfying of a reason to me. The fact that the eye/scar mirrors the colors of number 3 and 4 lends credence to there being something more going on as well in my opinion.
Obviously we'll have to wait to see until we get any concrete answers, I'm just surprised I've managed to get this much thinking/speculating out of a porn game and reading long speculation posts (yours stand out DrakoGhoul) is great fun.
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To be specific, if my memory isn't already failing me, it's stated ingame that the MC has "the influence of both the Body and the Memory". So it seems that, while being the spawn of one more than the other, the one not chosen still decided to give some power to their partner's spawn.
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Yes. I really want The Moon to be blown up in this update for some reason. Got my fingers crossed.
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day97.rpy
Line 1738, you jump to an nonexistent label whisktiff.
if virgintiff == True:
jump whisktiff
else:
jump nowhisktiff
day97.rpy
Line 1738, you jump to an nonexistent label whisktiff.
if virgintiff == True:
jump whisktiff
else:
jump nowhisktiff
Very much outright stated by Ella that he has both traits.
Heh, he would become way too OP if he started copying other monsters abilities... I don't think that will become a plot point in the story or we would have seen at least a glimpse of this by now, with the MC trying to but failing to mimick other monsters powers.
Good point, but perhaps he can't do it from a fossil because it's DNA too degraded or something along those lines? But yeah it would be awesome to use dinosaur parts on top of what we have now.