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Mc and Ella need to fuse to bring eye boy back
That's not needed, he needs to eat all other Apostles spawn... The eye is the father of the 3rd and 4th so no matter which one is your parent (could be the same as Ella's) his Line is always fully covered by him merging with you. ;)

Eidt : also i wouldn't really trust him, basically it seems to be his way of being able to permanently enter our world, he'll probably will just take your body and with that he has access to all Apostle "DNA" which means he's the only one out of the six (arbiters?) that has the complete "genepool"...
 
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Last Misc scene is from Tiffany's wedding, you have to agree to have sex with her.

You say you got all the new scenes so could you help me by telling me how to get the one under "weird" second page all the way down to the right? That's the only one I couldn't get.
That's the Liz ntr scene, you need to have done her ntr route, and presumably nuked the fat fuck that did it to her, then you see it at the bonfire night.

Re-reading his dialogue he says things like
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also Mc says
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My conclusion is Deus power allows him to both see things through the timeline and travel through it to adjust his actions to achieve his goals but also
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I feel like he isn't a true time traveller in the sense that he can't go back in time to before he was born/monsterfied, but he is capable of "travelling"/focusing on specific points within that time. Maybe even a certain kind of causality twisting is part of his power set, him being able to attack you in the past, and the wounds directly manifesting on current you, maybe that's just WW visually showing that you're going to die, but it could also be that in essence he's attacking the current you directly, but through the old you, or he anchored current you to old you, hence your powers being cut off. Either way I really enjoy it whenever he shows up because he's an enigma, even more so than Ella imo.
 

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The eye declared itself as the origin of everything, that is to say, the one that exists prior to and superior to the apostles and all others. Therefore, the monster acknowledged its authority.

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Here he refers to the fact that on Earth there is a girl whom he needs in order to be complete. And who do we know possesses an even greater potential than ours? That's right, Emily... she is the missing piece for the eye to be whole. I can even speculate that she harbors the mysterious creature of death, "too strong too soon," within her. Screenshot_20230518-153055.png Screenshot_20230518-152606.png
 

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The eye declared itself as the origin of everything, that is to say, the one that exists prior to and superior to the apostles and all others. Therefore, the monster acknowledged its authority.

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Here he refers to the fact that on Earth there is a girl whom he needs in order to be complete. And who do we know possesses an even greater potential than ours? That's right, Emily... she is the missing piece for the eye to be whole. I can even speculate that she harbors the mysterious creature of death, "too strong too soon," within her. View attachment 2631836 View attachment 2631843
Clearly the one we're searching for is shadow :KEK:.
Personally I don't think it's Emily, but it is possible it could be her, more points towards it being Ella, or else we would've never likely showed up at her fight, since we clearly don't give a shit about anything else but becoming complete. It's also possible that Ella just knows where said person is, and it could very well be our human Mom for all we know, who knows if she's actually dead or just been in hiding or sleeping/coma or whatever. Probably just Ella though, since she feels a bit like both the main/true love interest and an antagonist at the same time.
 

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Let me check it out and see what I can find.




Got a fifth that could be one.


Are these the right ones?
Beautiful bastard~
 
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Damn, this is the king of updates. It's huge, the content is amazing, it expands the lore. Congratulations are in order WW, keep doing what you do.

Some thoughts (wall of text, you've been warned)
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I'm looking forward to more interactions with Nyx for sure, and seeing more Ella. I just want to become strong enough that I can just keep her as a pet or something since she seems to be hinting at that being what she wants in the end. As long as we're strong enough she'll be loyal and obedient, it's telling that she's none of that to beings/people who are quite clearly stronger than her in raw power however.

Beautiful bastard~
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Clearly the one we're searching for is shadow :KEK:.
Personally I don't think it's Emily, but it is possible it could be her, more points towards it being Ella, or else we would've never likely showed up at her fight, since we clearly don't give a shit about anything else but becoming complete. It's also possible that Ella just knows where said person is, and it could very well be our human Mom for all we know, who knows if she's actually dead or just been in hiding or sleeping/coma or whatever. Probably just Ella though, since she feels a bit like both the main/true love interest and an antagonist at the same time.
it can't be Ella, they were in another dimension, Nico teleports him back to earth and he says that he guided her to that place to find the girl who is key, that is on earth
why do you think it is repeated that she has the greatest potential?, I strongly believe that it is her
 
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it can't be Ella, they were in another dimension, Nico teleports him back to earth and he says that he guided her to that place to find the girl who is key, that is on earth
It says specifically "towards the breach, where that girl waits for me." I take breach to mean the breach into the other dimension, but it is possible that it's another breach that leads somewhere else. Another thing that's interesting is that you seem to be more at home in the vacuum of space, than in the atmosphere of a planet, eldritch cosmic horror gods ftw. Ella also seems to be genuinely surprised and sad to see our fate, emotions she's shown for literally no one else in the game ever.
 

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It says specifically "towards the breach, where that girl waits for me." I take breach to mean the breach into the other dimension, but it is possible that it's another breach that leads somewhere else. Another thing that's interesting is that you seem to be more at home in the vacuum of space, than in the atmosphere of a planet, eldritch cosmic horror gods ftw. Ella also seems to be genuinely surprised and sad to see our fate, emotions she's shown for literally no one else in the game ever.
that surprised me too, either she cares a lot about us, which I believe is not the case, or she knew exactly what happened and knows the mister eye, and at that moment understood that we were what she was looking for, but she didn't want that the lord eye controlled us that way, hence the sadness, even more so for being so early and possibly not with full power
 
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that surprised me too, either she cares a lot about us, which I believe is not the case, or she knew exactly what happened and knows the mister eye, and at that moment understood that we were what she was looking for, but she didn't want that the lord eye controlled us that way, hence the sadness, even more so for being so early and possibly not with full power
I think it's a bit of both personally, she is very ruthless and cruel, but she also has moments of heartfelt lucidity, like when we first meet her in the park and she's talking about how she can't get a meaningful connection. Current headcanon theory is that her ultimate goal is to get MC/someone to consume/become the eye being, but also remain themselves in a way, so that she can have someone that truly understands her because her whole mind and personality will be laid bare to them. Her gathering people with very strong connections to their apostles and trying to groom them into becoming strong could be to gather a piece of all apostles to then sacrifice to that entity.
 

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that surprised me too, either she cares a lot about us, which I believe is not the case, or she knew exactly what happened and knows the mister eye, and at that moment understood that we were what she was looking for, but she didn't want that the lord eye controlled us that way, hence the sadness, even more so for being so early and possibly not with full power
Personally i believe Ella really does like Mc, they had multiple interactions where she gives that vibe, since their conversation at the park before or after the mindfuck/catgirl scene i feel that she truly cares about him, even more now with the memories he gets from her apartment.
I do believe we will have the chance to end her but also to be with her in the end.

I think it's a bit of both personally, she is very ruthless and cruel, but she also has moments of heartfelt lucidity, like when we first meet her in the park and she's talking about how she can't get a meaningful connection. Current headcanon theory is that her ultimate goal is to get MC/someone to consume/become the eye being, but also remain themselves in a way, so that she can have someone that truly understands her because her whole mind and personality will be laid bare to them. Her gathering people with very strong connections to their apostles and trying to groom them into becoming strong could be to gather a piece of all apostles to then sacrifice to that entity.
I agree, i think she hopes someone is capable of tanking eye boy's power whitout losing their own mind, that's why she was so dissapointed seeing Mc failing.
 

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Hey all, I've got the skill, I know power doesn't matter, but mines at 125, and I've killed Oscar's red light monster, but Laurie still dies, am I missing something? I've been trying to follow what everyone has been saying.
 

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Hey all, I've got the skill, I know power doesn't matter, but mines at 125, and I've killed Oscar's red light monster, but Laurie still dies, am I missing something? I've been trying to follow what everyone has been saying.
you need to go right, hesitate when fighting deryl and break the sword when fighting super deryl and it should work
 
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We've made it this far, and I feel like it's only 30% of the story. There are SO many mysteries. Who is Deus? Their origin, powers, and objectives. What are Ella's objectives? What are the apostles' objectives? I don't think it's just instinct like that monster said. Who is the Eye? The protagonist's past, Ella's past when she disappeared from school and came back different. What are Ella's real powers? Who is the mysterious creature of the death too strong, too soon? Who is the shookeeper? What are Charlie's objectives? Who is her brother? What is the future of this world?

And many more. I felt that way while watching Attack on Titan. Nothing beats a great mystery.
 

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Oh there is one more that sounds like Linkin Park played during the crux of the Deryl fights I believe



If it's not any of these, tell me when exactly it starts playing so I can look it up in the script directly, there's loads of music changes during that fight, including the ones during alices/michaels/derylvsdel own things.

We've made it this far, and I feel like it's only 30% of the story. There are SO many mysteries. Who is Deus? Their origin, powers, and objectives. What are Ella's objectives? What are the apostles' objectives? I don't think it's just instinct like that monster said. Who is the Eye? The protagonist's past, Ella's past when she disappeared from school and came back different. What are Ella's real powers? Who is the mysterious creature of the death too strong, too soon? Who is the shookeeper? What are Charlie's objectives? Who is her brother? What is the future of this world?

And many more. I felt that way while watching Attack on Titan. Nothing beats a great mystery.
The death too strong too soon one should be the Apostle Eater, who's some extradimensional entity that, as its name implies, feeds on apostles and potentially stronger beings.

Charlies objectives seem to just be to save her brother from HERO, and maybe trying to help him regain some humanity/intellect, who knows. It's heavily implied the only reason she's even with Ella is because Ella knows where Oscar is.
 

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Hey all, I've got the skill, I know power doesn't matter, but mines at 125, and I've killed Oscar's red light monster, but Laurie still dies, am I missing something? I've been trying to follow what everyone has been saying.
You need 1 point of derylwin to beat Hydra Deryl. Beating the red light monster and not hesitating are the only ways to get them. So you either can sleep with mommy and not hesistate against Hydra Deryl, or beat the red light monster and hesitate against Hydra Deryl to win the fight.

After Deryl completes his form, you need to gather 3 points of derylwin to save Laurie. One comes from having 28+ skill, another comes from instantly destroying the sword, and the last comes only if you have hesitated when attacking Deryl.

So the only way to get it, in order, is Right, Hesitate,| At this point derylwin points get reset |, (Automatic 28 skill check), Destroy the Sword, (Automatic Hesitate Point).

Explained it thoroughly since people have trouble with it.
 
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