After this update, my perspective on memory powers has shifted, especially after observing the fight between Indra and Syla. It makes me wonder if Syla can tap into the collective mind. Could the MC (main character) do the same, perhaps after evolving to level 4 or training his memory powers? I remember reading in Hero's library about artifacts that corrupt monsters, making them stronger, and that they shared a collective mind. The MC might be able to use this somehow. Also, we still don't know why S.I.N is after the artifacts, and there's still the mystery of the stone fingers the MC found in the game, which remains unresolved."
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- Jul 13, 2018
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I didn't forget. He's either 6th or 7th for me. Behind Rebis or above him. Killing other Chosen doesn't really give much details without knowing exactly which ones they killed beyond Syla and previous 3rd Chosen. It's like saying Level 4 Ella is stronger than Val when he didn't have his heart and couldn't use his full powers. Context is needed. We saw Indra kill Syla. Valravn, we haven't saw anything yet,
Not to mention, Indra is also an Avatar of the 2nd. There's no telling how powerful he really is or his weapons.
Thought for a while that this will become an issue with Michael later. If it's revealed that using the serum puts a ceiling on your potential he's not going to be a happy camper
Considering, it's only been a month, since Evander and Devana, were kidnapped and their lives were completely changed, is it possible that Evander is still processing the changes? That, unlike his sister he has yet to fully come to terms with how he should feel about it, and how he should live his life going forward? Hence his silence, his lack of dialogue in this strange new world full of strange people.
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- Jul 13, 2018
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Who said I was denying anything? Just because I don't rank Valravn in my top 5 or highly like you doesn't mean I'm denying him of his statements. Your thoughts are inline with my own but you're going in the wrong direction with it.
I know Valravn is a Chosen of the 7th. I know he's killed 3 Chosen just like Indra. My point was, we don't know how he went about it and who he killed beyond the 3rd Apostle's Chosen. Valravn power negation isn't the end all be all. If it was, there would be no Valravn. I'm also pretty sure Indra, being millions of years older than him, knows full and well how to counter his power with weapons.
I have no reason to downplay Indra, who didn't show anything beyond his base abilities that caused full power Syla to struggle. I didn't forget anything about Valravn. Those things just doesn't change his ranking for me until I actually have a reason to change it. Like I said with the Ella part. We don't know how he killed the other Chosen. Ella herself could've killed Valravn and without knowing any context, we could've assumed she was one of the strongest Chosen. Context changed that and we learned he was weakened via losing his heart.
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There is definitely, 100%, nothing inherently wrong with the serum. It's literally just the method of overexposure to monster material which the MC underwent to reach level 3.
The only problem with the serum is that to reach level 5, you're supposed to fulfill certain prerequisites. There's three possible explanations for the difference in power between the big three and the other level 5s.
1) Fulfilling those prerequisites gives you power or extra abilities, like Ella's eyes.
2) Evolving to level 5 without fulfilling those prerequisites gives you a flawed evolution.
3) There's something extraordinary about Henri, Bernhardt, and Malik.
Whatever the case, if the big three used the serum to reach level 5 (assuming they had fulfilled the prerequisites if those are the reason for their power), they would just as powerful as they are currently.
- May 4, 2019
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I only have a couple additions to this for consideration.
Both Valravn and Indra hunt other Chosen. Neither shy away from a fight. Valravn explicitly does not fear Indra since he offered to protect Syla from him. Logic dictates that they would be among the first pairings to clash in combat, yet both still live. Either they are too evenly matched to bother and have decided to leave each other for last as some highlander style duel, or the 7th and 2nd are in cahoots and have explicitly forbidden them to fight for now and kill everyone else first.
Don't know for sure what's going on there but these 2 and Aglae are up there high in power levels. Will be cool to see them go all out against some shmucks.
So, it's been a while since I've first seen this.
And after ruining both my last weekend, my sleep schedule and my performance at work for the past days, I've come back to consider why I didn't try this sooner.
Until I looked through the thread and remembered.
You are all a bunch of fucking weirdos at the best of times. Even considering where we are.
With that out of the way, this has been an incredible ride and I am impressed with WW's skills with the simplest and most important technique for telling stories: foreshadowing. Up until now almost everything that happens in the game up to this point can basically be inferred from the first arc if you're attentive enough.
Still, if I picked this up during the dreamworld cliffhanger, I likely wouldn't have pushed through afterwards. Cole20.jpg hit way too damn hard.
As a closing statement: I absolutely want Steven's side story. A road trip of two veterans, one a police man and one shady as fuck, and an overpowered fairy in a world of monsters and superhumans to sort shit out for their superpowered kids just sounded increasingly hilarious ever since the fairy turned out to be a distant but very fussy parent to Alice.
And after ruining both my last weekend, my sleep schedule and my performance at work for the past days, I've come back to consider why I didn't try this sooner.
Until I looked through the thread and remembered.
You are all a bunch of fucking weirdos at the best of times. Even considering where we are.
With that out of the way, this has been an incredible ride and I am impressed with WW's skills with the simplest and most important technique for telling stories: foreshadowing. Up until now almost everything that happens in the game up to this point can basically be inferred from the first arc if you're attentive enough.
Still, if I picked this up during the dreamworld cliffhanger, I likely wouldn't have pushed through afterwards. Cole20.jpg hit way too damn hard.
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As a closing statement: I absolutely want Steven's side story. A road trip of two veterans, one a police man and one shady as fuck, and an overpowered fairy in a world of monsters and superhumans to sort shit out for their superpowered kids just sounded increasingly hilarious ever since the fairy turned out to be a distant but very fussy parent to Alice.
- Nov 28, 2017
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I think the main requisite for a natural lv5 evolution is to constantly punch above your weigth.
Ella doll kinda referred to it in her conversation with MC after the Cole fight.
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MC is perfectly in line with that prerequisite:
- lv1 MC defeated lv2 Danica
- lv2 MC defeated weakened S class chosen Valravan
- lv2 MC defeated monsterfied lv3 Deryl
- lv3 MC defeated lv4 Cole
Meanwhile Michael defeated Deryl's chimera while at lv1 which would probably be categorized as B tier monster.
But more importantly he holds a card that basically nobody else have. Human Michael defeated class C M59 before even becoming a Superhuman. Don't worry about him, he's doing alright.
- May 10, 2017
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It's to early to say that for sure, what the MC went through was a much more organic and fitting evolution, swimming through a sea of flesh and being overwhelmed by memories.
Here's a potential plot twist, he's not given one because if he did, he would know it's made through sacrifice by gaining the memories of the sacrificed, the excuse for why he couldn't have one, was just to avoid him finding out.
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Michael killed C M59 BECAUSE HE IS A FUCKING BEAST.
It would be great if clothing options were added to our character that were consistent with how badass he is, I'm tired of him always wearing the same horrible outfit. 
This is a compelling idea but almost certainly not true. WW is often very sensible in the world building and especially when it comes to HERO and Bramon Xanthe. They are ruthless but sensible. So this seems... unlikely.
Firstly, it'd make no sense mathematically speaking. Level fives are rare, powerful, and essentially the main thing that HERO as an organization relies on. The rest are canon-fodder, or damn near. Any level five is someone that's managed to reach that level (which is not guaranteed even with the serum. Few reach level four, and the serum can fail. Ella got extremely lucky, it's supposed to be tailored. Which Xanthe tells you when discussing methods of evolution and explaining why yours was kind of a wild card) and has experience with their power and is an asset to the organization (There are only 12 level fives, remember) that's basically priceless.
Sacrificing a level 5 to make a new one (and potentially failing!) is like trading in a winning lottery ticket for another that's PROBABLY going to win and might win less even if it does.
Secondly, exposure to SUPERHUMAN material does not seem to have the same effect. Deryl was fully monsterified at the time.
- Jul 13, 2018
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Maybe, maybe not. I do however still see Indra killing a Level 5 Superhuman of HERO. Don't know which it will be, but I have a feeling one of them getting snuffed out by him.
Though, potentially with Nyx mark on them, I don't think anyone at HERO is getting permanently killed. Well, unless Indra can undo her mark. He does seem to be able to use other abilities like sealing and branding.
You made a few mistakes here.
Level 2 MC didn't beat "Level 3" Deryl. His Monster form was C+, which is within the range of Level 2. Not to mention, it was a tie. His rank can be found in Deryl's profile cards. However, Level 3 MC fought and defeated the B+ Rebis Deryl. Who's rank can also be found in the character cards.
Michael also didn't kill any B Class monsters. Deryl's Chimeras are C Class or Level 2 as well. Also found in his character cards.
As for Ella's statement. I don't think it can be applied to all superhuman evolutions, universally. Especially when there's only 3 Natural Level 5 Superhumans in the game and that list doesn't include her at all. Everyone has their own requirements. If it was straightforward as consistently killing stronger enemies above their level, there would be plenty of natural Level 5 Superhumans.
Reminder, there's 13 known Level 5 Superhumans and only 3 of them are Natural. At most, Ella's statement could mean you gain more power, resistance and durability upon reach Level 5. It being the main requirement doesn't seem right because Malik and Bernhardt didn't have many strong monsters roaming back then. According to Xanthe, the monsters only start popping up frequently recently.
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I was thinking that, but superhumans aren't just numbers, they are individual people, trading people they deem less useful or cannot control. The equivalent of the military trying to kill Superman to empower Captain Atom, they weaken the overall superhero community but are more concerned with what power they control.
But I'm not married to the idea, I am simply thinking of ways to make the drug not be an easy skip for evolution.
Be like me and just autistically sperg it out.
I quite literally did this yesterday and recommend it to a (new) friend. They even found a funny and timely
"I wish superhuman wasn't a porn game so i can recommend it to more people" reddit post looking it up. LOL!
Now time will tell if we will still be friends and hang out, or if I will be receiving a visit from the police.
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- Jan 27, 2021
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It's not too early, and the MC's evolution may have been more organic (metaphorically, obviously), but why should that matter whether its organic or not?
Also, swimming and being overwhelmed by memories is irrelevant. He evolved through an overexposure to monster material (Xanthe confirmed this). It's the same method as the serum.
Why? Evolution isn't supposed to be this difficult trial or something. Anyone can evolve at any time, it's literally down to luck. The difficulty is making sure you're ready for your evolution, so you get the most out of it and don't monsterfy. The serum is a good introduction to erase the luck factor.
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Exactly! The game drills into your head that Evolutions can come at any time once you reach a certain level of power, and that while training and preparation can't trigger an Evolution, it will greatly reduce the chance of your Monsterfying. Bramon also goes extra miles to ensure that those he gives serums to are absolutely ready before he actually lets them use it.