Is that true? The only other in-game example of a human-turned-monster I can think of (whose original monster we know well enough, at least) is Kenny, and his powers didn't seem to differ from that of a Minyak. The only thing I'm unsure about is whether or not a Minyak can raise the dead as oil slaves, but I'm not sure they'd find a lot of use for that regardless.
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I see, but still why bother about his normal days when he became mentally disfunctional and was only some hard hitting brute?
...Because that's not what the discussion was about. I think it started with someone asking about how high Michael's skill would be, which lead to Oscar's skill as a human, etc etc.
Kenny actually was a superhuman. He became a Variant monster after failing his Level 2 evolution due to hitting it before he was ready. He's a bit of a weird case. Firstly because failing an evolution usually just straight up turns you into whatever monster infected you, like Claire Lantos being infected by a Banshee and then becoming one once she messed up her Level 3 evolution. Kenny, however, had a monster parent that was of a female exclusive species. Secondly, because it's left deliberately vague what the true extent of his power was, as he's noted in his character profile to have been absolute ass at actually using it, and thus never actually developed anything unique.
Despite that, he did have some divergence from his monster parent, as his oil was exclusively produced from his hands at Level 1 and as a Variant monster his oil could potentially resurrect and control hundreds of people at once.
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Yeah, Oscar skill when human was 74, when he revived it became 4. My believe was that Michael is even more skilled than that. But you guys also raised a good point, all Michael fights with monsters he had prep time, Oscar fight he had no idea of anything, is a miracle he even managed to kill it.
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Within the last two pages I have seen at least five ways how to write this.
This mystery gets me more than any power or skill level discussions
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I think it's likely that the whole party will get power-ups by the end of this arc.
- The MC. I doubt he's going to evolve to level 4 yet, there's still stuff for him to do at level 3, but he should have his Memory powers boosted a lot following recovering his memories. I can see him pulling out some of the lesser abilities Syla does in the flashback to her fight with Indra, things like making enemies forget their abilities or projecting false memory decoys.
- Deryl. He's got a working Philosopher's Stone and a world full of monsters to shove in it. He should have lots of material to make new tech with. Plus, there's the bit about him thinking that learning monster language from Ella will help him better understand his thoughts from when he was a monster, and give him back some of the insight into monster biology he lost.
- Michael. I can actually see Michael being last to get a major power-up, possibly not until the team is back on Earth. The Hexenring the group has to fight will fulfill the "absorb power from an S-class" step of his evolution ritual, but he believes there are more after that. So he probably won't evolve until after everyone else gets their upgrades.
- Alice. She's got a lot of possible upgrades lined up. Getting her ring working and acquiring a strong new weapon, evolving to level 3 as a result of the stress from taking control of the Hexenring, and even the potential of permanently controlling the Hexenring and essentially getting a weaker version of Nico's powers from it. Alice is going to be a powerhouse.
- Liz and Amber. There's been so much foreshadowing of something going wrong with Liz and Amber's evolution that there's no way they're not going to evolve soon. And with their twin resonance, each of them evolving once should put them both at level 3. Let's just hope whatever side effects they face aren't too bad.
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My thoughts on MC, and Michael.
MC: I doubt he will evolve to his 4th evolution prior to mastering his memory trait until somewhat close to "3rd evolution tier" just because i intuitively feel that the balance would be far too tipped off his genetic monster makeup.
Michael: I, unironically think Michael has the potential to become onpar with MC or even stronger. That sexy grey alien bitch informed us that Authority, the daddy of the 1st and 2nd apostle was the strongest one out of the other kids on his parental generation. So I assume its only logical if someone with a very combat mind that gets some SSJ69420 2nd apostle powers becomes mega broken to the point he will be the one to fight Indra.
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You mean "Order" right? Because authority is first and power is second I doubt Michael has any chance to get order he had low compatibility even for power so I doubt he has enough compatibility for authority so that he can unlock order.As for Indra fight I really wish his end to come by MC's hand even though I don't care much about Syla as a character it's the principle of it to avenge MC's mom.
- Oct 9, 2023
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Just finished my first playthrough of what the game has so far a little bit ago and it is such a good game honestly one of the best I've played I honestly wish to see more of the bird knight I really liked him and wanna see more of him looking forward to more
also MORE LISA RAHHHHHHH ROMANCE OPTION WHEN? YANDERE LISA WHEN RAHHH
also MORE LISA RAHHHHHHH ROMANCE OPTION WHEN? YANDERE LISA WHEN RAHHH
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Lisa is prollly getting fucked by some new level 1 guy or some monster before she kills it lol.She is the barracks bunny the cumrag of hero lol.
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unfortunately real... if only she wasnt...
Btw. does anyone play the "having a bad relationship" route with the dad ?
It would even be reasonable for other mcs considering how the dad really isnt careing much
buuuut i just cant made to believe that our mc here gives much of a shit about that and is more like "cool, got the house for myself" shrugs
It would even be reasonable for other mcs considering how the dad really isnt careing much
buuuut i just cant made to believe that our mc here gives much of a shit about that and is more like "cool, got the house for myself" shrugs 
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If Michael gets as strong as mc. It will be because of his skills and not power. We must understand that mc has two powers and that he has not been using one of them the entire time. Also Michael has a very low synchronization to monster power. I believe weird world gave him and Jake those powers is to nerf the first two apostles spawn
True, though that mostly only applies if MC manages to train both memory and body at the same time and retain the effectiveness of both, otherwise his progression should stay relatively similar, if a bit faster on the power side and slower on the skill side, since he would make no effort to master either, and switch to the other when progression slows down.
Also, where is the sentiment that Michael has low monster/power trait compatibility coming from? This is like the second time I read this in here and I'm pretty sure I didn't miss something this important... Did WW say that in one of his streams?