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Krytax123

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How is that even a debate? She does send Kenny to the party, and does also turn then kill that bob cut jock, yeah they are assholes but that don't mean they gotta die.



So the only consequence she receives for killing people is a cold shoulder from the MC? MC at leasts fights her right after the party or later in the game?
As you keep asking questions youre obviously not this bothered about spoilers.

Ella seems to be a "results no matter how" personality and this isnt a story about rescuing innocent people spider-man style. Ella has a lot of knowledge and her actions and plan seem to be related to the end of mankind somewhat

If you know everyone will die anyway soon, how far are you ready to go to be able to change the outcome? She throws challanges in mcs way too which could easily kill him, but if he isnt able to overcome them, he will die anyway, thats kinda her mindset.

Its very dubious at this point still what her true goals are.

Edit: You can fight her and die
 
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Well as far as i remember Ella didn't send Kenny to the party, she didn't bother to stop him when he did, from my understanding she "left" Mc to take care of him as some sort of test or challenge. The other jock from what i remember was transformed by her and was turning into a monster so this one she did stop.
Now as for your question of "how is that even a debate" i have an example, on the movie Whatchmen a character named Ozymandias detonates a series of bombs across the world in large cities, a horrible and vile action, with the intention to unite USA and USSR against a common enemy and stop a nuclear war, a noble and valid goal.
On Ellas point of view, as she will eventually explain, things will get far worse than now when she reaches her goal, but ultimately the world will be a much better place than the alternative. Since we still don't know what the fuck this even means you will find people both defending and accusing her.

In terms of consequences, she will suffer then, not by Mc's hands , but i believe you will have the chance to stop her eventually. Mc is capable of fighing her (and even putting up a worthy fight) but she is far to powerfull to be defeated by him, for now.
To be devil's advocate for Ella and her "get stronger, anyone, everyone, by any means" mentality: we have in-game examples of civilizations that were annihilated, most likely due to not being strong enough to guarantee their survival in the face of monster's race invasion and their twelve gods.
 

Gehrmann

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Just want to ask, when we meet Bailey and Kenny in dream world, can we also see Jack and Danica if we choose to eat them in the past ?
 

Dominosaur

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I'm inferring from their behavior. Demi never explicitly says that they're genderfluid. But in early scenes they're constantly swapping what gender they tell people they are, and Mia and Jake say that Demi has been doing that for as long as they've known them. "Genderfluid" might not be the best word for it, saying that they're agender might be more accurate since they don't mind which gender they're referred to as, but I think there's some element of it to their identity.
Yeah, this is right. Demi is closer to agender than genderfluid. I like to joke that their pronouns are "I/my/me" since they never really consider their own gender as part of their identity, and mainly use the perception of their gender as a way to tease people, or to leverage it for a joke.
 

CrazyofHentai

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How is that even a debate? She does send Kenny to the party, and does also turn then kill that bob cut jock, yeah they are assholes but that don't mean they gotta die.



So the only consequence she receives for killing people is a cold shoulder from the MC? MC at leasts fights her right after the party or later in the game?
Ella is fucked in the head

Ella is literally this: Fuck if some people are going to die, what matters is achieving my goals

You(Mc) don't like it, you're angry with me? Try to stop me, ah! Sorry I forgot, you can't because you're too weak! Get strong or die, it makes no difference to me.

That's basically it, would she be a villain? Hard to say, if you could save an entire city by sacrificing a few hundred lives? Would you? Of course, Ella may well not care about the world, and all she wants is to save herself and her friends

In the end, I invite you to play and enjoy this beautiful work of art, my brother!

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I mean all avn's are somewhat linear even the ones with the most branching. This is a harem which (as usual) doesnt have thiiiiis much branching but you can define your relationship to Ella as you prefer it.

You can even chose to fight her at poins, you just wont win and the story will end lol. So the only MC which story continues is the smart one who plays by her rules as long as he has to because he's weak and only starts to punish or whatever people when he at least has a tiny chance at winning.

Youre at a point where youre not really aware how far the gap between ella and mc is (he is neither), so he plays it safe.
Yeah there's a lot of branch but that's not the correct way, so you die lmao, at least that's how Weirdworld does it, it's kinda funny in a way but it also makes sense.

There's a lot going on in the Superhuman verse and honestly death is the only answer to those who aren't in the right path, which is kinda a edgy mindset but it's fun to justify it this way. Just like most shonen anime, Mc's a product of fate, with all the danger in the world, and MC is centered in it, every misstep leads to death.
 

DefaultNK

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The discussion of Ella being "evil" or not is also a huge one here, we still don't have the full scope of her plans or even intentions so you will find people arguing both cases.
I'm really surprised that it's a contentious topic considering that, without exaggeration, every single significant bad thing that happens to the protagonist over the course of the story so far falls into one of two camps:
A) Things directly caused by Ella
B) Things indirectly caused by Ella

Yes, she also sometimes acts helpful, and no, we don't know if her ultimate goal is benevolent, but I could say roughly the same thing about Valravn and he was literally on his way to the nearest orphanage planning to eat all of the children when the MC took him down. I can understand liking Ella as a character, thinking the story is more interesting if MC is amicable with her, and/or thinking she's hot, but I don't understand how someone could think she's not evil. Not only is she evil, but she is currently the main villain of the game.
 

KingAgamemnon

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I'm really surprised that it's a contentious topic considering that, without exaggeration, every single significant bad thing that happens to the protagonist over the course of the story so far falls into one of two camps:
A) Things directly caused by Ella
B) Things indirectly caused by Ella
This response is hyperbolic, but now I want to see how it was actually Ella that sent Power's apostle after our mom.
"She was gonna adopt me and save me from this hell but she didn't, so I want you to kill her and maybe also give MC a tragic backstory so he can be my knight in shining armor later on."
 

DefaultNK

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This response is hyperbolic, but now I want to see how it was actually Ella that sent Power's apostle after our mom.
"She was gonna adopt me and save me from this hell but she didn't, so I want you to kill her and maybe also give MC a tragic backstory so he can be my knight in shining armor later on."
My logic is that MC's mom died before the game starts so it doesn't count as haven taken place "over the course of the story." She's also technically not responsible for MC getting captured by Klaus, but only because MC managed to independently pick a fight with him for reasons outside of Ella's meddling. Unless she's the one who told Klaus that MC is weak to electricity which honestly doesn't seem completely out of the realm of possibility. She is, however, directly responsible for making the MC fight Jake, Daryll, and Cole, and for Daryll turning into a monster. She is indirectly responsible for him having to fight Kenny and Valravn, and everything related to S.I.N is her indirectly fault too since her talk Langdon makes it pretty clear that the organization never could have gotten off the ground without her.
 

Nexum768

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Okay I can agree with everything else, but Cole fought us because he wanted to bang Ella and didn't like how she turned him down. I'm not sure I would consider that even indirectly responsible for our fight, its just Cole being his usual dipfuck self.
Yeah hes just an asshole pretty sure its mentioned somewhere ella doesnt like his behavior or some shit
 

Windfaker

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Soo...anyone know If the dev finally made a decision about stop boring updates? lets be honest this game Is a great, but we all can agree last update was a joke, I mean AFTER the Cole fight this game basicly become a "walking simulator on some kinda of nowhere" where gose all the fun from beggining? Im not even speak direct about school times (we miss now like half characters we know from there) but the general vibe? back then the game balance perfect around serve us a good amount of fun, jokes and funny situations but also serve us a spicy fights, plot twist and so on...but now I feel like I dont know...I just feel like those updates are shorter than before? ends In the worst possible time?

I just want MC become for ONCE a true player In this world, no, not invincible one, but respected, strong and so on, yeah he may be now strong, maybe not, but I want the game itself make It clear around the world "This guy Is "someone" we dont want to fuck with" right?

What happen with demi? the fat goth girl? The cheerleaders? I have not seen them In ages, and they was not a "random" characters we fuck once and call it a day....

Im will not pretende I know how to write a story, but even tho, my brain telling me It was not right and If the dev dont take those characters Into acount before, when he start write the story its his mistake, not mine.

Yeah one could say we gonna get "SuperHuman2" so what? me and you will had wait months? years? for playable story? unless you want to play 1 hour each 3 months update and wait another 3 months....

Its not a hate because as I say I really like the game and the arts, I just feel like the dev wants to pack In to much things and In the end he realize he cannot use all this In one game In order to not make this game 1 year longer updates due to the things he intend to pack...

The good thing Is at least I feel mc goot his next evolution next update and maybe then, the game gain some refresh, from boring as fuck last updates (yeah mom fight was epic, but It was our mom not MC}
 
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