Shadenfreud

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Dayum this update was good, both in h-content and plot development imo.
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I also found a bug: Playing Danica's daydream h-scene from the gallery doesn't take you back to the main menu once it ends.

Oh, and by the way: VULKAN LIVES! View attachment 2376827
(I only realised it after playing through this part for the third time, lol)
STOMP STOMP
 
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DrakoGhoul

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So is tiff working with ella or at least using her services?. just a hunch like Del being ultra sus. Like a jojo Dio kissing Erina meme.
I had similar thoughts with the way Tiffany was acting about the wedding stuff this update. She was being real sus with those subtle hints to the MC about something happening that he wouldn't want to miss. I don't think she's on Ella side fully but there might be some temporary partnership.
 

ffive

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She was being real sus with those subtle hints to the MC about something happening that he wouldn't want to miss.
I mean, it was her wedding, kinda normal to act like it's an event that you wouldn't want the only person that comes close to being your friend to miss, and presume they'd want to see it, too. Especially if you banged them before and hope for an encore (or to spark some jealousy)
 
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DrakoGhoul

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I mean, it was her wedding, kinda normal to act like it's an event that you wouldn't want the only person that comes close to being your friend to miss, and presume they'd want to see it, too. Especially if you banged them before and hope for an encore (or to spark some jealousy)
It just felt a bit like it was all calculated by her. I could just be thinking too hard about it but for a monster to suddenly attack and for her to not be shocked at all during it is strange. Also the fact that the monster only targeted the guy and didn't even attempt to go for the more important person when it had the chance, on the first attack.

Again, I could just be looking too deeply into it. Though, I definitely wouldn't put it passed Tiffany. It fits her ambitious character well.
 

ffive

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I could just be thinking too hard about it but for a monster to suddenly attack and for her to not be shocked at all during it is strange. Also the fact that the monster only targeted the guy and didn't even attempt to go for the more important person when it had the chance, on the first attack.
The whole attack thing was pretty weird, i agree. But Tiffany's reaction specifically, i think it's easy to dismiss as her being a cold person in general and not having any real feelings (other than maybe contempt) for the guy that got eaten. Her father shows pretty much the same (lack of) reaction, even though this event damaged his plans. Plus, i think if Tiffany had known about the monster in advance, she wouldn't have let her sister to get so close to the spot of the attack -- her first conscious reaction was to shield Claudia, after all.

Though i guess there's a possibility Tiffany had arranged for "something" to happen to her husband but wasn't briefed on the specifics.
 

RonaldGrand6969

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It's affection gated at 3. Need 3 or more Brianna points to get that scene.



The Brianna prison scene is inconsequential. It only adds flavour text.




  • There's an early Brianna point (+1) you grab by having MC taking off his shirt and flex his muscles during Brianna's R&X campus investigation.
  • If you kill cops during the mall escape, you lose a couple of points (-2), but get an opportunity to regain one (+1) if MC shows remorse during the interview. However, you'll lose another (-1) if you brush off the incident instead. If you spare the cops, however, it's just a direct gain (+1).
  • If you don't kill Jake's men, it's an automatic increase (+1), with no loss if you do kill them. In both cases, you can actually grab a point (+1) if MC claims it wasn't him.
  • If you don't kill people during Minyak attack, it's an automatic gain (+1). If you do kill them, you can make up for it by claiming it wasn't intentional (+1).

As for this update... Tiffany's finally back! Too bad she doesn't have a role in the current assault. It's also a bit frustrating that we have to keep choosing between Tiffany sex scenes and affection points. I want both, goddammit! ;_; Ah, well, still have around 10, which is more than most other characters.



I wish. This dynamic is underappreciated, and as the game diverges more along the Corrupt and Pure paths, I hope WW tones down the arsehole behaviour in the former. Instead, make him more mercenary.

None of the "bad" girls (maybe Tiffany?) would be against a Pure MC, who is largely pragmatic and tries to lean towards benevolence, rather than a completely naive NiceGuy. On the other hand, a surly MC would definitely be a massive turn-off for many of the "nice" girls like Emily and Amber. Especially Brianna. In case Corrupt MC becomes a homicidal maniac (rather than a suave and refined killing machine), it would take quite a lot from their characters if they continue their relationships with him.
I mean, if you think about it, it kinda makes sense. Morally speaking, these are pretty much what the characters follow:

Good Alignment:
-Amber
-Emily
-Brianna
-Claudia
-Demi
-Clover
-Mia
-Jess
-Laurie
-Angelina

Neutral Alignment:
-Tess (More towards Good)
-Christie (More towards Good)
-Alexis (More towards Good)
-Liz (More towards Good)
-Lola
-Lucy
-Nikki (More towards Bad)
-Kelsy(More towards Good)

Bad Alignment:
-Nicolette
-Nyx
-Tiffany
-Ella
-Bailey
-Danica
-Alice (More towards Neutral)

All that considered, I'd say a majority of our romancable cast (ESPECIALLY our MAIN love interests) are NOT okay with us doing scum of the earth things. And while not all of them are necessarily by the book good or evil, their compass on views of what we do or choices we make lean towards those categories.

Brianna not sleeping with a Corrupt protagonist makes PERFECT sense, though I do wish there would be a way potentially in the future (probably not) to play the game in a "cheating" way; in which all routes, fights, or opinions all get whatever out one you want them to. Maybe even making it so that Affection, Power, or Skill don't matter, but I suppose there is no fun in that. I only mention it because Ravager has those kind of options, while still keeping the narrative relatively the same.

Maybe Brianna loves us so much that she doesn't care about what we do as long as we are together, similarly to how Emily felt after hearing we've killed people. It does suck to miss the scene, but maybe I'll:

-Corrupt absorb the Sewer Monster rather than smash it into the building

-Kill the PM guards mindcontrolled by Jake (no change)

-Kill the mall cops (no change)

And then MAYBE play off the interview and get that extra Affection points, enough to still obtain the scene. Or I can just screw Brianna, plenty of other willing harem participants...(unless the scene is doggystyle; I'm too lazy to back track and grab the Hero route).
 
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necromater

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IT was a chimera an being honest ella kind of makes devil deals full of Holes to fuck you up an also kind of loves to fuck with you just because. and tiff is Kind of ball breaker and ella is kind of i am the alpha bitch so either my way or fuck you.
 
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It just felt a bit like it was all calculated by her. I could just be thinking too hard about it but for a monster to suddenly attack and for her to not be shocked at all during it is strange. Also the fact that the monster only targeted the guy and didn't even attempt to go for the more important person when it had the chance, on the first attack.

Again, I could just be looking too deeply into it. Though, I definitely wouldn't put it passed Tiffany. It fits her ambitious character well.
It was obviously planned, anyone who thinks otherwise is a dumbass.
 
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Zekethor

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That's just it though, it's training. We've only had a chance to evolve due to training once when we expanded ourselves, and it's mentioned that evolutions almost never happen due to training alone. Triggers tend to be either physical (our fight against Klaus) or mental blocks (Jake hurting Mia) possibly linked to the "type" of power one has. Additionally, enough monster matter can forcibly increase one's level, while being the most likely to cause one to fail to keep their sanity.
Most probably, Alice's current situation will force her to evolve. Deryl may well not be able to evolve due to his clone state, though if he gets enough of his main body or if they fuse he might evolve. MC will likely get forced into a corner against monster Deryl or someone else and get his 3rd. Michael though. . . It's hard to say when he'll evolve, due to his incredible battle sense he rarely gets pushed to his limits. If the backup team is still fighting the Deryl chimeras when the signal goes, he might hold the last of them down to let everyone else help you, and end up pushed hard enough that he'll at least get his powers working properly, if not a full evolution.
one thing that left me in agony and at the same time sad was in relation to Michael's skills, despite being a very good narrative decision, poor guy still doesn't know how to use them, I believe that in the next update he will awaken the skills unintentionally because the sense of real danger, think about him in training, he never felt his life was threatened but now it's different, I believe that this will be the trigger as well as his fight against that monster, which by the way the 2nd should give a lot of value to the brave warriors who give their lives in battles and reward them for victories, because of this the enemy's corpse would be necessary
 

VVAR666

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yeah , tiffany's " No . My husband just died , why would i be alright ? " seems really suspicious considering her attitude ! I think she used one of deryl's seed at that moment to spawn the monster ! i went back and saw how her hands are folded during the wedding , then extended near alaric at the next shot ( which is a front close up ).. then folded back again !
 

Lucyel

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Hello, I need help: I tried to play the game on Joiplay (because my PC is now broken :/), but I just can't save my game.
 

PinkNova

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After finishing the update, I have to say I got some Saint Seiya Gold Knights vibes from the captains, I wouldn't be surprised if one or two started to die next update. The Gold Knights felt super strong when introduced, but the things they fought were next level which led to a lot of self-sacrifice. Now when I think about a possible betrayal, I can't fully trust Deus for some reason he just has that feel about him, but I could be wrong.
 

OldmanRed

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No, you are so much weaker than her at that point in time that your win is still a loss. That is what we in gaming circles call a, "supposed to lose fight." Either don't fight her if your getting that ending, or train less so you can actually fight her.
Thanks bro
 

5k1n3xt

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I definitely think that the Tifanny thing was planned. I mean, she went from wanting to fuck up her dad to all being fine after being offered powers, I think that's totally cap and she just wanted to get the free powers for acting nice while still being against her dad, and by extension H.E.R.O, so I totally see her joining hands with Ella and S.I.N.
 

necromater

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I definitely think that the Tifanny thing was planned. I mean, she went from wanting to fuck up her dad to all being fine after being offered powers, I think that's totally cap and she just wanted to get the free powers for acting nice while still being against her dad, and by extension H.E.R.O, so I totally see her joining hands with Ella and S.I.N.
I gave up when i recall she wanting to kill Daddy Dexter and the little infiltration on H.E.R.O maybe she leaked the files. I do not think Del had the meanings so either there a more rats or the plan is to make the factions weak each other out to level the playground.
 

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I definitely think that the Tifanny thing was planned. I mean, she went from wanting to fuck up her dad to all being fine after being offered powers, I think that's totally cap and she just wanted to get the free powers for acting nice while still being against her dad, and by extension H.E.R.O, so I totally see her joining hands with Ella and S.I.N.
But then if you can get a monster in the middle of a packed church guarded by 5 level 5's without them realizing what's even happening, then wasting this on a figurehead of a groom instead of a person you actually want dead, that looks like severe misjudgment of priorities (and prematurely tipping your hand)

Of course, we could probably expect the daddy dearest to be protected from such mishap by one of said level 5's. But that in turn raises a question why the eaten guy wasn't.
 
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