Zenniiiii

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The game and the MC look like a mix between The Darkness(Jackie) and Prototype(Alex). I'm definitely checking this out because i love both of those games and anything that has similar vibes.

The setting has me interested and I'm curious to see how far the horror goes in here.
And now you have an Alexis pfp. respect homie
 

Cernunnos.

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After seeing Deryl's actions in the past and present I'm not particularly bothered by his fate but finding out that the MC is sterile from Tiffany is a colossal buzzkill. Undercuts all dirty talk and content in that direction for no real benefit.
 

Alandir

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what are your other favorite games with good story?
If you want some great story, try Out of Touch. If you don't mind rpgmaker, definetly try The Last Sovereign.
Both are very good and unlike a lot of avn's they have the advantage that both of them are already pretty long. Out of Touch is imo probably around a similar length to superhuman around now. The Last Sovereign is absolutely massive and was around 120 hours the last time I played. Probably quite a few more by now. It is currently getting work done on it's final open world segment before the last stretch of the story.
Out of Touch is a sort of psychedelic, horror, drama, comedy game. It's hard to describe without spoilers as it shifts tone very often and very quickly. It is very good and tells a very unique story.
The Last Sovereign has basically a classic fantasy plotline mixed with sex. The big bad is an evil overlord type who's powers are sexual in nature. The protagonist receives a weaker form of those same powers and attempts to use them to build up power and defeat the big bad.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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Ah, yes, join me my fellow monster fuckers. WW is a real homie. Killed everyone else's dream of impregnating humans and superhumans but left the monster impregnation door wide open for the rest of us.

I do still feel like Xanthe has a solution in mind for that because he has to know it's a dead end for superhumans as a species, if they can't reproduce. This could be where the monsters come in. Maybe there's a specific monster Xanthe knows that's good for keeping the mating species as the dominant outcome? Basically a reverse Asari for those who played Mass Effect. If not, then I can see superhumans going the same way the Viltrumites did in Invincible(comic), except they can't reproduce like the Viltrumites. Though, I guess they could pull a Thragg with a particular monster species, if they get desperate. I had another post in here somewhere about the cons to naturally breeding superhumans. Especially when you factor in the offspring potentially becoming sort of trojans for monsters completely taking over. I'll look over that post again because I forgot some of it. I do recall mentioning time being a major factor to it and the vulnerability they'll have to the Numbered and other elder monsters encroaching on them all while they're growing.

On the flip side, maybe this "Dark God" or it's usurper might come and devour all of the monster genes and power back into itself before running off to some other dimension to live peacefully. Might kill all of the superhumans and monsters in the process but at least humanity wouldn't go extinct. Who am I kidding. It would probably wipe everything out. I guess this ends my rambling on the subject.
 

Vitklim

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Ah, yes, join me my fellow monster fuckers. WW is a real homie. Killed everyone else's dream of impregnating humans and superhumans but left the monster impregnation door wide open for the rest of us.

I do still feel like Xanthe has a solution in mind for that because he has to know it's a dead end for superhumans as a species, if they can't reproduce. This could be where the monsters come in. Maybe there's a specific monster Xanthe knows that's good for keeping the mating species as the dominant outcome? Basically a reverse Asari for those who played Mass Effect. If not, then I can see superhumans going the same way the Viltrumites did in Invincible(comic), except they can't reproduce like the Viltrumites. Though, I guess they could pull a Thragg with a particular monster species, if they get desperate. I had another post in here somewhere about the cons to naturally breeding superhumans. Especially when you factor in the offspring potentially becoming sort of trojans for monsters completely taking over. I'll look over that post again because I forgot some of it. I do recall mentioning time being a major factor to it and the vulnerability they'll have to the Numbered and other elder monsters encroaching on them all while they're growing.

On the flip side, maybe this "Dark God" or it's usurper might come and devour all of the monster genes and power back into itself before running off to some other dimension to live peacefully. Might kill all of the superhumans and monsters in the process but at least humanity wouldn't go extinct. Who am I kidding. It would probably wipe everything out. I guess this ends my rambling on the subject.
As funny as the monster solution would be, I'd rather the MC overpower the stupid limitations in the name of the harem.

As far as things go otherwise, I can't help but think that the stakes got ramped up too high, and the only way for the world to not be awful to live in from here is what I mentioned before. Reset the status quo in terms of superhumans at least somewhat, limit their numbers, and get rid of all major scumbag players.
Otherwise, it will just be an eternal power struggle until humanity is wiped out and the remaining superhumans slowly die out or stop being human in any sense, which isn't much better. The MC still feels like a regular dude who is trying to have as normal life as possible amongst this madness, and man do I relate to that.
 

alkeera

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As far as things go otherwise, I can't help but think that the stakes got ramped up too high, and the only way for the world to not be awful to live in from here is what I mentioned before. Reset the status quo in terms of superhumans at least somewhat, limit their numbers, and get rid of all major scumbag players.
Otherwise, it will just be an eternal power struggle until humanity is wiped out and the remaining superhumans slowly die out or stop being human in any sense, which isn't much better. The MC still feels like a regular dude who is trying to have as normal life as possible amongst this madness, and man do I relate to that.
I can think of at least 5 ways WW could naratively deal with this problem.
1) Someone or something with insane level of power and authority takes over the world, starts to rule humanity and deals with chaos.
2) Send MC to some other world and continue story there.
3) Travel back in time where this problem doesn't exist yet.
4) New strong enemy for everyone emerges and they unite.
5) Fuck it. Chaos spreads. Law of The Jungle begins.
 

Vitklim

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I can think of at least 5 ways WW could naratively deal with this problem.
1) Someone or something with insane level of power and authority takes over the world, starts to rule humanity and deals with chaos.
2) Send MC to some other world and continue story there.
3) Travel back in time where this problem doesn't exist yet.
4) New strong enemy for everyone emerges and they unite.
5) Fuck it. Chaos spreads. Law of The Jungle begins.
None of these solutions are any good unfortunately. Mostly because they rely on cheap cop-outs or because they are narratively unsatisfying.
1) and 5) are basically the bad ending, that people won't like, myself included. And that's important, because people want to have a good payoff, one that made the journey worth it.
4) is technically fine, but unsatisfying because it doesn't solve the future issues I outlined, and it would make no sense for the atrocities of either Ella or H.E.R.O. to be forgiven. Also, the world might be screwed afterwards anyway.
2) and 3) are very cheap escape routes. 2) would negate all the work that went into characters and plot, it's basically a nuke button for 90% of the work that came before. 3) is just lazy and much the same way, plus it doesn't solve the problems long-term.

The real skill of a writer is to not get themselves stuck in a corner in the first place, or be very skilled at maneuvering your way out of them without destroying previously established rules, or breaking audience immersion and investment. So far so good, but with stakes this high, it becomes hard to manage.
 

alkeera

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None of these solutions are any good unfortunately. Mostly because they rely on cheap cop-outs or because they are narratively unsatisfying.
1) and 5) are basically the bad ending, that people won't like, myself included. And that's important, because people want to have a good payoff, one that made the journey worth it.
4) is technically fine, but unsatisfying because it doesn't solve the future issues I outlined, and it would make no sense for the atrocities of either Ella or H.E.R.O. to be forgiven. Also, the world might be screwed afterwards anyway.
2) and 3) are very cheap escape routes. 2) would negate all the work that went into characters and plot, it's basically a nuke button for 90% of the work that came before. 3) is just lazy and much the same way, plus it doesn't solve the problems long-term.

The real skill of a writer is to not get themselves stuck in a corner in the first place, or be very skilled at maneuvering your way out of them without destroying previously established rules, or breaking audience immersion and investment. So far so good, but with stakes this high, it becomes hard to manage.
I don't agree. They all sound boring because i simplifined them to one sentence each. All 5 can be interesting if writer is skillful, planned for this ahead and didn't just decide to do this on a whim or to drag a story more. There are other options which i didn't think of. For example some kind of MacGuffin which can also solve above-mentioned problem.
 
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