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bloodaxis

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I haven't given my take on the Laurie thing yet.
I was hoping the mc would've insta killed Jared at the very least in that scene, or mutilated him or something instead of just standing there. At least it makes more sense with him concentrating on saving Laurie and being wiped out power wise from that, but if she just dies that scene leaves a bit of a sour taste from how helpless you are, still, I am very happy with the update overall.
 
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Simpgor

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be prepared to seethe for atleast an entire update and most of second one :KEK:

Since you were "willing to forgive" Charlie for somehow not knowing that deryl's plan failed and something literally nobody (inclusindg xanthe) has seen happening I gotta ask what would you want Charlie to do after that? Just stand around? Kill Jared and piss off the people that Ella is using?
 

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There is, so to speak. She gives you the power to choose who's fucking her, effectively pimping her out. Just after that scene where she asks you to do it, and if you chose "yes", she will call you to watch her getting fucked.
The fuck, how do you get this scene? I didn't see anything like it.
 

Midas24

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Dang this game just keeps going and I keep putting off playing it. I remember I got killed at the party for not having enough power or something, and that corruption bit me in the ass somehow? I think. Been so long. I also think the game is set up in such a way that you're not supposed to see all character events in one playthrough, right? It encourages replaying? I can dig that, but it annoyed me you just die and need to start over if your stats are too low.

Any routes that are recommended? I dig all the character's designs, so I'm not picky, but I don't remember any specific fetishes in the routes. And do you break anything by save editing your stats? Because some of the early training events unlock some important powers, I seem to remember?
 

necromater

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The time was up we can deal with the emo cunt later. But boyband reject and Jared boy i don't wanna kill them boy ella sure give good ideas but not gonna turn them into fucking trees noooo i'm thinking more daemonculaba that way they will surfer as they are due. Sooo did you kill suwu or not?
 

necromater

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The time was up we can deal with the emo cunt later. But boyband reject and Jared boy i don't wanna kill them boy ella sure give good ideas but not gonna turn them into fucking trees noooo i'm thinking more daemonculaba that way they will surfer as they are due. Sooo did you kill suwu or not?
Man sure the pricks made my hatred for ella go away at least till the cunt comes back to do evil shit but for now let's go jhon wick on the pricks
 

DrakoGhoul

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I was hoping the mc would've insta killed Jared at the very least in that scene, or mutilated him to something instead of just standing there. At least it makes more sense with him concentrating on saving Laurie and being wiped out power wise from that, but if she just dies that scene leaves a bit of a sour taste from how helpless you are, still, I am very happy with the update overall.
Thing is, Jared is only level 1, maybe level 2 at max. It would take no huge effort on the MC's part to kill him before Charlie or Cole reacted. Especially, from underground, with a tentacle, while he was still being amped by his 3rd Evolution. Like the MC said, Mother(or Father) thought the MC could beat Cole there. Jared would've been nothing.

be prepared to seethe for atleast an entire update and most of second one :KEK:

Since you were "willing to forgive" Charlie for somehow not knowing that deryl's plan failed and something literally nobody (inclusindg xanthe) has seen happening I gotta ask what would you want Charlie to do after that? Just stand around? Kill Jared and piss off the people that Ella is using?
:KEK: I'm completely fine with waiting to kill them. You act like it's a problem when I did the same for Jake and now he's just a memory.

You also have no idea what you're talking about or simply confusing what part I'm referring to. Charlie put a command on Deryl to not snitch on Ella. That's what I was referring to. His plan failing was irrelevant because that's not the cause of him turning into a monster. I forgave her for it because she genuinely felt bad about it. And before you run around with the "Ella made her do it crap" I don't care. Ella made Jake do a lot of stuff too.

As for your other comment about "pissing off people Ella's using" It's like you forgot that she was actively not doing her job at times and said flat out that she didn't want to help Ella or Jared's dad before Ella figured out a way to get her to do it. Not to mention, the guy she protected literally tried to kill her and she was willing to potentially kill him herself...

So yeah, Charlie can die, if the option ever comes. I don't care what her reasoning was or whatever excuse you want to come up with for her. It's completely irrelevant to me.
 

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NTRoute and Romroute provide an equal number of corrupt points. I get you're just trolling, but pointing this out to anybody who might take you seriously.

So all of us just cheat the Living crap of this update to breed the witch and still save the dumb cunt ?
Some of us, but doubt all. The choice to let her survive without cheating will likely depend on future updates: breeding the Aglaecwif is implied to have bad consequences much later. Could even be a Dead End a la Christie's murder.

Is it possible to beat Valrvn on your own while doing a power playthrough and choosing the eye from the Shopkeep instead of the horn? I say it because I am 1 skill point short from 19 and passing the check, while I only get to 72 power and I need 80. And no, I don't want to cheat :HideThePain:
No, you'll have to settle for a dishonourable victory.

Charlie especially has to die now.
Depends on whether WW actually intends to give us that choice. From a narrative perspective, Charlie is surrounded by two hate-magnets (Jared and Cole), and has served as the (comparatively) moral core of S.I.N. She also seems to be the new, moderate leader. Generally, we players tend to have no real agency regarding the survival of such characters. Just speculation though.

The fuck, how do you get this scene? I didn't see anything like it.
NTRoute, then make sure to choose to kill Erik instead of sparing him. During the bonfire, Liz will give you the option to act as her, well, pimp. But no money involved, just voyeurism on MC's part. Might also open up MC fucking NTRLiz.
 

TerminusPrime

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Dang this game just keeps going and I keep putting off playing it. I remember I got killed at the party for not having enough power or something, and that corruption bit me in the ass somehow? I think. Been so long. I also think the game is set up in such a way that you're not supposed to see all character events in one playthrough, right? It encourages replaying? I can dig that, but it annoyed me you just die and need to start over if your stats are too low.

Any routes that are recommended? I dig all the character's designs, so I'm not picky, but I don't remember any specific fetishes in the routes. And do you break anything by save editing your stats? Because some of the early training events unlock some important powers, I seem to remember?
The game has been expanded enough that you can go on all the side routes so you don't have to skip training to see the other things. You should concentrate on training whenever it's possible to make sure you have enough power.
There are mutually exclusive routes as far as going with high or low corruption, choosing to be female or futa on the cheerleader route and whether you go on the ntr route with Liz, so you won't be able to see all of that in one game.
 
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Ddlc

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I haven't given my take on the Laurie thing yet. I'll give my reaction to it. Not going to spoiler this since this has been discussed without spoilers, heavily. I'll start by saying, I'm "fine" with it. I feel like that should've been more power dependant than skill and less reliant on being perfect for Deryl and the red monster fight in general but it's "fine". That said, Cole has to die, Jared has to die, and Charlie especially has to die now. No excuses, no mercy. I'm killing them all. No silly cucking shit nor redemption. On sight, they die.

You can't fathom the amount of hate I have for them right about now. From the bullshit "I was aiming for MC but oh well, at least I killed a random bitch" by Jared, to the "How did you become normal again Deryl? Come on, we have to go" from Charlie. The fact that she had the nerve to use her powers on Alice and MC to help them get away was enough. Her reasoning for it doesn't matter in the slightest. I didn't hold it against her for the Deryl thing at first but this was too far. I'm going to kill her and if Oscar is somehow still alive, I'm going to kill him too. If his body is still intact, I'm going to mutilate it until it's unrecognizable.

And you know what also pissed me off? The fact that the MC didn't just attack them immediately from underground and snipe Jared before he could even blink. There was nothing preventing him from doing it during that entire conversation with them. Plot armor is a real bitch sometimes but that just makes my desire to kill increase even higher as long as it keeps getting prolonged.

So yeah, I know I can save Laurie if I played differently but I won't. I'm a corrupted MC, so why should I cave and bend over backwards for Deryl to grow competent enough? I can live with Laurie's death but they can't remain alive. That's the price they're going to have to pay for it. My hate is totally justified and there's no way the plot can save any of them in the future. Every last one of them. I don't care if they're kids or innocent people. They all will die for it.

My rant is over. I've been holding that in since it happened. Hence the sadness in my other post. She obviously won't die on my main or skill MC but I started with my corruption main first. I have a few more post coming over the coming days about the monsters and so on but I had to get this one out first. I really did need to vent about it or it was going to stay on my mind. :cry:
Killing Charlie is something a corrupt mc would do on my eyes i mean why bother trying to understand someone elses motivation when "killing to gain more power" is your M.O, it just makes sense.

It seems she believes she needs Ella to find/save her brother so she will do whatever she needs for that goal no matter what, the comment regarding deryl returning from being a monster to me at least seems just surprise, asking him to come along is just her still on board with Ella and even more she speaks so casually like she is talking to a friend, ordering mc and alice to stop is also being team Ella (at least for now), so yeah in terms of people i want dead on this story this is not enough to even enter the list.

Jared is dead meat to me, i'm killing that bastard the first chance i have, Cole will only have a death warrant with his name if the icicle explosion was his doing or until he does some stupid shit, and since he IS GOING TO DO SOME STUPID SHIT VERY SOON, yup also dead.

I was very upset with what happened to Laurie, i even gave up on hot monster breeding sex to save her, but i would rather have hot girl romantic interest alive than casual monster sex.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Depends on whether WW actually intends to give us that choice. From a narrative perspective, Charlie is surrounded by two hate-magnets (Jared and Cole), and has served as the (comparatively) moral core of S.I.N. She also seems to be the new, moderate leader. Generally, we players tend to have no real agency regarding the survival of such characters. Just speculation though.
No worries, I get that myself and I'm fully aware that WW might not kill off Charlie. That said, I'm definitely not going to help her achieve her goal after that shit she pulled there. If I can't kill her then I'll just have to settle for cold resentment. The same doesn't apply for Jared and Cole though. Those two die.
 

mrttao

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There's no option to do that. The red light monster either you choose to fight it with mantis punch, and you die, or you try to overcome its power and win. And that's it. It doesn't raise your skill. The only way to raise it is to ask the S class monster on the left side
From previous updates I know that if you are not getting an option to win in a fight, it means your stats are too low.
what are your skill and power stats?
 

necromater

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So the note means Hero gonna go judas on us? I kind of knew that but still hurts so dad is with alice dad if you know you know XD that would be funny i told you to take care of her not to touch her you ugly manthing :mad: . Looks like alice is lucky both fathers love her. We only have a bald fuck and a mother that well i can't get mad at her XD
 
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necromater

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So my wife ask me if the update was shit since i'm so mad i told her no it was epic fucking shit worth of the tease and blueballs we endured she is playing it now hahahahahah wait my dear i'm sure you gonna get mad for a diffferent reason than mine and she is gonna love the witch more than me at heheh we will see if she she still likes nyx
 
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I have two things that I wanna "fix" for this update, first one is to be able to win perfectly against Deryl and can choose left (monster mommy) option. Second one is to be able to ask every question to that monster mommy. Because why not, why can't MC have sex with the monster and be a father sometime in the future and save Laurie both?
The Lore dump from Aglaecwif should not have been gated this badly, when comparing to skill points and power points I'll choose both over lore dump since I'm a optimizer(min-max player) granted this could have been forked with skill + Power points or Lore thereby rewarding players with the foresight to pick the eye over horn. I'll wait for the fix from WW regarding the 3rd evolution and see which choices were worth it.

Another aspect is to divide the lore dump by having Valravn expand on it and cause us to speculate how much is coming from his bias and what could the lies Aglaecwif told us


Valravn gives you the answer to that. ;)
I truly hope it's not a bad end or pointless kill considering we were teased we could breed with monsters since the Minyak fight and in V0.94 class lecture. I want MC to have a family with that Voluptous dame considering we don't have Bailey or any girls able to bear children.



Meh, I like Deryl, but I'm not letting him cuck me (the player, not the MC) out of hot, impregnation sex with a milfylicious monster. So I cheated. And reduced the skill check for the Deryl fight too, while I was at it, 'cuz to hell with it. First time.

And that's all I have to say about this update, despite its size. Honestly, completely dampened my enthusiasm for the entire update. Childish, but eh. Hope we don't have more of these (frankly, bloody-minded) choices in the future.
Bros before hoes, but considering it's Deryl there are always exceptions to the rule.
I do wish Bailey turned out as Sexy as Aglaecwif if not more. Here is to hoping we get Monster Waifus.


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No way I'm letting that retard get a child before MC.
I would never hear the end of it, and how else will I rub it in his face that in a span of few days(post class lecture) I got to impregnate a monster waifu ?




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No, they are not twins but rather share same monster parents and a past MC forgot. There is a hidden intamacy regarding Ella for the MC which begs the question what is her goal, there is foreshadowing that she needs him but for what is the mystery.



am i in the minority here who want the dev to slow the pace of the story little after we finish with this arc ? have some slice of life arcs and stuff ?
Yes, we've been building up slowly after the Mafia wars with klaus where this is the next biggest thing, and no the 3 way fight between MC vs Jake vs Deryl is a battle compared to what we have. Consider the next few updates to progress slowly before another confrontation. The story pacing is fine, it's the lore dumps that is rushed or botched due to execution.


man why do we have to choose between the monster snu snu and saving laurie
Was it ever a choice?
Every war has it's casulties and consequence, Laurie happened to be this updates reminding the MC's party they are not invincible. As for Aglaecwif, I pray the child is not some bad end or future villian, because I'd be pretty tragic for MC to kill his child or have him try to kill his father just because. Think about it, if Valravn and MC can have civil discussion I'd be cool to see MC be a brood lord ;)


The worst part about new Ella lore is new Ella theories.... :illuminati: :illuminati: :illuminati:
Quite possibly the oldest unanswered question since the games release, we finallyy got answers on the monsters but Ella is still it's longest mystery. I just pray the pay off is worth it.


Aglaecwif, it took me a minute, but isn't that an allusion to Grendel's mom? did we just father Grendel?!
A minute?
My good sir, you are truly cultured.





So all of us just cheat the Living crap of this update to breed the witch and still save the dumb cunt ?
No.
Didn't have any attachment to Laurie.
Aglaecwif > Laurie​



I haven't given my take on the Laurie thing yet. I'll give my reaction to it. Not going to spoiler this since this has been discussed without spoilers, heavily. I'll start by saying, I'm "fine" with it. I feel like that should've been more power dependant than skill and less reliant on being perfect for Deryl and the red monster fight in general but it's "fine". That said, Cole has to die, Jared has to die, and Charlie especially has to die now. No excuses, no mercy. I'm killing them all. No silly cucking shit nor redemption. On sight, they die.

You can't fathom the amount of hate I have for them right about now. From the bullshit "I was aiming for MC but oh well, at least I killed a random bitch" by Jared, to the "How did you become normal again Deryl? Come on, we have to go" from Charlie. The fact that she had the nerve to use her powers on Alice and MC to help them get away was enough. Her reasoning for it doesn't matter in the slightest. I didn't hold it against her for the Deryl thing at first but this was too far. I'm going to kill her and if Oscar is somehow still alive, I'm going to kill him too. If his body is still intact, I'm going to mutilate it until it's unrecognizable.

And you know what also pissed me off? The fact that the MC didn't just attack them immediately from underground and snipe Jared before he could even blink. There was nothing preventing him from doing it during that entire conversation with them. Plot armor is a real bitch sometimes but that just makes my desire to kill increase even higher as long as it keeps getting prolonged.

So yeah, I know I can save Laurie if I played differently but I won't. I'm a corrupted MC, so why should I cave and bend over backwards for Deryl to grow competent enough? I can live with Laurie's death but they can't remain alive. That's the price they're going to have to pay for it. My hate is totally justified and there's no way the plot can save any of them in the future. Every last one of them. I don't care if they're kids or innocent people. They all will die for it.

My rant is over. I've been holding that in since it happened. Hence the sadness in my other post. She obviously won't die on my main or skill MC but I started with my corruption main first. I have a few more post coming over the coming days about the monsters and so on but I had to get this one out first. I really did need to vent about it or it was going to stay on my mind. :cry:





Waiting of Drako and others to share their thoughts, I have to go over previous screenshots and sort the 2k images I have from this game while checking the foreshadowed lines from previous interactions as well as info about corruption since it seems to be increasing daily now by +1.

BTW anyone made a tier list for the game ?
 
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Ddlc

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So my wife ask me if the update was shit since i'm so mad i told her no it was epic fucking shit worth of the tease and blueballs we endured she is playing it now hahahahahah wait my dear i'm sure you gonna get mad for a diffferent reason than mine and she is gonna love the witch more than me at heheh we will see if she she still likes nyx
I would risk to say it was the best update we ever had, i was surprised with the update notes because the author said he was unsure about writing a big battle because holy shit it was just amazing.

The build up of the small fights made me fear for the characters, all of then had ups when i was sure they were about to win and downs when i thought they were about to die.

Ella's fight was HUGE, she was able to both show off and make people terrified just to have her ass kicked so hard she
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, also giving us an idea about how broken Malik and Nix are.

The Deryl's clones fight was crazy and had a lot of development for both, i'm glad they somehow still exist in a way.

Laurie had great moments no matter her fate, i started to like her a lot because of that.

Michael getting his powers and Alice going level 2 was so epic i thought it would be my favorite moment of the update until...

Mc level 3 and Monster Deryl blew everything out off the charts, honestly that is what i expected to be a lvl 5 fight in terms of scale but we are still far from that.

If HERO has dozens of people stronger than what we saw on that fight i will never worry about Mc getting too op.
 
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