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bloodaxis

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Still waiting for when MC can start changing his meat into monster meat or something so he can have more durability/strength just baseline. Steel and spider silk is cool and all but he could get really creative.
 

Carefree247

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Just a quick question, are there any plans for a wiki? i'm struggling to keep up with the lore of the game,
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They definitely weren't "calculated" since she's very chaotic and mercurial, more fortuitous circumstances let her not have to plan something to test us. She's (if it isn't a case of unreliable narrator) treated us in a way that she doesn't treat any of the other ones, either they get outright derision or apathy, we get something else, and I don't believe she's been outright lying to us either, just lying by omission, but I feel kind of confident that almost everything she's told us has been true.


A wiki would be great, someone just needs to make it, and that someone isn't me. :KEK:

No WIKI, I've once managed, updated and edited wiki for a novel and it's cumbersome to edit all that legibly and with all the randos poping up and editing whatnot.

Instead let's post all the info's on the reddit thread and ask WW to pin certain ones.

I want that to happen so bad so i can be the one who put her down for good.

It is possible H.E.R.O. killed a clone or she can simply split herself into two. Latter seems very likely considering her regeneration powers. If an earthworm can do it so does she.

Also probably too late for that but i wish there were more "breasts" and less two weather baloons floating waist high. I am pretty sure most woman will suffer severe spinal issues few years on and there are no amount of superpowers that can save them from that.
I just realised something, thinking back Ella displayed how she modified a corpse into a baseball flesh and disposed it.

THINK !

A battlefield littered with bodies of average joes waiting for her to modify and leave as decoy!!

PSA: Valravn and Aglaecwif are unreliable narrators. Their beliefs are likely a distorted hint at the actual lore rather than than the reality.

Except, possibly, the Ocean of Strength. Both seemed very confident about that.

Unlike most people here, Outer Twins intrigue me the most. Even more than Arbiters.
We already had certain info on the monsters, specifically the numbered.

Aglaecwif added new info and sorted it out meanwhile Valravn helped us confirm certain things.

In the end we now know more about monsters this update and can work our way there.

We knew the S+ class monsters HERO referred to were the numbered but we were in the dark about what happened to 7-12 as mentioned in the 2nd evolution lucid talk.

Drako was right about them being parts of a single Dark being, this just fleshes them out more.
 

RonaldGrand6969

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I completely forgot about the running away, that would explain a lot if the MC found Ellas squatting house, or that's where she got the idea for a house where kids just show up and live and decide things on their own.
Didn't Ella also go missing for a month?! I TOTALLY forgot about how we ran away from home for a month that time line could TOTALLY match up with us meeting on the street or something...perhaps the 3rd and 4th wanted to infect us but Ella got in the way first this her coming back different as Christie mentioned.
 
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Thedude715

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This game is still cool and I am always happy to see it get updated,buuuuuut got to say that the fight scenes in this update got pretty silly and they dragged on needlessly long. Some action is cool but when it's 10 minutes of fighting descriptions with no choices or cutaways it gets pretty boring. Visual novels or books in general don't lend themselves well to long combat scenes.

So yeah I ended up skipping through part of the long combat spiel but other then that this game is still good stuff.
 
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necromater

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So i killed su wu this time. to Risky to let him free. Fuck why was the femboy in jail for? the one we turn into a woman instead of Killing him. Brah this game got me paranoid and shit not wanting to leave loose ends.
 
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It's the eye... Not mother, not father...

You "Who... Who are you?"
Unknown "I don't have a name."
You "....What are you then?"
Unknown "....An origin."
You "Am I supposed to know what that means?"
Unknown "I trust you'll figure it out soon enough."
Unknown "I mean, who can you trust, if not yourself?"


The big question is if the eye comes from the monsters or if it already was there before you got infected...
Even in your first evolution there's hints it might already been there before you got infected...
(or it was put there... and that first evolution memory was your own... Ella and you being the last 2 of originally 12 kids being used for some experiment)

"My brain throbs and my spine aches."
"I hear a voice. It's faint, barely audible. But it's growing louder and louder."
You "What... what is this?"
"A memory enters my mind."
"A memory that is not my own."

And later :

"My mind sinks deep within me, back through body. Through my cells. Through my very DNA."
"Memories of the distance past are located there, the genetic legacy of humanity. Improved and refined throughout the ages."
You "The future... this is our future..."
Actually a meant this part:

"Until i feel a presence beside me holding my hand
-It's alright
The voice is warm and kind, unlike the harsh raspy voice i was speaking to before
-We're together now
It comes through heavily distorted, i'm not sure if it's male or female. And yet conforts me all the same, asswaging my fears me loneliness
Cradling me in it's gentle embrace
I sink deeper but not in the dark
I sink deeper...into the warm bosom of the figure beside me
Our bodies, our souls merge, and finally i feel complete.
Dead End 36: Born Again"

The one you mentioned is surely eye boy but this one seems to refer to someone else, at first i thought it was Ella fusing with Mc, but the dialogue on Deus bad end shows the same whitout Mc absorbing Ella or vice versa. So i assume it was actually Monster Mom/Memory.

To resume, you start hearing eye boy, then someone else, which i think is memory.
 

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You know what I'd like for next update's "Chill" vibe?
-Club scene, friends night out with everyone.
-Seeing our Dad and Amber/Liz's Mom interact? Maybe all the parents have a get together. They all have old ties so it would also be nice to see how they feel about our harem, relations with each other, powers, etc.
-bullying, if we can't display our strength by clowning on assholes that harass our friends I'll be pissed.
-fanclub meet up? It's been a while if only happening in one occasion way back, it would be nice to see hardcore fans or haters.
-monster research would be nice, never hurts to get a non choice blocked lore drop.

Oh well, might get some of this, might not. I tried to stay clear of theories or plot based subjects as I'm sure they will natural make themselves present throughout the side stuff.
 

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Also I see a lot of people whining about this update:

-The fighting was fine, I thoroughly enjoyed it, if I had to nitpick one thing; it would be the lack of soldiers/Superhumans in the background, that's it. Complaining about how there, "Wasn't enough art" or "it was mostly just dialogue" is a useless argument. You've been playing the game how long and now that you are at the biggest fight sequence in the game's history, NOW you decide to criticize the already established fight style? Did you expect them to touch tips and quit? If you want to see REAL dialogue heavy fighting, read, you'll be complaining a lot less. Sure we COULD have some fights be just CG images back to back with no descrips, but then the fight would go by much faster, or/and take far more work, and as we know with fans for Adult games, they are impatient as fuck, and fans are a Dev's lifeline (literally).

-The choices while limited, quite literally can decide the fate of an entire character, or HUGE lore drop. I suppose if I had to nitpick it would be that lore being locked behind picking one or the other, but that's what makes a choice, get over it.

-The NTR? Really? I mean it doesn't take an armchair psychologist to determine that NTR as a whole is not only unrealistic, but also fucking borderline nonsensical, god forbid it's not a Masterpiece.

-MC not recovering his memory could be a variety of reasons let's not kid ourselves. It could be him PERSONALLY suppressing the traumatic event, Ella (if they really did meet up), a Monster, list goes on. This would be even worse for the Corruption route, as the memories of everyone you've consumed also become a part of you as you sort of lose yourself upon the first few moments after.

-I personally really don't see too much (if any) plot holes, rather we just don't have all the information yet. So to criticize the work as lackluster just because the facts don't add up to a desired conclusion just seems, ridiculous no?



I'll always ride W.W so maybe I'm biased but compared to literally almost everything else on this site and even some work beyond, the writing is peak, BELIEVE me.
 
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ItzSyther

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-The choices while limited, quite literally can decide the fate of an entire character, or HUGE lore drop. I suppose if I had to nitpick it would be that lore being locked behind picking one or the other, but that's what makes a choice, get over it.
The only thing that bothered me this whole update was the lack of a choice when Alice brings up staying with HERO or not. Deryl wants to stay because he idolizes Xanthe and wants to learn under him. Alice is having a partnership with HERO (although that could fall apart later on if they no longer need her for), and Michael doesn't comment.

It's interesting to me during that exchange the MC doesn't give any input about how they feel or if they wanna still leave or stay. If you all remember the MC when first forced into HERO actually has a choice of saying they wanna go or stay so I was hoping that prior choice would of had a call back to it of some sort if whatever choice the player made if they still felt the same way (like the eye scene).
 
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Go right, overpower, fight yourself, take out red light, hesitate, take out crystal sword. I had 30 skill level, but others have mentioned that you can save Laurie as long as you have 28 skill level.
Thanks for the option might do that on a different playthrough but I think for the most part her death serves as a good point in the story for the MC and Derly to help them grow
 
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RonaldGrand6969

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The only thing that bothered me this whole update was the lack of a choice when Alice brings up staying with HERO or not. Deryl wants to stay because he idolizes Xanthe and wants to learn under him. Alice is having a partnership with HERO (although that could fall apart later on if they no longer need her for), and Michael doesn't comment.

It's interesting to me during that exchange the MC doesn't give any input about how they feel or if they wanna still leave or stay. If you all remember the MC when first forced into HERO actually has a choice of saying they wanna go or stay so I was hoping that prior choice would of had a call back to it of some sort if whatever choice the player made if they still felt the same way (like the eye scene).
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I actually remember that, sorry I go on unhinged rants sometimes.

I also wanted that choice, but I think it's prevalent that our position in H.E.R.O isn't going to change any time soon, as we are a corner stone for their support, and flipping the game into 2 separate plotlines would double the game's narrative and update content, too long.

Perhaps this interaction is W.W's way of showing that this is a "safe space". The MC has been more grounded here than he ever was at R&X. Not only being able to be himself (Superhuman) but also having his college of friends right above, along with his Superhuman friends finding a place to grow their powers and ambitions.

If I had my choice despite all of the above, I'd leave to go be with S.I.N, and truly help Ella with whatever she has planned but that would also probably make for a more boring story. Destroying H.E.R.O is probably an end game choice, and will already be in the process due to plot to finish them off, so for now; I think we are stuck with them.

I could see a potential side switch in the future update where we take on S.I.N, perhaps W.W will use the opportunity to shed more light on Ella (as there are plenty of other threats in the world than what she concocts). It would also be a way to allow Corrupt players enjoy their gameplay, or challenge Pure players to change S.I.N's ways, who knows.
 

bloodaxis

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I actually remember that, sorry I go on unhinged rants sometimes.

I also wanted that choice, but I think it's prevalent that our position in H.E.R.O isn't going to change any time soon, as we are a corner stone for their support, and flipping the game into 2 separate plotlines would double the game's narrative and update content, too long.
I personally don't like either group purely because I am not a fan of being a lackey, doesn't matter who it is, but even more so people like Dexter and Langdon. I might consider working together with Ella if she was forthcoming about her motives and information in general but doubt that'd ever happen.
 
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