VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Neverwonder]

since we're shareing our thoughts on the girls I might as well share mine


Amber: Honestly I like her. she a nice chick but kinda a prude in how she act but is caring or well at is not being a total jerk to people she care about. she a hard worker too. to be honest she is pretty hot to me. She got all the right curves not too big but not to show just right.

Liz: Well if we're just talking about just look then yes i like her. I mean she has the same body type as amber so yea. as for if i were to date her ehhh not really i kinda she her as a sex friend if anything as she is known to sleep around or just dont care all that much if someone try to sleep with her.

Emily: Now she someone I would like to have as a friend irl. she has a dog, play music is pretty chill and loyal too her friend or care about them a lot. she also not a total prude or too much of a slut as she is shown to to have some fun without going to extreme length

Alice: Ah alice with her in the beginning i really didn't care for her. Did think she was hot sure i mean even if her tits were the size of watermelon the rest of her was goodlooking. It was during and after the mafia arc was when I started to she her in a different light she then started to show more of caring and vulnerable side. That made me start to like her more and more. yes she a killer and she even admit to even liking to an extent and you know what i can over look that because I like her

Mia: I dont really she her as a datable option mostly because i perfer girls with a more busty appearance as well as because of what happen between her and jake, now i know with the recent update with us and jake helping her regain her memory. she not to happy about jake hell she might even hate him now. soooo i guess she could be an option did is mostly me and my guitly concise speaking

Christie: The striper girlfriends, she exactly what I excepted in getting really flirty and sexually active annd that kinda all on my thought on her. my reaction to her was literally "oh cool"

Demi: she a little germline in all the fun way. It kinda nice that we got our own hardcore fan where she founded the fan club for us and even has her own costume of us. I kinda see her as a little sister. she get off that vibe to me if that make sense.

Jess: I'll be honest when we first met her I thought she was a bitch as she would go off on us for doing noting to her or even trying to help her at least in the beginning in our guy form. farther on I guess she not so bad but after the first impression of her I dont really like her. Im mostly playing her route because in my main im romacting and fucking everyone and everything that breath that inclue fmonster, woman, femboy, superhuman, and shadow(the dog not the hedgehog if anyone was confuse)

Tess: the amazon like cheerleader. honestly speaking I really dont got much to say to her. She hot sure but that it.

Tiffany: The rich, but ambitious daughters to a man she want dead. I mean she hot and give you loads of money depending on your choice so she good in my book

Claudia: The naïve princess. I like her. her interaction with the mc are cute and wholesome. which I might it refreshing too she. she just give off "i want to protect and cuddle you" energy too me and I like her shade of blue hair.

Danica: The assassin bitch that try to kill us but she is hot so im kinda neutral about her.

Bailey: My poor sweet innocent little oil monster. I was fun to have around it was like having a pet dog around with the added bonus of being hot. Too bad she had to die as she was my first "kill" as the player choice.

Brianna: The baddest of bad cop if you know what i mean. She pretty fun to hang around I like alot of her interaction with the mc and the fact that she a cop just add to that

Angelina: Big titty with red hair well she instantly in my good book with that alone I did always had a thing for red heads

Laurie: She was really warming up to me not gonna lie. Her powers are pretty neat and I like the fact she was able to make armor out of it too...just too bad I have to choose between her and big titty baby momma.

Alexis: She instantly in my good bad for the same reason as angelina. big tits, red hair, and piercing beautiful

Nico: nico, nico oh my sweet nico. This might be a hot take but I kinda like her I don't know why. I all honestly I should hate her as she is a bitch but i just don't. sooo yeah she cool

Nyx: She give off big mommy/sis energy to me and that all I need to like her no other requitement needed. That and the fact her powers interest me and that it look like we might be put in her team as they just lost a member.

Aglaecwif: As a big tity goth monster mommy I like her instantly. It was a hard choice between picking her for the sex and saving Laurie life.

And Lastly Ella: The one that effectively started this whole thing in turning us into a superhuman giving us life threating test all for us to become stronger while also caring for us to some degree while messing with our friends. There just too many thing about her that is keeping me from disliking but also from liking her as well. All I can say is that she something else entirely

and that my thoughts on almost all of them this might my longest post ever

 

[Gtdead]

The infertility is not a monster problem, we know the Minyak downgraded as species (from the stronger orange Minyak) to get a higher fertility grade, but it's mostly a superhuman problem. (although we now know they can breed with monsters)
We know the Apostles infect others to produce their spawn but those are unique entities. As far we know the majority of S-class monsters could be plenty in numbers, even if their original species is a lower class. (even 2 infected or tainted can produce a natural born)

For the purposes discussed, I considered them as 2 different scenarios. Either superhuman mothers, or monster mothers.

Fear of monsterfication is justified, it often happens during infection or evolution. Corruption is an important factor.
It's the reason lower HERO agents wear the helmets. Superhumans on their 5th evolution don't wear the helmet because the corruption is less of a problem, first there's no 6st evolution and second fighting with monsters exposes them to corruption levels the helmet isn't helping anyway... It's also known several of the high ranking HERO members can speak "monster", something only possible with high corruption... Aglaecwif even points out there's only a small special group of us that can get monster powers without losing (too much of) our humanity.... (and MC can have several dead ends getting monsterfied)

Agreed, monsterification is an issue. What I was more interested in is him saying that Ella is this way (a villain) due to high corruption when Nyx is also corrupted. If he knew his captain has high corruption then it's unlikely he would use that as an accusation against Ella. Makes me think that he doesn't know about it, despite the fact that Nyx was pretty open about it with MC.

 

[vogelbeest]

What I was more interested in is him saying that Ella is this way (a villain) due to high corruption

but I'll be damned if I turn into one of those damned monsters, or get so corrupted I might as well be one... Like you.

He just calls her a monster... But yeah, the link between corruption and monster behavior is also made clear...
He judges Ella for her actions, so Nyx is in the clear either way... They're on the "right" side fighting for the good cause..
(and yet Deus needs Ella to complete her work... )

 

[ItzSyther]

since we're shareing our thoughts on the girls I might as well share mine


Amber: Honestly I like her. she a nice chick but kinda a prude in how she act but is caring or well at is not being a total jerk to people she care about. she a hard worker too. to be honest she is pretty hot to me. She got all the right curves not too big but not to show just right.

Liz: Well if we're just talking about just look then yes i like her. I mean she has the same body type as amber so yea. as for if i were to date her ehhh not really i kinda she her as a sex friend if anything as she is known to sleep around or just dont care all that much if someone try to sleep with her.

Emily: Now she someone I would like to have as a friend irl. she has a dog, play music is pretty chill and loyal too her friend or care about them a lot. she also not a total prude or too much of a slut as she is shown to to have some fun without going to extreme length

Alice: Ah alice with her in the beginning i really didn't care for her. Did think she was hot sure i mean even if her tits were the size of watermelon the rest of her was goodlooking. It was during and after the mafia arc was when I started to she her in a different light she then started to show more of caring and vulnerable side. That made me start to like her more and more. yes she a killer and she even admit to even liking to an extent and you know what i can over look that because I like her

Mia: I dont really she her as a datable option mostly because i perfer girls with a more busty appearance as well as because of what happen between her and jake, now i know with the recent update with us and jake helping her regain her memory. she not to happy about jake hell she might even hate him now. soooo i guess she could be an option did is mostly me and my guitly concise speaking

Christie: The striper girlfriends, she exactly what I excepted in getting really flirty and sexually active annd that kinda all on my thought on her. my reaction to her was literally "oh cool"

Demi: she a little germline in all the fun way. It kinda nice that we got our own hardcore fan where she founded the fan club for us and even has her own costume of us. I kinda see her as a little sister. she get off that vibe to me if that make sense.

Jess: I'll be honest when we first met her I thought she was a bitch as she would go off on us for doing noting to her or even trying to help her at least in the beginning in our guy form. farther on I guess she not so bad but after the first impression of her I dont really like her. Im mostly playing her route because in my main im romacting and fucking everyone and everything that breath that inclue fmonster, woman, femboy, superhuman, and shadow(the dog not the hedgehog if anyone was confuse)

Tess: the amazon like cheerleader. honestly speaking I really dont got much to say to her. She hot sure but that it.

Tiffany: The rich, but ambitious daughters to a man she want dead. I mean she hot and give you loads of money depending on your choice so she good in my book

Claudia: The naïve princess. I like her. her interaction with the mc are cute and wholesome. which I might it refreshing too she. she just give off "i want to protect and cuddle you" energy too me and I like her shade of blue hair.

Danica: The assassin bitch that try to kill us but she is hot so im kinda neutral about her.

Bailey: My poor sweet innocent little oil monster. I was fun to have around it was like having a pet dog around with the added bonus of being hot. Too bad she had to die as she was my first "kill" as the player choice.

Brianna: The baddest of bad cop if you know what i mean. She pretty fun to hang around I like alot of her interaction with the mc and the fact that she a cop just add to that

Angelina: Big titty with red hair well she instantly in my good book with that alone I did always had a thing for red heads

Laurie: She was really warming up to me not gonna lie. Her powers are pretty neat and I like the fact she was able to make armor out of it too...just too bad I have to choose between her and big titty baby momma.

Alexis: She instantly in my good bad for the same reason as angelina. big tits, red hair, and piercing beautiful

Nico: nico, nico oh my sweet nico. This might be a hot take but I kinda like her I don't know why. I all honestly I should hate her as she is a bitch but i just don't. sooo yeah she cool

Nyx: She give off big mommy/sis energy to me and that all I need to like her no other requitement needed. That and the fact her powers interest me and that it look like we might be put in her team as they just lost a member.

Aglaecwif: As a big tity goth monster mommy I like her instantly. It was a hard choice between picking her for the sex and saving Laurie life.

And Lastly Ella: The one that effectively started this whole thing in turning us into a superhuman giving us life threating test all for us to become stronger while also caring for us to some degree while messing with our friends. There just too many thing about her that is keeping me from disliking but also from liking her as well. All I can say is that she something else entirely

and that my thoughts on almost all of them this might my longest post ever

Very good list mah boi.

 

[Ddlc]

To clarify, they are not exactly sterile. Rather, each superhuman is their own unique individual species with a population of 1.
Thus 2 superhumans reproducing is like a dog impregnating a cat. Not gonna work.
The individual cat and dog are both fertile, they are just not compatible.

Technically it makes every single sexual encounter in the game into bestiality... or rather, xenophilia since both are sapient.

In such a situation it is plausible that some superhumans are actually compatible due to common origin.
And such compatibility could be discovered via genetic match computing... or just a man whore like MC fucking everything with legs.

This might be the best explanation i ever heard, yes even species very similar in genetics can easily be incompatible to reproduce, If monster infection changes the DNA to allow very specific powers them even very small changes would be enough to make them too different to each other, like their own species.

It's really incorrect to say infertile, since they can reproduce, even if only with monsters, superhuman/superhuman might be possible but all the information we have until now is againt it.

The infertility is not a monster problem, we know the Minyak downgraded as species (from the stronger orange Minyak) to get a higher fertility grade, but it's mostly a superhuman problem. (although we now know they can breed with monsters)
We know the Apostles infect others to produce their spawn but those are unique entities. As far we know the majority of S-class monsters could be plenty in numbers, even if their original species is a lower class. (even 2 infected or tainted can produce a natural born)

Reproduction is not a problem on the monster side, they can make more through humans, animals, monsterfication of superhumans... It is a problem on the human/superhuman side though.
If high compatibility to monster infection is a rare trait them the world migh run out of humans capable of developing powers, superhumans can't pass this to children of their own, regular humans will be unable to if they get powers and if they don't they have shorter lifespans than superhumans.

but I'll be damned if I turn into one of those damned monsters, or get so corrupted I might as well be one... Like you.

He just calls her a monster... But yeah, the link between corruption and monster behavior is also made clear...
He judges Ella for her actions, so Nyx is in the clear either way... They're on the "right" side fighting for the good cause..
(and yet Deus needs Ella to complete her work... )

Seems like he considers high corruption a problem and that he associates it with evolution since they were talking about that, interesting since Mc can reach lvl 3 with literally 0 corruption, he definitly thinks that being too corrupt takes a lot of your humanity (he might be right on that) and was fine remaining lvl 3 while getting more power even if slowly, i'm grateful to learn through his mistakes though.
As for Nyx i don't think her corruption is a mistery on anything like that, she was very open with Mc regarding this, and if she is so open to a unknow newbie i don't think she had any problems with the matter to a veteran liutenant .
I accept the possibility of being wrong though, i don't trust anyone after all, maybe she had her reasons to only talk about that with Mc.

 

[necromater]

XD this forum right now

 

[vogelbeest]

It's really incorrect to say infertile, since they can reproduce, even if only with monsters, superhuman/superhuman might be possible but all the information we have until now is againt it.

Best check the library at HERO base, there's information there that seems to suggest otherwise...

"The Infected are by far the monsters most commonly encountered. Monsters that were once human or animal."

"Two infected can mate and produce a natural born, usually resulting in a monster more powerful than either parent.

"The Variants are unique monsters, commonly born from failed Superhumans. They are the third most commonly encountered monsters."

There's no section on superhumans, but it would be surprising if 2 failed superhumans can reproduce together but two superhumans can't....

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Alright, it's been a hot minute now and a lot of people got to play it. Now that I don't have to put anything in spoilers, I'll give my full thoughts on this update. This will mostly cover the update as a whole and not so much dive into the theories, monster lore and other stuff. I've finished all of my playthroughs this update for my 4 characters. I haven't seen all of the variants of scenes just yet. I'm also waiting for Public release so I know what my stats are for Level 3.

So to start with the battle or battles. Laurie put in a lot of work this update, which shocked the hell out of me. I like that she developed her powers like I thought she would with the mini darts. Her growth and confidence made what happened later all the more devastating but let's move on to the other people. Alice with her evolution and Michael with his powers unlocking. They progressed about just how some thought. I like that Alice did develop the ability to pull her target toward herself for her attacks. That was another thing I thought would happen since she favors close fights so much. As for her evolution itself, I'll save that for the Monster Lore and Numbered posts because there's a lot to unravel there. Michael, I'll get to later.

Moving to what I consider one of the big highlights this update. Ella vs Nico, Malik and Nyx. Before that, I would like to say I like Ella's redesign a lot here. I'll have to do another top list for designs because she's back in my top 5. Anyway, I said I thought Nico would get messed up when she went out to hunt Ella but she actually held her own. She did get a bit fucked up like I predicted but she actually was pressing Ella, a lot. Those two and Malik basically said fuck the environment this update. Like it's so much to cover in that fight alone that I'll have to make another post. We did finally get to see Ella get owned badly, even before Nyx one hit killed her, though she undoubtedly survived. I'll save the how for later as well. Though, I think it settles how Ella compares to the top HERO Members.

Now to the MC. A lot of theories became confirmed here, with even newer ones, like the MC being able to use stored memories to transfer them into other characters like Mia, being confirmed. Even him setting it up without touching her seems possible but that was vague there and he cut her first. We'll have to wait until he trains his Memory trait a bit more. Anyway, the MC has a huge can of worms to unpack. From him becoming a papa this update to reaching Level 3 and evening as far as beyond Level 5 via the Origin, which is a whole other bag of worms. We got to see his growth from his training and then watched his potential explode with Level 3. His armors looked amazing. His Middle Armor especially. Some resemble Jackie's Darkness Armor a lot now, which I liked. MC getting acknowledged by the homie Val but he's out of pocket for calling our milf a whore. I hope the baby is a female monster with real daddy issues.

After that, we arrived to the aftermath with Ella's "death", Laurie's fate, Deryl becoming whole and a shit ton of other info. We got Hex saying fuck everybody to dip with SIN while Nico said fuck the humans and left with HERO. We then got that fucker Jared, who seems to have Ice or crystal powers, being cocky and Cole actually not being as enthusiastic to fight the MC now. Before all of that though, we got Shen, who I forgot about actually. It seems he reached Level 4, which explains his looks. There was also the Charlie bit there about how he did it but I'll leave that for later as well.

All of that said, the update was fantastic. I would like to go more into more detail but this post is getting too long. I do have some critiques about some scenes though. Like putting huge amounts of Lore behind multiple choices and basically gating it for majority of the players. Then there's the Deryl stuff, which had way too much importance put on it to the point that you can't save Laurie unless you uplift him. Other than that, it was fantastic, like I said. I'll probably do an Ella post next. When I'm done with all of my posts, you'll see why I had to separate them all. It really would be a wall of text if I went in too much detail with all of this update.

 

[ItzSyther]

Alright, it's been a hot minute now and a lot of people got to play it. Now that I don't have to put anything in spoilers, I'll give my full thoughts on this update. This will mostly cover the update as a whole and not so much dive into the theories, monster lore and other stuff. I've finished all of my playthroughs this update for my 4 characters. I haven't seen all of the variants of scenes just yet. I'm also waiting for Public release so I know what my stats are for Level 3.

So to start with the battle or battles. Laurie put in a lot of work this update, which shocked the hell out of me. I like that she developed her powers like I thought she would with the mini darts. Her growth and confidence made what happened later all the more devastating but let's move on to the other people. Alice with her evolution and Michael with his powers unlocking. They progressed about just how some thought. I like that Alice did develop the ability to pull her target toward herself for her attacks. That was another thing I thought would happen since she favors close fights so much. As for her evolution itself, I'll save that for the Monster Lore and Numbered posts because there's a lot to unravel there. Michael, I'll get to later.

Moving to what I consider one of the big highlights this update. Ella vs Nico, Malik and Nyx. Before that, I would like to say I like Ella's redesign a lot here. I'll have to do another top list for designs because she's back in my top 5. Anyway, I said I thought Nico would get messed up when she went out to hunt Ella but she actually held her own. She did get a bit fucked up like I predicted but she actually was pressing Ella, a lot. Those two and Malik basically said fuck the environment this update. Like it's so much to cover in that fight alone that I'll have to make another post. We did finally get to see Ella get owned badly, even before Nyx one hit killed her, though she undoubtedly survived. I'll save the how for later as well. Though, I think it settles how Ella compares to the top HERO Members.

Now to the MC. A lot of theories became confirmed here, with even newer ones, like the MC being able to use stored memories to transfer them into other characters like Mia, being confirmed. Even him setting it up without touching her seems possible but that was vague there and he cut her first. We'll have to wait until he trains his Memory trait a bit more. Anyway, the MC has a huge can of worms to unpack. From him becoming a papa this update to reaching Level 3 and evening as far as beyond Level 5 via the Origin, which is a whole other bag of worms. We got to see his growth from his training and then watched his potential explode with Level 3. His armors looked amazing. His Middle Armor especially. Some resemble Jackie's Darkness Armor a lot now, which I liked. MC getting acknowledged by the homie Val but he's out of pocket for calling our milf a whore. I hope the baby is a female monster with real daddy issues.

After that, we arrived to the aftermath with Ella's "death", Laurie's fate, Deryl becoming whole and a shit ton of other info. We got Hex saying fuck everybody to dip with SIN while Nico said fuck the humans and left with HERO. We then got that fucker Jared, who seems to have Ice or crystal powers, being cocky and Cole actually not being as enthusiastic to fight the MC now. Before all of that though, we got Shen, who I forgot about actually. It seems he reached Level 4, which explains his looks. There was also the Charlie bit there about how he did it but I'll leave that for later as well.

All of that said, the update was fantastic. I would like to go more into more detail but this post is getting too long. I do have some critiques about some scenes though. Like putting huge amounts of Lore behind multiple choices and basically gating it for majority of the players. Then there's the Deryl stuff, which had way too much importance put on it to the point that you can't save Laurie unless you uplift him. Other than that, it was fantastic, like I said. I'll probably do an Ella post next. When I'm done with all of my posts, you'll see why I had to separate them all. It really would be a wall of text if I went in too much detail with all of this update.

Was starting to miss you man

 

[Ddlc]

Best check the library at HERO base, there's information there that seems to suggest otherwise...

"The Infected are by far the monsters most commonly encountered. Monsters that were once human or animal."

"Two infected can mate and produce a natural born, usually resulting in a monster more powerful than either parent.

"The Variants are unique monsters, commonly born from failed Superhumans. They are the third most commonly encountered monsters."

There's no section on superhumans, but it would be surprising if 2 failed superhumans can reproduce together but two superhumans can't....

That's very interesting actually, i mean what is the difference between a monster that was once a human and a failed superhuman ?
Maybe the Infected refers to those that transformed into a more commom kind of monster as soon as they were infected while the Variant is someone who had become a superhuman, developed unique powers and then monsterfied, while evolving for example.

As for failed superhumans being able to reproduce i think it has to do with how much close they are to monsters, i don't know the reason but monsters are WILDLY different to each other AND superhumans and yet it seems a regular knowledge they can reproduce with them, while HERO is very open telling even recruits that superhumans can't with each other.
They might be lying ? obviously and i take everything they divulgue with two grains of salt, that's why i always consider all information with "as far as we know", but it is everything we have for now.

To resume what i think, failed superhumans are much closer to being monsters so they can reproduce with each other, superhumans can't because they are more distant and this was told to us by HERO and they might be lying about everything.

 

[vogelbeest]

That's very interesting actually,

Library has info on several types, but all monsters... So yeah, a failed superhuman is a superhuman that monsterfied.
But knowing HERO containment has several of these in cells (like Oscar) there's not really that much difference between a superhuman and the monstertype...

 

[Ddlc]

Library has info on several types, but all monsters... So yeah, a failed superhuman is a superhuman that monsterfied.
But knowing HERO containment has several of these in cells (like Oscar) there's not really that much difference between a superhuman and the monstertype...

The Oscar you refer is the one with the litght powers, that can slow down, go faster an all ? the one Michael beat during mafia arc or Oscar Charlie's brother ? sorry i always get confused when someone mentions "Oscar" in this game

I think the difference is how unpredictable the powers can be, Infected seem the "normal" type, you know what powers they have because they resemble the monster that made then a lot.
Variant seems more unique, something that makes them different enough to be cautious.

Example:
1.A monster that is an infected human by a lower class monster, it's basically another monster of the same class.
2.A monster that is a superhuman monsterfied after an evolution, had time to develop their powers and become stronger, it can be a lot more dangerous than the monster parent if it was low class (or a lot weaker if it was high class but didn't had a lot of time to grow).

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Oh yeah, before I go into Ella. Might as well get the Numbered/Apostles out of the way. It's all still speculation.

- 1st = "The Authority" -

Spawns/Monsters:
Jake - 100%/1st Generation
Orang Minyak - ???
Minyaks - 50%/7th Generation
Kenny - ???

Possibly:
Demi's Monster - ???
Demi - ???
Charlie - ???
Zara - ???
Jill - ???

-- 2nd = "The Power" --

Spawns/Monsters:
Michael - 100%/1st Generation
Leigong - 58%/8th Generation

Possibly:
Klaus - ???
M37 Luz Mala - ???


--- 3rd = "The Body" ---

Spawns/Monsters:
Ella - 100%/1st Generation
MC - 100%(?)/1st Generation
Orang Minyaks - ???
Minyaks - 40%/7th Generation
Kenny - ???
Bailey - ???

Possibly:
Laurie - ???
Laurie's Monster - ???


---- 4th = "The Memory" ----

Spawns/Monsters:
MC - 100%/1st Generation
Sharon - ?%/ ? generation
Sharon's Monster - ?%/ ??? Generation


----- 5th = "Time"? -----

Spawns/Monsters:
Deus - ???
Zack - ???
Zack's Monster - ???

------ 6th = "The Ether" Space ------

Spawns/Monsters:
The Fairy - 100%/1st Generation
Alice - 100%?/2nd Generation
M33 Hex - ???
Nico - ???

Possibly:
Jill - ???


------- 7th = "The Dark" -------

Spawns/Monsters:
Valravn - 100%/1st Generation
Minyak - 10%/7th Generation

Possibly:
Aglaecwif

-------- 8th = "The Light"? --------

Spawns/Monsters:
Tiffany - 100%?/1st Generation
Clark - ???
Clark's Monster - ???

Possibly:
Danica - ???
M65 - Gestas - ???
Oscar - ???
M46 - Wepwawet - ???

9th = ?
10th = ?
11th = ?
12th = ?

If I filled in the blanks from this update then the 8th is most likely Light as Aglaecwif mentioned that only the 6th and 8th could reach their space by travel. The 6th makes sense because it control space itself while the 8th potentially being "Light" means it's speed is that of Light.

As for the 5th being Time, I mean, looking at Deus and how Apostle Twins have control over half of a complete power, it seems straightforward. Plus Deus likely inherited both traits as he opened a hole in space and went back in time. He's likely to be the spawn of the 5th, with his time powers but unlocked the space trait over time.

Now it's the hardcore theory time. I'm guessing the Apostles from 9 through 12 represent Life, Death, Creation and Destruction. Nyx power implies that there might be a Numbered that controls Death. Lucius, Alexis and Deryl's power imply a Numbered who has power over creation. While this next one seems more out there and possibly under creation or even the 2nd, Power. Malik's power may imply Destruction exist. Meanwhile Briar has healing, so I'm guessing Life is also another out there. This is all just guess work. Even I'm not sure for these and they could easily go under the other sets of the known Apostles.


That said, we did learn that the 9th and 10th descendants follow the Lord of Dark/the 7th. I can possibly see those Numbered particularly representing something that aligns with Darkness. Those being Death and Destruction. So if we follow that thinking, maybe 9th = Death, while 10th = Destruction? That leaves 11th and 12th with Life and Creation. Or a combination of those 4. It's still a bit early so that's my view for now until I can think of more.


That's it for me. I'm still cooking and my brain still smoking from all of the info it has to process from this update. The above is still guess work so don't take it as me saying this true. Hell, I could've overlooked some other stuff along the way from this update. Even with stuff like the 5th and 8th. Have fun with speculating with this post being all out there. Anyway, Ella's post will be next since I already have my thoughts in order for her. I'll get to the 6 Arbiters later as it's somewhat straightforward that they're responsible for a set of twin Apostles each. The Origin possibly being one of them for the 3rd and 4th.

 

[King_In_Yellow]

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[lavilao]

Oh yeah, before I go into Ella. Might as well get the Numbered/Apostles out of the way. It's all still speculation.

- 1st = "The Authority" -

Spawns/Monsters:
Jake - 100%/1st Generation
Orang Minyak - ???
Minyaks - 50%/7th Generation
Kenny - ???

Possibly:
Demi's Monster - ???
Demi - ???
Charlie - ???
Zara - ???
Jill - ???

-- 2nd = "The Power" --

Spawns/Monsters:
Michael - 100%/1st Generation
Leigong - 58%/8th Generation

Possibly:
Klaus - ???
M37 Luz Mala - ???


--- 3rd = "The Body" ---

Spawns/Monsters:
Ella - 100%/1st Generation
MC - 100%(?)/1st Generation
Orang Minyaks - ???
Minyaks - 40%/7th Generation
Kenny - ???
Bailey - ???

Possibly:
Laurie - ???
Laurie's Monster - ???


---- 4th = "The Memory" ----

Spawns/Monsters:
MC - 100%/1st Generation
Sharon - ?%/ ? generation
Sharon's Monster - ?%/ ??? Generation


----- 5th = "Time"? -----

Spawns/Monsters:
Deus - ???
Zack - ???
Zack's Monster - ???

------ 6th = "The Ether" Space ------

Spawns/Monsters:
The Fairy - 100%/1st Generation
Alice - 100%?/2nd Generation
M33 Hex - ???
Nico - ???

Possibly:
Jill - ???


------- 7th = "The Dark" -------

Spawns/Monsters:
Valravn - 100%/1st Generation
Minyak - 10%/7th Generation

Possibly:
Aglaecwif

-------- 8th = "The Light"? --------

Spawns/Monsters:
Tiffany - 100%?/1st Generation
Clark - ???
Clark's Monster - ???

Possibly:
Danica - ???
M65 - Gestas - ???
Oscar - ???
M46 - Wepwawet - ???

9th = ?
10th = ?
11th = ?
12th = ?

If I filled in the blanks from this update then the 8th is most likely Light as Aglaecwif mentioned that only the 6th and 8th could reach their space by travel. The 6th makes sense because it control space itself while the 8th potentially being "Light" means it's speed is that of Light.

As for the 5th being Time, I mean, looking at Deus and how Apostle Twins have control over half of a complete power, it seems straightforward. Plus Deus likely inherited both traits as he opened a hole in space and went back in time. He's likely to be the spawn of the 5th, with his time powers but unlocked the space trait over time.

Now it's the hardcore theory time. I'm guessing the Apostles from 9 through 12 represent Life, Death, Creation and Destruction. Nyx power implies that there might be a Numbered that controls Death. Lucius, Alexis and Deryl's power imply a Numbered who has power over creation. While this next one seems more out there and possibly under creation or even the 2nd, Power. Malik's power may imply Destruction exist. Meanwhile Briar has healing, so I'm guessing Life is also another out there. This is all just guess work. Even I'm not sure for these and they could easily go under the other sets of the known Apostles.


That said, we did learn that the 9th and 10th descendants follow the Lord of Dark/the 7th. I can possibly see those Numbered particularly representing something that aligns with Darkness. Those being Death and Destruction. So if we follow that thinking, maybe 9th = Death, while 10th = Destruction? That leaves 11th and 12th with Life and Creation. Or a combination of those 4. It's still a bit early so that's my view for now until I can think of more.


That's it for me. I'm still cooking and my brain still smoking from all of the info it has to process from this update. The above is still guess work so don't take it as me saying this true. Hell, I could've overlooked some other stuff along the way from this update. Even with stuff like the 5th and 8th. Have fun with speculating with this post being all out there. Anyway, Ella's post will be next since I already have my thoughts in order for her. I'll get to the 6 Arbiters later as it's somewhat straightforward that they're responsible for a set of twin Apostles each. The Origin possibly being one of them for the 3rd and 4th.

You missed one:
---- 13th = "The Knowleage" ----
Spawns/Monsters:
DrakoGhoul - 100%?/1st Generation

 

[mrttao]

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Change your mind? fuck no... scoot over, I want to sit with you.

 

[vogelbeest]

Plus Deus likely inherited both traits as he opened a hole in space and went back in time.

Hmm... Actually Ella's goal seems to be creating (a) superhuman(s) with all 6 original powers... The reason why Jake and Ella failed is they did not get the power from both twins... If Deus has mastered an original power he will be high on Ella's list...
Collecting hearts and capturing twins to summon the Apostles permanently seems just another way to try and get the 6 powers of the Origins...

That said, we did learn that the 9th and 10th descendants follow the Lord of Dark/the 7th.

Then, there is the Lord of Dark. God Slayer. Apostle Devourer. It is often those originating from the ninth, the tenth and especially the seventh, that worship it, though thankfully I'm not so foolish."

(Aglaegwif also tells she's a spawn of either the 9th, the 10th or the 7th here.. Well, elsewhere in her text she implies being a spawn of one of the Apostles, here she just narrows it down...)

 

[vogelbeest]

The Origin possibly being one of them for the 3rd and 4th.

Seems to me the 6 Arbiters could be the same as 6 Origins.... It's more or less confirmed an Origin has 2 twin Apostles.

Female "Perhaps Order, would be the greatest power of all, taking the energy required to make full use of it out of the equation."
You "Order? What is that?"
Female "The power to command all things. To structure all things. To write the laws that govern the universe and to have both the Power and the Authority to enforce them."
Female "I've never personally met a being, human or monster that has acquired it since the origin, although..."
Female "I did, not long ago, hear talk of a potential inheritor, one your Ella had high hopes for. Though it seems to have ended in a failure. A weak mind can ruin even the greatest potential."

 

[bloodaxis]

Lucius, Alexis and Deryl's power imply a Numbered who has power over creation.

Deryl's progenitor is the Rebis who happens to be an apostle but an artificially created one through some kind of bio alchemy I'm guessing, so it seems as if it's one without a twin pair and could be outside the 12. Just speculation on where it fits in so far.
Very interested to see future updates if Lucius/Alexis happen to be spawns of monsters descended from the Rebis or what.

 

[King_In_Yellow]

Change your mind? fuck no... scoot over, I want to sit with you.

Let it be so, Brother, stay by my side and we wait
The others to be together to worship the Goddess Alice