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Eat monster (angela) corruption

Eat researcher (HERO) corruption, power

Eat Eric corruption, power

Eat farmer corruption, power

Kill AB, Kill Demi or kill Clover ?, kill Niki, kill Suicide Wang, say maybe when talking to Nyx at wedding...
All give corruption
Oh yeah ofc I do all of that too, I was just mentioning the heavy hitter choices. I DON'T kill Clover, Demi, or Nikk though because they are part of the harem and that's boring anyways. Suicide Wang I don't remember if he gives Corruption, but either way he stabbed me in prison with no gain so he dies. The farmer dies, monsters are eaten, researcher, Eric, etc.



3ish Things I need the COMMUNITY'S help on:

1. BESIDES CHEATING; is there ANY way to win the Valravn fight WITHOUT the Horn if you pick the Michael Power point? Other than the skill check obviously, because in order to do that you need the Michael Skill Point. So my question remains if I can still pick the Eye, the Michael Power Point, and still SOMEHOW get the Valravn fight done HONORABLY without Brianna's help.

2ish. Does Jake appear anywhere after you spare him other than at H.E.R.O along side Danica (if you spared her)? Like does he appear at the bonfire? Does Danica? Anyone know?

3. I can't remember, the only way to SAVE LAURIE is a skill check, 100% successful Deryl fight, and NOT meeting Alaeg right? Because Deryl has to trade with her to get the recovery serum. So no matter how I look at it, as much as I'd miss smashing her, I not only lose Laurie, but also power and skill, lore, AND the eye; because you can't choose everything.


I really don't see the benefit to going down her route other than a potential monster child cameo? That's it? Some lore drops that are more or less for YOUR info and can't even know ALL OF IT to begin with sooo I'm not seeing a lot of upsides. As a Harem Master this is the single worst choice in the game, as I have to pick between losing an already established character forever, or a potential recurring fling that I may or may not never see again.

That's why the last few Main Issues listed are the only thorn in my side, which could easily be resolved in the future, but maybe not...
 
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Aglaecwif was "born" in the monster world, according to Valravn. I'm not sure if she was infected, which seems unlikely in that world, or if she's directly made from the 4th.
Dunno if it would be any different, the fairy seems to be from another world too. We don't really know what world the Apostles are from, but it's likely it's the one we see during evolutions. But there could be many worlds that have been invaded...
Aglaecwif : I for example am worshiped by some, and I can tell you that I don't even exist in the same realm as the others I spoke of. Aglaecwif : It is in our nature to spread our genes, our traits, our powers. Infection is why we exist, it's how we exist, it the reason we've spread across the cosmos." Also : Aglaecwif calls MC a true son of an Apostle...


As for Aglaecwif parent, there a check :

if fmonster == True:
jump ellainvmonster4
else:
jump ellainvmonster3

So she is the same as MC, always...
 
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Oh yeah ofc I do all of that too, I was just mentioning the heavy hitter choices. I DON'T kill Clover, Demi, or Nikk though because they are part of the harem and that's boring anyways. Suicide Wang I don't remember if he gives Corruption, but either way he stabbed me in prison with no gain so he dies. The farmer dies, monsters are eaten, researcher, Eric, etc.



3ish Things I need the COMMUNITY'S help on:

1. BESIDES CHEATING; is there ANY way to win the Valravn fight WITHOUT the Horn if you pick the Michael Power point? Other than the skill check obviously, because in order to do that you need the Michael Skill Point. So my question remains if I can still pick the Eye, the Michael Power Point, and still SOMEHOW get the Valravn fight done HONORABLY without Brianna's help.

2ish. Does Jake appear anywhere after you spare him other than at H.E.R.O along side Danica (if you spared her)? Like does he appear at the bonfire? Does Danica? Anyone know?

3. I can't remember, the only way to SAVE LAURIE is a skill check, 100% successful Deryl fight, and NOT meeting Alaeg right? Because Deryl has to trade with her to get the recovery serum. So no matter how I look at it, as much as I'd miss smashing her, I not only lose Laurie, but also power and skill, lore, AND the eye; because you can't choose everything.


I really don't see the benefit to going down her route other than a potential monster child cameo? That's it? Some lore drops that are more or less for YOUR info and can't even know ALL OF IT to begin with sooo I'm not seeing a lot of upsides. As a Harem Master this is the single worst choice in the game, as I have to pick between losing an already established character forever, or a potential recurring fling that I may or may not never see again.

That's why the last few Main Issues listed are the only thorn in my side, which could easily be resolved in the future, but maybe not...
1. I’m unsure on something I’ve been curious about too. I vaguely remember seeing that there’s more power available on NTR liz route might give it a try whilst we’re waiting for next update will report back if I do (and nobody else replies with a way before then lol)

2. Jake does show up at the bonfire, he helps you fix Mia and she walks away in disgust and says she never wants to see Jake again after her memory is restored but she doesn’t seem mad at MC unlike on the eat Jake path, could matter for if you want future Mia scenes?

3. It’s an either or on Aglae and Laurie yes, no way to do both without cheats which sucks, we’ll have to wait for future updates to see which path gets more/any content obviously but my guess is any of the child stuff will be the largely the same whether it’s MC’s baby or Deryls to save work for WW. Same for the lore stuff, will be just for world building like the library stuff where it doesn’t really matter which you choose just choose what interests you. Could lead to too many branching otherwise paths which is always bad for business in these games and something WW has done well to avoid so far whilst still making choices matter. Assume any future Aglae scenes require will you to have gone left though and obviously Laurie scenes will need to go right. Probably be like Jake/Danica and the other potential victims currently are where they aren’t that important to the story since their potential deaths but still pop up every now and then.
 
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Dunno if it would be any different, the fairy seems to be from another world too. We don't really know what world the Apostles are from, but it's likely it's the one we see during evolutions. But there could be many worlds that have been invaded...
Aglaecwif : I for example am worshiped by some, and I can tell you that I don't even exist in the same realm as the others I spoke of. Aglaecwif : It is in our nature to spread our genes, our traits, our powers. Infection is why we exist, it's how we exist, it the reason we've spread across the cosmos." Also : Aglaecwif calls MC a true son of an Apostle...


As for Aglaecwif parent, there a check :

if fmonster == True:
jump ellainvmonster4
else:
jump ellainvmonster3

So she is the same as MC, always...
How would that prove she's always the same? Doesn't that just refer to what the MC himself is for that scene. If I recall correctly, similar checks are there at the start of the game, after choosing the 4th. Might even be for the Fairy scene, Evolution to 2nd level and Valravn scene as well.

Even with that, what happens in the actual scene makes it questionable. Why would she say that with the 3rd but flat out say Our Great Lord only with the 4th?
 
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1. I’m unsure on something I’ve been curious about too. I vaguely remember seeing that there’s more power available on NTR liz route might give it a try whilst we’re waiting for next update will report back if I do (and nobody else replies with a way before then lol)

2. Jake does show up at the bonfire, he helps you fix Mia and she walks away in disgust and says she never wants to see Jake again after her memory is restored but she doesn’t seem mad at MC unlike on the eat Jake path, could matter for if you want future Mia scenes?

3. It’s an either or on Aglae and Laurie yes, no way to do both without cheats which sucks, we’ll have to wait for future updates to see which path gets more/any content obviously but my guess is any of the child stuff will be the largely the same whether it’s MC’s baby or Deryls to save work for WW. Same for the lore stuff, will be just for world building like the library stuff where it doesn’t really matter which you choose just choose what interests you. Could lead to too many branching otherwise paths which is always bad for business in these games and something WW has done well to avoid so far whilst still making choices matter. Assume any future Aglae scenes require will you to have gone left though and obviously Laurie scenes will need to go right. Probably be like Jake/Danica and the other potential victims currently are where they aren’t that important to the story since their potential deaths but still pop up every now and then.
It mostly definitely will matter if you ate Jake or not. Despite what he did to her she still remembers all the good times they had and I believe she realizes just how bad the MC is (no clue if the memories of MC killing Jake flows into her or not idk dont remember the scene too well).

Eating Jake effectively (probably) puts a nail in any future Mia romance options (and probably interactions period). If we do get to talk to her again if we ate him she'll most likely be standoffish as hell (shit if we see her get powers she might be against MC enough to attack him).
 
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The withdrawal is clóse i can feel it already so i'm just gonna start doing this because i'm an asshole
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2ish. Does Jake appear anywhere after you spare him other than at H.E.R.O along side Danica (if you spared her)? Like does he appear at the bonfire? Does Danica? Anyone know?
Danica appears too, she meets Mc at Hero's base and they talk a little, she seems annoyed for the blade through the chest and being blinded but otherwise they are quite civil to each other.
For now i don't think the people Mc eats will make a lot of difference but i imagine it will matter to the end, considering how eye guy mentions Kenny, Danica and Jake during the 3 evolution (also Bailey).

It mostly definitely will matter if you ate Jake or not. Despite what he did to her she still remembers all the good times they had and I believe she realizes just how bad the MC is (no clue if the memories of MC killing Jake flows into her or not idk dont remember the scene too well).

Eating Jake effectively (probably) puts a nail in any future Mia romance options (and probably interactions period). If we do get to talk to her again if we ate him she'll most likely be standoffish as hell (shit if we see her get powers she might be against MC enough to attack him).
But that is something i think will bring more immediate changes, Mc already thought that Mia wouldn't forgive him for killing Jake just after their fight if i'm not mistaken, seems like a closed route for me regarding Mia if you kill the guy.
 

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If we do get to talk to her again if we ate him she'll most likely be standoffish as hell (shit if we see her get powers she might be against MC enough to attack him).
All I'm going to say is, Demi learned real quick about why that's a bad idea. The gap is way larger now.
 

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Oh yeah ofc I do all of that too, I was just mentioning the heavy hitter choices. I DON'T kill Clover, Demi, or Nikk though because they are part of the harem and that's boring anyways. Suicide Wang I don't remember if he gives Corruption, but either way he stabbed me in prison with no gain so he dies. The farmer dies, monsters are eaten, researcher, Eric, etc.



3ish Things I need the COMMUNITY'S help on:

1. BESIDES CHEATING; is there ANY way to win the Valravn fight WITHOUT the Horn if you pick the Michael Power point? Other than the skill check obviously, because in order to do that you need the Michael Skill Point. So my question remains if I can still pick the Eye, the Michael Power Point, and still SOMEHOW get the Valravn fight done HONORABLY without Brianna's help.

2ish. Does Jake appear anywhere after you spare him other than at H.E.R.O along side Danica (if you spared her)? Like does he appear at the bonfire? Does Danica? Anyone know?

3. I can't remember, the only way to SAVE LAURIE is a skill check, 100% successful Deryl fight, and NOT meeting Alaeg right? Because Deryl has to trade with her to get the recovery serum. So no matter how I look at it, as much as I'd miss smashing her, I not only lose Laurie, but also power and skill, lore, AND the eye; because you can't choose everything.


I really don't see the benefit to going down her route other than a potential monster child cameo? That's it? Some lore drops that are more or less for YOUR info and can't even know ALL OF IT to begin with sooo I'm not seeing a lot of upsides. As a Harem Master this is the single worst choice in the game, as I have to pick between losing an already established character forever, or a potential recurring fling that I may or may not never see again.

That's why the last few Main Issues listed are the only thorn in my side, which could easily be resolved in the future, but maybe not...
I did a full power speedrun with choices from memory and some walkthrough lookups, without consuming Jake/Danica. Probably not the most optimized but I doubt I'd get different results because eating danica and jake doesn't increase power and afaik the corruption-locked choices only increase corruption, not power.

1) I managed to get 73 Power without Horn and 18 Skill. This isn't enough to unlock Valravn respect. You need the Horn.
2) Jake appears briefly during a phone call, Laurie goes after him when she gets her memories back, and he helps restore Mia's memories during the bonfire. Danica appears once during a conversation with Michael, and there is a dream h-scene if you choose to take a nap during a lesson.
3) To save Laurie you need to avoid Aglaec, choose to Hestitate against Hydra Deryl, choose to Break the Diamon Sword and have 28+ Skill. You also need to make all the choices that don't end in a deadend (obviously). This is achievable without choosing skill against Michael in the early game.

Stats by the end of current version (0.951): Power 310 / Skill 29 / Corruption 32
Choice priority: Power > Corruption = Skill. Killed pretty much everyone except Jake, Danica and Demi. Saved Laurie. Got Horn from shopkeep. No helmet. Eaten Baley.
 
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I did a full power speedrun with choices from memory and some walkthrough lookups, without consuming Jake/Danica. Probably not the most optimized but I doubt I'd get different results because eating danica and jake doesn't increase power and afaik the corruption-locked choices only increase corruption, not power.

1) I managed to get 73 Power without Horn and 18 Skill. This isn't enough to unlock Valravn respect. You need the Horn.
2) Jake appears briefly during a phone call, Laurie goes after him when she gets her memories back, and he helps restore Mia's memories during the bonfire. Danica appears once during a conversation with Michael, and there is a dream h-scene if you choose to take a nap during a lesson.
3) To save Laurie you need to avoid Aglaec, choose to Hestitate against Hydra Deryl, choose to Break the Diamon Sword and have 28+ Skill. You also need to make all the choices that don't end in a deadend (obviously). This is achievable without choosing skill against Michael in the early game.

Stats by the end of current version (0.951): Power 310 / Skill 29 / Corruption 32
Choice priority: Power > Corruption = Skill. Killed pretty much everyone except Jake, Danica and Demi. Saved Laurie. Got Horn from shopkeep. No helmet. Eaten Baley.
Yeah my route will literally ONLY depend on whether or not I see the Eye getting any use down the line, if it doesn't and just acts as an extra choice for Aglaecwif; then I'm sticking to the Horn.

My new route based on everyone's help (thank you fellow degenerates of Corruption):

1. Michael Power Point
2. Eat Kenny
3. Eat Danica
4. Eat Bailey (when asked)
5. Eat/Kill anyone I can't fuck later on, or is Male (I'm totally sexist)
6. Take the Horn (Eye could be switched in at the cost of Kenny Consumption)
7. Beat Valravn via Power
8. Save Laurie (If the future Aglaecwif scenes are worth it and I don't see much of Laurie, I'll switch)

Concerns:
1. Future Eye use
2. Future Aglaecwif scenes
 

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How would that prove she's always the same? Doesn't that just refer to what the MC himself is for that scene. If I recall correctly, similar checks are there at the start of the game, after choosing the 4th. Might even be for the Fairy scene, Evolution to 2nd level and Valravn scene as well.
Yeah, you are correct, there's 2 possibilities (got some sudden brain activity)
Either she has the same parent, this is based on the assumption in both cases she is talking about MC and her...

Or her parent is the fourth and talks about our lord (MC and her) or she points out Ella and MC sharing the 3rd as parent.

There's been similar checks yeah, always to get the text based on what parent MC has.
Ella has the third, that's a given. MC can have the third or the fourth...

Whatever Aglaecwif says there is always the condition "too/also" meaning there is another, so either Ella or Aglaecwif.
The text there seems open to more than one possibility...
 

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Quick question. Does the male MC turn into a trap/futa/transgender? If so, I'll just skip this one.
Page 1, orange letters : (for some parts of the story you are a female or futa however... but this is not the usual transformation game)

Weird fetish stuff like trap, ntr, whatever, is optional


I would suggest you try it anyway, the story really is great and sex is not the main focus. The art might need some getting used to, and it evolves...
But either way this is one of the better games if you like this type of fantasy... (not sexual fantasy to be clear )
 
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So I decided to replay the game following 3 different paths, Power, Skill and Corruption.
Of course as most of you know by now, the most important choice is the arena fight with Michael.

Power vs Corruption:
Power and Corruption playthroughs go hand in hand. They both get unlocked by choosing power against Michael. The only difference between them is if you decide to consume the optional characters or not.

Both playthroughs have the option to consume Kenny. If you consume Danica you can have enough corruption to force the Myniak to submit. There doesn't seem to be any check for eating Danica or Jake.

The difference between a Power and Corruption walkthrough is 4 corruption points (32 vs 36). You can also gain one more corruption point if you kill Demi.

Frankly, high corruption score at the moment doesn't do anything. The only indication that something is happening is if you consume Jake because the MC can "hear" him during certain scenes, but this scene happens no matter how much corruption you have.

The Power and/or Corruption route requires the Horn to gain Valravn's respect. The highest power I could get was 73.

Skill:

The skill playthrough stays 1 skill ahead, 3 Power behind and 5 corruption behind a full power & corruption playthrough. The player trades the capability to eat Kenny and trigger Ella's deadend sex scene for the capability to get Valravn's respect without the Horn.

Currently there is no other benefit to the high Skill playthrough, especially for those who want to save Laurie. Perhaps the eye may become useful in a future update. The 28 skill check against Monster Deryl just requires the player to have finished all side stories before going to the mall as most of them come from the cheerleading practice.

So this is my opinion for the various playthroughs:
High Skill & Care about Laurie -> Not worth it.
High Skill & Not Care about Laurie -> Worth it.
High Power & Low Corruption -> Worth it.
High Corruption without eating Danica/Jake -> Works exactly the same as High Power & Low Corruption
High Corruption with eating Danica/Jake -> The only way to get corruption specific scenes. Currently not worth it but it's the most likely playthrough to get major changes in the future.

Simplest way to mod the game and get the most bang for your buck as of current version -> Use the console to increase skill and power by 1. This change allows you to play however you want up to the Aglaec vs Save Laurie choice.



Quick question. Does the male MC turn into a trap/futa/transgender? If so, I'll just skip this one.
MC uses his female form mostly for practical purposes, like going undercover, and it doesn't happen that often. If you actively pursue it, you can get a few scenes as either futa or female. Most of them are Female on Female or Futa on Female, but there are a few where MC has sex with males.
 
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About (ides) Aglaecwif :
"Ides aglæcwif" is an Old English phrase that roughly translates to "evil witch" in modern English. (chatgpt)

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Makes you wonder how much of this story we will see back. WW clearly likes to bring old myths into the world of superhuman. We already know we can expect the son coming for you, (or Deryl) but could Ella in dragonform be the third antagonist? Anyway, Beowulf dies after the last fight (the dragon), so it's more about the myth itself being used then a prediction for the story..
 

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Hey all, got a question. Does anyone know what exactly happened with Ella right at the end of the fight before Nyx shows up and says some version of "you're taking to long" to Malik and Nico? Something like red lightning is shown and she crumples to her knees? I didn't quite get that, was that her powering up and failing or did she get hit with something?
 

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Hey all, got a question. Does anyone know what exactly happened with Ella right at the end of the fight before Nyx shows up and says some version of "you're taking to long" to Malik and Nico? Something like red lightning is shown and she crumples to her knees? I didn't quite get that, was that her powering up and failing or did she get hit with something?
Hmh, now that I look back at that "you're taking too long" line, maybe she's saying out loud to Nyx to hurry up, not sure what the red lightning is though, maybe just her overexerting herself or something, or preparing for being "killed" by Nyx.
 
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Hey all, got a question. Does anyone know what exactly happened with Ella right at the end of the fight before Nyx shows up and says some version of "you're taking to long" to Malik and Nico? Something like red lightning is shown and she crumples to her knees? I didn't quite get that, was that her powering up and failing or did she get hit with something?
We can't exactly know because most things in this scene are new information without follow through. However there are a few theories. This particular scene was very interesting to me so I can tell you my theory.

First things first:
The red color is Ella's expression of power.

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So in my view, the most accurate way to read that scene is that "she tries to summon her power but for some reason, it fails and she drops to her knees".

What happens next is that Nyx shows up and hits her with her ability "Negative Energy: Death" which is supposed to instantly kill anything that it touches. It's like Avanda Kedavra from Harry Potter. This is explained later by Malik.

However there is a problem here:

In the few next slides it's revealed that Ella already has a huge amount of body mass hidden underground and she is able to make it even bigger, so it seems that her momentary weakness was either a fluke, or some suppressing power or event that we don't know about.

What I think happened:

Ella has already finished whatever she wanted to do in the mine so she sets up a plan to leave HERO a parting gift. Her plan is to control Malik/Bernhardt with strength eaters, mark HERO operatives and then flee while sacrificing the weaker monsters. She had already given the command to retreat by the time MC finishes his fight with Deryl.

She sees Nico and decides that it's a good idea to kill her before retreating. However she takes too long and Malik manages to free himself and after killing literally everything, he goes after Ella.

Ella is in a bind. She knows that it's impossible to flee from Malik and Nico together, so her best strategy is to attack and create some opening that will allow her to flee. So she powers up and prepares to attack. But at that moment she sees Nyx coming, and she decides to change her strategy.

It's possible that she finds a perfect chance to fake her death. After all, she has shown that she has intimate knowledge of Nyx's powers so knowing about her Negative Energy: Death is to be expected.

Another possibility is that Nyx and Ella have some kind of deal so Nyx "kills" her but plans to resurrect her, or know that she has some trick up her sleeve.
 
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Another possibility is that Nyx and Ella have some kind of deal so Nyx "kills" her but plans to resurrect her, or know that she has some trick up her sleeve.
Imo the biggest clue that Ella and Nyx are doing something together is the added scene in the public build where you try to read her "corpse", and conveniently Nyx's residual power prevents _anyone_ from reading the corpse, meaning that she can easily just have suspended herself in a corpse like state.
 
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