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I have a hard time understanding your idea behind how the gravitational waves would be used, because depending on the event, the frequency is different. I find the notion that Alice operates "naturally" at the correct frequency a bit odd. I would understand if the sphere itself sent gravitational waves that resonate with the barrier but I think that would seriously fuck up the people behind her (thus why I think she actually created something different this time around). It would be like Nico summoning the sun.
Edit: Although now that I think about it, Alice's gravity is magically precise and confined so the point about fucking up the people behind her is probably wrong.
Does she choose to operate at a certain frequency or is it always the same? Cause the latter would sound way too restrictive or a coincidence even. Could you elaborate a bit on the mechanics because it seems that I don't get it.
Also the hole in Hex's barrier could hardly be described as building-sized. It's at least as large as a mountain.
I could get behind your argument for mass and energy not being twins. It's Mass & Structure, which would be a great parallel to your idea of Gravity & Space or Celestial & Space. The reason I don't do it is because I believe 8th to be Light. I think that Time is more fundamental than whatever is reserved for 9th to 12th, so it's the most likely candidate for the 5th Apostle.
In any case Ether would be a poor word for celestial objects.
Ether as the 5th element, would be the building block of ANYTHING you can see in the sky during the night. (I'm not sure about Sun, it could be Fire, it could be Ether, I don't know the theory that well). But you have to take into account that Aristotle didn't know what lied beyond Earth. For example he thought that the things in the sky (like the stars) were unchanging. At this point I'm out of my depth but to help you understand it a bit better:
Think of the word "ethereal" as in "ethereal beauty". It means a combination of "otherwordly", "intangible", "delicate" and "unique".
Other uses of the word is the air as in "airplane traveling through the ether", or if you are religious enough to do the mental gymnastics "the intangible thing in the sky who created us all".
If I had to use it to describe some celestial phenomenon, that would be some galactic haze or some funny looking dust. These kinds of things which are not very clearly defined.
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I'm not saying that you are attacking gravity (haha). I'm saying that you are introducing more concepts to the Space portfolio than necessary. (And keep in mind that I think Alice is the descendant of the 6th, and gravity is the portfolio of the 6th)
The way I see it, space has to do with manipulating spatial dimensions. The three related powers that we can easily observe are:
Folding of Space | Wormholes - Nico and Hexenringe
Curving of Space | Gravity - Alice
Folded (Pocket) Dimensions - Hexenringe
The monster trait provides the energy required, and the monster/superhuman acts directly on the dimensions. The curving/folding is the goal. Like MC's power's goal is matter and structure. MC can cause both gravity and magnetic effects if he wants to and has enough power. But the point of his power is creating matter and decoding structure, not the effects that this matter and structure will cause.
Alice can obviously create effects that have to do with kinetic energy (and quite different that what we would expect by just gravitational forces), but the point of her powers is the curving of space which can be used to create these effects. The problem here is that magnetospheres are the result of a celestial body's magnetic field, which is the result of the properties found in it's liquid core and it's spin. Alice can't create or structure matter, so I don't see how that would work.
Of course it's not my game and you could be absolutely right, but I really need to observe an effect that can only be explained by a magnetosphere to even entertain the notion that it's connected.
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On plasma hitting the sphere:
A black hole would suck in whatever projectile. But Alice's fists are not black holes. They are concentrated gravity, which could have a protective veil of air around it, and could also have a spin to somewhat help with heat. The projectile could split and move around the orb, influenced by gravity.
The beam would need a lot of force to travel in a straight line, break the veil and hit her fists directly, and at this point we know that these fist orbs are fucking powerful. Why they are so powerful I don't know, but while magnetic forces tend to be stronger than gravitational onces, the gravitational pull of a planet can be stronger than it's magnetic pull, so if there is some parallel based on the behavior of celestial objects, it doesn't necessary mean that the magnetic field would be stronger.
Additionally, the fact that Alice would have to create a stellar mass equivalent of gravity doesn't really matter. The same amount of energy would be needed, no matter if the energy was gravitational or magnetic. If the gravity would create problems for everyone, so would the magnetic field.
Edit: although admittedly, magnetic effects are would probably be more confined than gravitational ones.
But I will conceide the point that the narrator uses the word "deflection", and a magnetic field would be the best fit. I will note that the beam would have to follow the magnetic field's lines, not necessarily curve around the orb. I can't picture how exactly it would look in practice and if the scene depicts it accurately.
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On lightning:
I tried to find if a lightning bolt's path would be affected by a magnetic field, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Technically speaking, a strong gravitational pull could pull a bolt into orbit but of course it would have to be extreme.
Edit: some corrections.
Edit2: It's important to note here that there is a serious "magical" angle when it comes to Alice's power. As I understand it, gravity cannot be confined, so even the relatively small effects would instantly be felt by pretty much everyone in the vicinity (and possibly on the planet). My compressed air theory may be able to explain the explosive power of her punches, but if it happened in reality, the effect would be comical. However, since we've seen her being capable of concentrating a gravity "beam" to pull Deryl's chimera towards her, it's safe to assume that she has absolute control over gravity, way more than physics can explain.
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