VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Dipasimaan]

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sorry i forgot

 

[Dipasimaan]

so has anyone seen what changes from the beta to the public version for this update apart from the bug fixes?

 

[lg545]

Have a couple questions:
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1)Why people are so adamant about MC would get his 4 lvl evolution in near future?

I mean, from what i understand so far, evolutions is not something you can just fast ride in couple weeks.
For MC It took several months of hard training (before and after he join HERO), numerous boss fights where his life was in grave danger to get on lvl 3 evolution...But here is a thing - MC did not receive a natural evolution, but rather he get kinda RAW version of Xsante serum during his fight against Deryl
Same stay true for Alice - she bust her ass at same pace as MC did...and it took MONTHS just to get on lvl 2
If i understand correctly - with each new evolution, it would harder to get new one. So while we are nooby lvl 3...well, it would take a lot time (mayby even ingame years) for MC to evolve on stage 4
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2) Why people are so hostile against HERO as organisation?

I mean, it has clear goals (yeah, they have shady side to them, but tell me who have not?), enough resources and they already proof to be reliable (i mean they exist for several decades and during this time nothing bad was happened. Even resent coming out was forced by rapid grow of monster activity)

On contrast, SIN:

1)Swarm Earth with hordes of monsters (rapid grow of monster activity is their fault)
2)Prepare army of obedient (thanks to oath's and tatoos) super soldiers made from former soldiers and mercenaries
3) Kidnap twins
4)Bullshiting everyone that they are about "freedom and equality" (and another revolution propaganda. Yep. Guys like Langdon fight for freedom. What a joke) while in reality they not that much different from HERO in terms of organisation structure
etc

 

[Alandir]

-I wonder if Emily's conversation with the MC towards the end is foreshadowing mayhem within the harem soon enough. Who it would be, I would have to take a swing at Emily and Alice.

Do we have any girl that hasn't shown acceptance with sharing mc in some way or another.
Alice had that threesome with tess and if tess worlds are correct, she's not only ok with it, but is actively into it. Tess is pretty obvious. Jess also had a threesome with tess.
Emily seems okay from her words during the confession, plus her foursome with Christie and ella. Liz and Amber had a threesome and Amber didn't seem especially upset that mc slept with her friend.
Clover and the small white haired one are actively sharing mc. (Her/his name just doesn't come to mind currently).
Angelina seems the only one who hasn't participated in some kind of threesome, but you can tell her that you have a girlfriend and she's okay with it.
So I don't really see any huge drama coming up.
Maybe Amber could be temporarily upset that she's sharing mc with more girls than just Liz. But other than that I don't see much drama.
Alice has the whole thing where she thinks she's a bad girlfriend, so maybe there could be some sort of development where it turns out she was only pretending to be OK with it during the tess threesome to be a 'good girlfriend' and was actually jealous the whole time, but I severely doubt that's going to happen.

 

[DeuSJS]

bruh


truer words have never been spoken.

 

[Dipasimaan]

1)Why people are so adamant about MC would get his 4 lvl evolution in near future?

I mean, from what i understand so far, evolutions is not something you can just fast ride in couple weeks.
For MC It took several months of hard training (before and after he join HERO), numerous boss fights where his life was in grave danger to get on lvl 3 evolution...But here is a thing - MC did not receive a natural evolution, but rather he get kinda RAW version of Xsante serum during his fight against Deryl
Same stay true for Alice - she bust her ass at same pace as MC did...and it took MONTHS just to get on lvl 2
If i understand correctly - with each new evolution, it would harder to get new one. So while we are nooby lvl 3...well, it would take a lot time (mayby even ingame years) for MC to evolve on stage 4

That's not quite true. In fact we have several known people who just rushed to the 5th (Henri, the clown one) or simply were very adaptive and compatible, like Ella till the 4th, Danica to her 2nd and more. How much time does it take and how to evolve isn't really entirely known to anyone (even Ella, from the top of her knowledge provided by several monsters and apostles, doesn't actually know when or how the MC will evolve). And the concept of "natural" evolution is pretty vast and not really that precise and factual, I mean our third evolution was provided and accepted by the arbiterer itself and Xanthe insist that it was artificial only because we were exposed to a monstrous (pun intended) amount of monster material.

 

[DeuSJS]

Shittttt works for me. I love 'practical' female armor ong. What I truly hunger for tho is MC shapeshifting into armor for Michael bro would basically resemble a fucking space marine.

There is nothing I want to see more in this story than more of Michael being a badass. Him killing the crystal monster and calling down literal monster Jesus was the peak so far.

 

[lg545]

That's not quite true. In fact we have several known people who just rushed to the 5th (Henri, the clown one) or simply were very adaptive and compatible, like Ella till the 4th, Danica to her 2nd and more. How much time does it take and how to evolve isn't really entirely known to anyone (even Ella, from the top of her knowledge provided by several monsters and apostles, doesn't actually know when or how the MC will evolve). And the concept of "natural" evolution is pretty vast and not really that precise and factual, I mean our third evolution was provided and accepted by the arbiterer itself and Xanthe insist that it was artificial only because we were exposed to a monstrous (pun intended) amount of monster material.

Yet for Ella herself it take a decade to reach lvl5
Thing is MC must reach lvl 4 natural way (he cant cheat with serum this time)

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Yet for Ella herself it take a decade to reach lvl5
Thing is MC must reach lvl 4 natural way (he cant cheat with serum this time)

Where did you read that? The decade part I mean. Ella has only had her powers for about 6 to 7 years. She was turned into a Superhuman at 14, she's currently 21. She also said she's been stuck at Level 4 for years so she either reached it pretty early on at 15 to 16(meaning only a year or 2 after gaining powers) or did it at 17 to 19 leading into the start of the game(3 to 5 years). Her Level 5 itself was via a stolen serum she got from infiltrating HERO with Jake.

Alexis has a similar case of reaching Level 4 in the span of being superhuman for 5 years. She was infected at 23 and is currently 28. So anywhere between those 5 years, she reached Level 4. She also took the serum and reached Level 5.

Nico is likely similar as well. She reached Level 3 at the same speed as the MC, being only a couple months after getting her powers. Depending on how old she is and when she received her power, she likely only took about a year or 2 to reach Level 4. This is before she also took a serum to reach Level 5.

Natural Evolution happens when it wants to. There's no set period or even a required amount of time that needs to pass. Danica reached Level 2 in a few days after becoming a Superhuman. The MC himself could've reached Level 2 a week or so after getting his power too but he didn't know what the dark growth was and resisted it.

 

[lg545]

Where did you read that? The decade part I mean. Ella has only had her powers for about 6 to 7 years. She was turned into a Superhuman at 14, she's currently 21. She also said she's been stuck at Level 4 for years so she either reached it pretty early on at 15 to 16(meaning only a year or 2 after gaining powers) or did it at 17 to 19 leading into the start of the game(3 to 5 years). Her Level 5 itself was via a stolen serum she got from infiltrating HERO with Jake.

Alexis has a similar case of reaching Level 4 in the span of being superhuman for 5 years. She was infected at 23 and is currently 28. So anywhere between those 5 years, she reached Level 4. She also took the serum and reached Level 5.

Nico is likely similar as well. She reached Level 3 at the same speed as the MC, being only a couple months after getting her powers. Depending on how old she is and when she received her power, she likely only took about a year or 2 to reach Level 4. This is before she also took a serum to reach Level 5.

Natural Evolution happens when it wants to. There's no set period or even a required amount of time that needs to pass. Danica reached Level 2 in a few days after becoming a Superhuman. The MC himself could've reached Level 2 a week or so after getting his power too but he didn't know what the dark growth was and resisted it.

1.Seven years - does not really matter. Thing is - this is shitload of time and she has all resources (monsters) imaginable. Still need to steal serum. MC would get lvl 4 couple weeks after he evolve on lvl 3 out nothing? Dont forget that after that Xsante could help him evolve to lvl 5 with his serum. Sound little bit cheap to me
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2. And for how long Nico stuck on lvl 3? I mean if it so easy to get lvl 4...Well she already become top 1 HERO agent in whole organisation

 

[Dipasimaan]

1.Seven years - does not really matter. Thing is - this is shitload of time and she has all resources (monsters) imaginable. Still need to steal serum. MC would get lvl 4 couple weeks after he evolve on lvl 3 out nothing? Dont forget that after that Xsante could help him evolve to lvl 5 with his serum. Sound little bit cheap to me

Well the 5th evolution is stated multiple times to be very special, limited and needs some specific requirements that noone knows for certain. Getting the MC to lv 4 in just a couple of weeks is doable and justifiable because he's very compatible to his monster parent and has a really special link to the Eye, but apart from this WW could still do it like next update, making some in-game pass so it doesn't totally matter

 

[Dipasimaan]

2. And for how long Nico stuck on lvl 3? I mean if it so easy to get lvl 4...Well she already become top 1 HERO agent in whole organisation

ok this is a little more complicated because we have to understand that Nico's powers are more supportive and defensive than offensive so she can't do like the MC who just has to defeat some people and that's it (I clearly oversimplified it to evidence the difference more clearer), so we can't really tell what Nico has to do to evolve unlike many more people that we know having a physical power.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

1.Seven years - does not really matter. Thing is - this is shitload of time and she has all resources (monsters) imaginable. Still need to steal serum. MC would get lvl 4 couple weeks after he evolve on lvl 3 out nothing? Dont forget that after that Xsante could help him evolve to lvl 5 with his serum. Sound little bit cheap to me
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2. And for how long Nico stuck on lvl 3? I mean if it so easy to get lvl 4...Well she already become top 1 HERO agent in whole organisation

1. 7 years does matter because you specifically claimed it took her a decade(10 years) when she hasn't even had her power for that long. We also have another character in game that only had their power for about 4 years who reached Level 4. That being Ella's Lieutenant, Shen, who's 17. Depending on when it reached Level 3, that's possibly faster than Ella.

2. We don't know Nico's age to get a proper gauge, hence why I said it's likely similar to Ella and Alexis. She's also not "top 1" in HERO. Her and Lexi also would've had to reach Level 4 naturally since Xanthe serum wasn't created until recently when Lexi herself took it for the first time during Ella's park fight to reach Level 5.

Like I said earlier, there's no set time for when an evolution happens. Henri reached Level 5 from Level 1 over a couple days, naturally. Danica reached Level 2 in a few days after becoming a superhuman. Nico reached Level 3 in only a couple months after getting her powers. Everyone's natural evolution comes when it's ready.

It's not even like it's impossible for MC to reach Level 4 in a few weeks. I don't see it happening that fast, personally, but it's not impossible. I also don't think it would "feel cheap" if he did. He's an Apostle Spawn with both traits of the most powerful monsters in game. If MC evolves, then it was time for him to evolve. There's nothing in the plot that says it can't happen. In fact, it said the very opposite and it indeed could happen.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

ok this is a little more complicated because we have to understand that Nico's powers are more supportive and defensive than offensive so she can't do like the MC who just has to defeat some people and that's it (I clearly oversimplified it to evidence the difference more clearer), so we can't really tell what Nico has to do to evolve unlike many more people that we know having a physical power.

Nico said she evolved to Level 3 while in a fight, the same as MC.

 

[RogueEagle]

Real question is, will the turned to tree dude ever be reverted back to normal, he was a cool stagnated Superhuman...
To go out like that...

 

[lg545]

Well the 5th evolution is stated multiple times to be very special, limited and needs some specific requirements that noone knows for certain. Getting the MC to lv 4 in just a couple of weeks is doable and justifiable because he's very compatible to his monster parent and has a really special link to the Eye, but apart from this WW could still do it like next update, making some in-game pass so it doesn't totally matter

Well, from writing stand point each evolution lvl up should feel like we earn it
I get this feeling with lvl2 and i get this feeling with lvl3 (after fights against Jake, Deryl, several tough monsters in between, Valvaran, hardcore training and huge all-out war against monsters)
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But lvl 4 in first tough battle? This sound cheap to me

 

[Dipasimaan]

Nico said she evolved to Level 3 while in a fight, the same as MC.

I didn't remember it but btw I didn't say that she can't evolve through combat I simply stated the nature of her power and from doing so I said that she hasn't a simple set method to evolve

 

[Dipasimaan]

Well, from writing stand point each evolution lvl up should feel like we earn it
I get this feeling with lvl2 and i get this feeling with lvl3 (after fights against Jake, Deryl, several tough monsters in between, Valvaran, hardcore training and huge all-out war against monsters)
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But lvl 4 in first tough battle? This sound cheap to me

Well I mean, MC's first evolution could have been achieved way before the klaus' fight just because he grew in size so it doesn't actually matter what is happening for the MC to evolve. Most importantly WW would probably achieve to sell someone shit for how much he's good at writing so it depends mostly on how it's written than how many months or years have passed

 

[Dipasimaan]

Btw guys do you perhaps know how many Unknown tier there are?

 

[RogueEagle]

Btw guys do you perhaps know how many Unknown tier there are?

You mean S tiers that give powers? See how many powers you've seen so far and multiply it to "unknown", aka nobody knows xD

If someone says they know the exact number, chances are they are fooling you.