Gtdead

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As for Dead Ends, I touched on that as well. Mostly the Nico specific one. MC loses too much for not fighting the Asura for it not to mean anything. It's probably not going to be as severe as I believe it to be. At least, it wouldn't lead into an immediate dead end but likely sets up one in the next update.

Another Dead End would be Cole. While I'm confident current MC can beat him, I feel WW isn't going to make it that easy. Realistically, from what we've seen of Cole and his power, MC completely counters him. Now you might be wondering how it would lead to a dead end then and I would say Cole may secretly have a trump card in his power kit. That or he Evolves mid fight and that leads to one, if we're too cocky.

Killing too many people. I feel like there's going to be bait kills next update. Basically, like the Charlie one but with Ella's Lieutenants and other important people. Jared might not escape his death next update but he might wound the MC with some secret weapon Xanthe's son developed that leads to a dead end. Since he is working with SIN.

The unlikely to happen but possible dead ends are ones involving monsters. MC running into Goliath as it recovers. I doubt child thing and Aglaecwif will be there but that could happen as well. We'll probably see Nyx's Monster types and get instant killed by their negative energy. Hex could also do his dimension dump trick on us again too. We might even run into completely different monsters from the 9th - 12th lines.

That's what I figured is going to be some of the dead ends next update. At least for the SIN Initiation. I can't think of where it goes after that so that's up in the air.
WW likes to taunt us. Doesn't let us kill Jared when he kills Laurie, if we try to kill him during infiltration it leads to a deadend. He also seems to be integral to the plot, with the whole "1 year magic pebble search" so I don't see him dying anytime soon, other than a deadend like you described.

As for the special bolts, I had an idea a few weeks back. I think it's common knowledge by now that MC has a weakness to electricity. If Ella was willing to tell Langdon about memory powers, she probably has told him about his weaknesses too. It fits the whole "I expose you to force you into conflict" mentallity.

I think MC will get trapped, fighting for his life and Jared will shoot him with an electricity bolt to "seal the deal". At that point MC will figure out how to use electricity to his advantage and turn the tables up to a certain point (as foreshadowed during MC vs Jake, electricity made him break Jake's control easier and regenerated faster).

Note that they could damage his base form, consistent with him being C-Class, and he was invulnerable when armored.
That said, as a C+, he is as dangerous as a B Class. Which is consistent with his performance after manifesting the armor.
Yeah, this explanation makes a lot of sense. I think Valravn is a bit peculiar, perhaps not the best example to explain the +- ranks. It makes a lot more sense to me in Hydra Deryl's case, based on the teacher's description.

At some point he says that a level 2 can generally deal with a C Class, but if the encounter is C+, he may have trouble, and that's why HERO likes to send agents in pairs. I could see a pair of levels 2 dealing with Hydra Deryl (considering that his defenses were based on the red light working against MC's organic projectiles), but against Valravn? One well placed slash and both of them would die. The difference in combat ability seems extreme.
 
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Something that I thought about was: why doesn't the MC utilize some mechanism similar to the one fleas use
I know that he can fly and use his tails to reach high altitudes but think about it:
Like his mantis punch in a sense, he can reach the same heights in under a second and getting his enemies in the distance in a surprise attack
For the MC that specialize in close combat range this could be a very powerful trump card
 
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Gtdead

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Something that I thought about was: why doesn't the MC utilize some mechanism similar to the one fleas use
I know that he can fly and use his tails to reach high altitudes but think about it:
Like his mantis punch in a sense, he can reach the same heights in under a second and getting his enemies in the distance in a surprise attack
For the MC that specialize in close combat range this could be a very powerful trump card
I could see this work wonders in close quarters when using plate, which is generally slow. Especially if he can use the momentum from the launch to augment the mantis strike.

If we are talking about attacking air however.. light armor MC moves 2 times faster than the fastest bullet. Probably Mach 9. He "blinks" once and moves "several" hundred meters. Average blink time is 100 ms and "several" should be at least 3. So we are talking 3000 m/s. The fastest bullet according to google is the .220 swift which travels at 1400 m/s tops.

If MC can combine this speed with an increase to his density and attack with the full weight of his body, the force generated is going to be ridiculous. Probably significantly more than what he can generate with the mantis attack.

Wait a minute what Classifies as a perfect Asura fight? And/or what are the minimum requirements?
If you fight it at 28 skill, you get +1 skill as a reward (in addition to another relationship point with Nico). Skill is generally hard to come by so any free gains are significant.
 

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I was just looking at the thread and saw someone mention that when the MC got electrocuted in the jake fight it helped him break out of jakes control, I'm starting to think electricity might be more than just a weakness but actually a strength booster, whenever the MC get's electrocute his flesh swells up and explodes, similar to how when he consumed the flesh of a lot of cattle he couldn't fully control his form and became an extra large eagle when he flew away from the scene. maybe the electricity is just powering him up and his earlier form's just couldn't handle all the energy going in at once, and now that he's reached his third evolution he may go from having to strictly avoid electricity to it being a double-edged sword that can kill him or amp up his strength and help him win a fight. does anyone else have any evidence for this or am i just schizo posting
 

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I was just looking at the thread and saw someone mention that when the MC got electrocuted in the jake fight it helped him break out of jakes control, I'm starting to think electricity might be more than just a weakness but actually a strength booster, whenever the MC get's electrocute his flesh swells up and explodes, similar to how when he consumed the flesh of a lot of cattle he couldn't fully control his form and became an extra large eagle when he flew away from the scene. maybe the electricity is just powering him up and his earlier form's just couldn't handle all the energy going in at once, and now that he's reached his third evolution he may go from having to strictly avoid electricity to it being a double-edged sword that can kill him or amp up his strength and help him win a fight. does anyone else have any evidence for this or am i just schizo posting
Imma be real when Deryl first told about electricity I thought of this same thing like it's something which we can't handle right now but it's some sort of power stimulus for Mc,so I had the same thought as you.
 

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I was just looking at the thread and saw someone mention that when the MC got electrocuted in the jake fight it helped him break out of jakes control, I'm starting to think electricity might be more than just a weakness but actually a strength booster, whenever the MC get's electrocute his flesh swells up and explodes, similar to how when he consumed the flesh of a lot of cattle he couldn't fully control his form and became an extra large eagle when he flew away from the scene. maybe the electricity is just powering him up and his earlier form's just couldn't handle all the energy going in at once, and now that he's reached his third evolution he may go from having to strictly avoid electricity to it being a double-edged sword that can kill him or amp up his strength and help him win a fight. does anyone else have any evidence for this or am i just schizo posting
This would make sense, if MC could control the accelerated "flesh growth" from electricity he could get a super giant form instantly or a super condensed/heavy form.
 
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Also, you guys are extremely perceptive, I don't remember the electricity helping the MC break free from Jake's control. When I'm back on that part I'll have to really sink in the details.
 
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Wham bam, back, I wanted to see the ella battle deadend again and now that I know what I knowww.. How did the being that killed the Apostle, Kill the Apostle? Has it been revealed what it even is yet? Since the Apostles are some of the strongest, what could kill it? (I tried using the spoiler tag, but it didn't work for some reason
 
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Wham bam, back, I wanted to see the ella battle deadend again and now that I know what I knowww.. How did the being that killed the Apostle, Kill the Apostle? Has it been revealed what it even is yet? Since the Apostles are some of the strongest, what could kill it? (I tried using the spoiler tag, but it didn't work for some reason
The being that killed the 4th Apostle (Memory) was actually the 7th Apostle (The Lord of The Dark) and we know this because they reappeared in Valravn's Flashback and infected him presumably (from then its process of elimination [Valravn is a 1st Gen spawn of the 7th apsotle]

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