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FakeTemplar

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Speaking of the FMC, I'm surprised there wasn't any checks if you named the FMC the same as the MC.

"You know, while I am still surprised that you were him all along, in hindsight it was pretty obvious."
What surprised me is the fact that you can put MC's name as his hero name and it plays out normally. I would have thought that the game would at least prevent you.
 
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Simpgor

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The Twins are at least mortally wounded, Cole believes he has killed them. MC thinks they are dead.
I expect the twins will survive through supernatural means, with the most likely device being either a shared evolution or Shopkeep's shenanigans.
due to variables getting out of hand (how would WW handle limber stats lol) im leaning towards shopkeep item somehow triggering an evolution for them or if MC can calm tf down and keep cole away for literally a minute I still dont see a reason why he couldnt just "heal" both of them without much difficulty
 

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due to variables getting out of hand (how would WW handle limber stats lol) im leaning towards shopkeep item somehow triggering an evolution for them or if MC can calm tf down and keep cole away for literally a minute I still dont see a reason why he couldnt just "heal" both of them without much difficulty
By shared evolution I mean the Twin connection triggering an evolution in both. If for example Amber survives and sees Liz's corpse, it's likely that the mental load will cause her to evolve, which may trigger a Liz evolution too. I don't subscribe to the fusion theory, at least not in the way most of the supporters think about it.
 

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By shared evolution I mean the Twin connection triggering an evolution in both. If for example Amber survives and sees Liz's corpse, it's likely that the mental load will cause her to evolve, which may trigger a Liz evolution too. I don't subscribe to the fusion theory, at least not in the way most of the supporters think about it.
I think that instead of amber seeing liz it will have something to with the item shopkeep gave them but otherwise agree, beyond memes I dont have much faith in fusion....MAYBE a temp one (would "revive" them, could give us preview to their late/endgame powers, would make the fight more interesting than a recently powered up MC beating up someone just at his level.
 
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I think that instead of amber seeing liz it will have something to with the item shopkeep gave them but otherwise agree, beyond memes I dont have much faith in fusion....MAYBE a temp one (would "revive" them, could give us preview to their late/endgame powers, would make the fight more interesting than a recently powered up MC beating up someone just at his level.
Considering that they would evolve straight to lvl 3 a temporary fusion could be a great power to have, the minyaks could so it's possible for monsters at least, though they are from a completely different origin than Amber/Liz.
Temporary fusion seems the best of both worlds.
 

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Liz and Amber will live the most likely cause of them living is the fact they are spawn of the Strength Eaters which are aptly named as they absorb the power of those around them and Liz and Amber have the perfect energy source in the MC and Cole who are going to be fighting right there in proximity to them. Also there is the fact they have those ear rings from shop keep which probably link their powers together in some weird way as the Shopkeep seems to know everything even whats going to happen in the future and sells people the items they need in response to that.
 
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Liz and Amber will live the most likely cause of them living is the fact they are spawn of the Strength Eaters which are aptly named as they absorb the power of those around them and Liz and Amber have the perfect energy source in the MC and Cole who are going to be fighting right there in proximity to them. Also there is the fact they have those ear rings from shop keep which probably link their powers together in some weird way as the Shopkeep seems to know everything even whats going to happen in the future and sells people the items they need in response to that.
pretty sure the strength eaters need to be "alive" to eat :KEK:

Shopkeep is interesting.... but i disagree that he "knows everything" (or is more plot reliant/strapped than deus), even if you ignore "joke stuff" like him calling MC charlie (despite him knowing that he would be selling to charlie and that MC and charlie would know each other), why does he only indirectly interact with "weak" people (aka no level 5s) despite multiple of his items directly involving/impacting them? (Shopkeep helping charlie indirectly pushed charlie towards leaving sin, the whole rune thing for henri) if he knows all, can go between the matieral and immaterial and can get anicent (sky/sea) parts, why arent zak/deus aware? Or does deus allow shopkeep to get away with stuff because deus knows its pushes MC towards what he wants? That doesnt explain why zak (pre injury/now) is allowing a third party to influnece stuff as heavily as he is

IMO shopkeep is something/one that "shouldnt exsist" rather than another very powerful "deus ex machina" it wouldnt really change much about his character the only thing it would really chnage is he doesnt interact with strong people because they are likely to know what/who he is and they might not allow him to keep doing what he is doing.

Whose the strongest person we have seen directly interact with him? Is it MC/Met/Charlie at level 3? Im pretty sure if you help henri MC only make a mention of shopkeep to him and even then henri seems like the most likely "strong person" to not care what shopkeep means/could represent
 

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pretty sure the strength eaters need to be "alive" to eat :KEK:

Shopkeep is interesting.... but i disagree that he "knows everything" (or is more plot reliant/strapped than deus), even if you ignore "joke stuff" like him calling MC charlie (despite him knowing that he would be selling to charlie and that MC and charlie would know each other), why does he only indirectly interact with "weak" people (aka no level 5s) despite multiple of his items directly involving/impacting them? (Shopkeep helping charlie indirectly pushed charlie towards leaving sin, the whole rune thing for henri) if he knows all, can go between the matieral and immaterial and can get anicent (sky/sea) parts, why arent zak/deus aware? Or does deus allow shopkeep to get away with stuff because deus knows its pushes MC towards what he wants? That doesnt explain why zak (pre injury/now) is allowing a third party to influnece stuff as heavily as he is

IMO shopkeep is something/one that "shouldnt exsist" rather than another very powerful "deus ex machina" it wouldnt really change much about his character the only thing it would really chnage is he doesnt interact with strong people because they are likely to know what/who he is and they might not allow him to keep doing what he is doing.

Whose the strongest person we have seen directly interact with him? Is it MC/Met/Charlie at level 3? Im pretty sure if you help henri MC only make a mention of shopkeep to him and even then henri seems like the most likely "strong person" to not care what shopkeep means/could represent
Well, we have seen Deus interact with the shopkeep and he bullied him, he's technically a lv 4 but a mad strong one. Though IIRC Henri should've already interacted with him
 
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Liz and Amber will live the most likely cause of them living is the fact they are spawn of the Strength Eaters which are aptly named as they absorb the power of those around them and Liz and Amber have the perfect energy source in the MC and Cole who are going to be fighting right there in proximity to them. Also there is the fact they have those ear rings from shop keep which probably link their powers together in some weird way as the Shopkeep seems to know everything even whats going to happen in the future and sells people the items they need in response to that.
Can Liz and Amber eat strength? Tanos says that the Strength Eaters' power is to teleport through water, and that their energy absorption is "something quite different". That kind of makes it sound like it's not an innate ability of theirs, and that Liz and Amber wouldn't inherit it.

Well, we have seen Deus interact with the shopkeep and he bullied him, he's technically a lv 4 but a mad strong one. Though IIRC Henri should've already interacted with him
Henri has interacted with him, yeah. We see Henri in Shopkeep's shop at one point, asking him "hey, you look weird, are you a really corrupted superhuman, too?". Which is just rude, Henri.
 
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Well, we have seen Deus interact with the shopkeep and he bullied him, he's technically a lv 4 but a mad strong one. Though IIRC Henri should've already interacted with him
Can Liz and Amber eat strength? Tanos says that the Strength Eaters' power is to teleport through water, and that their energy absorption is "something quite different". That kind of makes it sound like it's not an innate ability of theirs, and that Liz and Amber wouldn't inherit it.


Henri has interacted with him, yeah. We see Henri in Shopkeep's shop at one point, asking him "hey, you look weird, are you a really corrupted superhuman, too?". Which is just rude, Henri.

Like i said "deus could be allowing shopkeep", I guess shopkeep didnt offer him the rune becuase Herni was rude :KEK:

but "logically" it still kind of hurts the idea that shopkeep knows everything (in the same way deus does at least)
 

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Like i said "deus could be allowing shopkeep", I guess shopkeep didnt offer him the rune becuase Herni was rude :KEK:
Could be that, or maybe he didn't give it to him 'cause it wouldn't have worked or it could only work in the dream realm
 

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Could be that, or maybe he didn't give it to him 'cause it wouldn't have worked or it could only work in the dream realm
IIRC you buy the monster can in the real world but then MC drinks it in the immaterial? Obviously its not the same item but if a can is allowed to go between the real and immaterial why not a fancy glowing rune :HideThePain:
 

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IIRC you buy the monster can in the real world but then MC drinks it in the immaterial? Obviously its not the same item but if a can is allowed to go between the real and immaterial why not a fancy glowing rune :HideThePain:
I don't know man, only thing I can come up is that it's a different item with different properties or more simply in the material world it doesn't have a practical use so he doesn't have it there
 
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