VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[BenoTF25]

Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?

Occam's Razor seems to indicate that Paradox is the most likely explanation here. Also was it in one night? I thought it was over a week. Damn, that's even more nasty.

As for what exactly turned him, I couldn't say. Henri in general is a bit too much of a question mark at the moment. Though its about time for explanations for a lot of different things atm.

 

[OnlineRando]

Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?

I do like your theory, but it assumes those alien gods can actually produce superhuman offspring, and if they aren't related to the twelve apostles, and by proxy the six arbiters and twin gods, then they shouldn't even have monster power in the first place.

Henri might've succeeded Paradox in the same way Jake was, according to Aglaecwif, a failed candidate for Order despite not being converted by Power at all. It's possible that there's some way for a spawn of one of the apostles to gain access to the twin and/or the apostle of their trait given they have sufficient affinity with them, which Henri would've supposedly gotten from the twin he ate in the womb (Am I thinking about the right thing? I might be confusing this with something else).

 

[Landro2340]

I wanna see lvl 4 mc start giving out dick to level 5s considering his lineage.

Dude already giving dick to them since he was a lvl 2 tho.

Spoiler: Fuck the lvl5s

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[BenoTF25]

I do like your theory, but it assumes those alien gods can actually produce superhuman offspring, and if they aren't related to the twelve apostles, and by proxy the six arbiters and twin gods, then they shouldn't even have monster power in the first place.

Henri might've succeeded Paradox in the same way Jake was, according to Aglaecwif, a failed candidate for Order despite not being converted by Power at all. It's possible that there's some way for a spawn of one of the apostles to gain access to the twin and/or the apostle of their trait given they have sufficient affinity with them, which Henri would've supposedly gotten from the twin he ate in the womb (Am I thinking about the right thing? I might be confusing this with something else).

Yeah, Tanos did mention a "Unique" Superhuman that absorbed his twin on the womb, on his talk with Deryl, is safe to assume it was Henri, since the other two possible options going by their power(Malik and Berni) seem unlikely.

About my idea though, that's the beauty of an Alien Deity, it could work on any way WeirdWorld want without breaking the rules, havin something equivalent n' indistinguishable from monster power for instance
(and the ability to sire a superhuman for the purpose of this theory)

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?

It's possible, thought I believe the leading theory on what makes Henri is different is that he's the natural genetic chimera that Tanos mentions having met. His own twin, so he catalyzed his evolution and evolved super fast, and two separate cell lines for two separate genetic affinities. But we don't have any deeper evidence on that, it's just an interesting coincidence at this point, so it could be that Henri is the offspring of an alien god. Ella says that the alien gods have appeared recently, which might contradict them being the Great Lord's source of power, but what is "recent' to a god? They're immortal beings, what's recent to them could be millions of years to us.

Someone I think is a very good candidate for being descended from an alien god is Deus. A consistent theme with Deus is that there's something wrong with his powers. He has constant visions and nightmares about the existential scope of the cosmos. Valravn finds him intrinsically disgusting and frightening (and remember what Ella called the alien gods? "Parasites". The Lord of Dark hates parasites). The Eye has trouble figuring out if Deus is even a superhuman at all, and calls him an aberration. And, the thing that has started so many arguments about Deus, he has clear time-related powers but claims not be linked to the Time. What if it's a different god of time that he's descended from? It's entirely possible there's something else wrong about Deus, but it is an interesting pattern.

 

[RabbidSupreme]

From a narrative perspective, the MC has to leave H.E.R.O., otherwise Bramon will administer the evolution serum at the soonest available opportunity, eliminating any chance of the MC achieving Level 5 naturally, and even cutting short the time we spend at Level 4. Another issue is that the MC is not nearly as entrenched in H.E.R.O. as the higher-ups would like. He consorts with Ella far too often, and is ultimately a loose end they will eventually feel the need to reign in, which the MC simply isn't going to stand for. We've had scenes of the captains discussing the MC and expressing their concerns with his allegiance. Regardless of whether it would be better or worse for him to leave, that's the way the narrative is pointing.

Bramon explicitly said that he won't be giving MC the serum until it's time for his 5th. Also we've been told that evolutions are completely random so the idea of spending enough time on one doesn't really matter. As for the issue of trust, literally only one captain (Lucius) has ever raised that issue, and Malik and Nico rush to his defense when it happened, while the rest don't care. Also the only person in HERO that would even have a clue about Ella is Deus, who has said he wants her plans to go through. At the moment HERO has more pressing concerns than reigning in anyone. Unless Charlies mark becomes relevant again and forces him to obey Ella MC has zero reason to leave HERO

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Bramon explicitly said that he won't be giving MC the serum until it's time for his 5th. Also we've been told that evolutions are completely random so the idea of spending enough time on one doesn't really matter. As for the issue of trust, literally only one captain (Lucius) has ever raised that issue, and Malik and Nico rush to his defense when it happened, while the rest don't care. Also the only person in HERO that would even have a clue about Ella is Deus, who has said he wants her plans to go through. At the moment HERO has more pressing concerns than reigning in anyone. Unless Charlies mark becomes relevant again and forces him to obey Ella MC has zero reason to leave HERO

I mean, I think that's where we're going. But we'll see if things change come the next update. If I'm wrong, maybe it's just me sick of being locked in H.E.R.O.'s basement all the time.

 

[Youtiy]

I mean, I think that's where we're going. But we'll see if things change come the next update. If I'm wrong, maybe it's just me sick of being locked in H.E.R.O.'s basement all the time.

As someone said earlier H.E.R.O isn't in a position to do that right now, shit's really hitting the fan on earth from what we've seen. Far to much need for Superhuman's to allow even level 2's to stay locked up much less a level 3 who's getting decently close to 4 and one that's fought and won against a level 4.

 

[Jooj Cena]

Maybe what Im writing is dumb, but is Syla dead-dead?
I mean it as we saw what happened and after that, she managed to stay with the mc as a weak memory-thingy. While I get from the writing that this seems to be temporary and she most likely will go, I also dont really see her disappearing later down the line.
So what Im asking is some insight if you guys think the character is doomed or maybe there's some hope.

 

[txe320]

Maybe what Im writing is dumb, but is Syla dead-dead?
I mean it as we saw what happened and after that, she managed to stay with the mc as a weak memory-thingy. While I get from the writing that this seems to be temporary and she most likely will go, I also dont really see her disappearing later down the line.
So what Im asking is some insight if you guys think the character is doomed or maybe there's some hope.

I don't think it's dumb if you want to believe that. Right now, nobody but WW knows for sure. I personally think she's gone and that her spirit/memory only live in the dream world because she wants to be sure that the MC will be fine down the line.

I don't see any outcome where she's gonna come back at all, only if it's inside MC's dreams or his subconscious.

If I have to bet,I think there's more chance that she will be disappearing that her being revived or whatever after all those years.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Maybe what Im writing is dumb, but is Syla dead-dead?
I mean it as we saw what happened and after that, she managed to stay with the mc as a weak memory-thingy. While I get from the writing that this seems to be temporary and she most likely will go, I also dont really see her disappearing later down the line.
So what Im asking is some insight if you guys think the character is doomed or maybe there's some hope.

I think she already is. The energy vortex thing that the MC recovers his memories from uses the same image as the Vestige that he met with Henri. The Vestige was made of ghosts that had deteriorated too much to maintain coherent existence, and Syla is a ghost that we were told was deteriorating. It seems likely to me that that was Syla, and the reason the MC couldn't find her in the dream world is because she's basically already gone. Not completely, yet, but her existence as a person is over. I think it won't be her disappearing so much as the MC coming to terms with the fact he's not getting her back.

If there is hope to restore her, it's going to be towards the end of the story, I think. After the MC masters Memory and maybe unlocks Evolution, he might be able to stabilize and strengthen her spirit. But that's a longshot, it's so far off we can't really predict what the MC will and will not be capable of.

 

[Jooj Cena]

I don't see any outcome where she's gonna come back at all, only if it's inside MC's dreams or his subconscious.

If I have to bet,I think there's more chance that she will be disappearing that her being revived or whatever after all those years.

Syla is a ghost that we were told was deteriorating. It seems likely to me that that was Syla, and the reason the MC couldn't find her in the dream world is because she's basically already gone. Not completely, yet, but her existence as a person is over. I think it won't be her disappearing so much as the MC coming to terms with the fact he's not getting her back.

If there is hope to restore her, it's going to be towards the end of the story, I think. After the MC masters Memory and maybe unlocks Evolution, he might be able to stabilize and strengthen her spirit. But that's a longshot, it's so far off we can't really predict what the MC will and will not be capable of.

Yeah I meant it more as if "will the character stay or not" rather than "will she get revived or not". Thanks for the replies.

Edit:On a side note, I see the dev is a fan of baiting readers, he pulled those fake deaths with alice and michael and now I live with a doubt cap

 

[Juan96]

Maybe what Im writing is dumb, but is Syla dead-dead?
I mean it as we saw what happened and after that, she managed to stay with the mc as a weak memory-thingy. While I get from the writing that this seems to be temporary and she most likely will go, I also dont really see her disappearing later down the line.
So what Im asking is some insight if you guys think the character is doomed or maybe there's some hope.

The mc from what I saw can suck the energy of spirits and make them disappear, he can do this with the spirit of Alice's abuser, so it shouldn't be impossible for him to have the ability to strengthen a spirit and create a physical body to house it.

 

[Juan96]

Maybe what Im writing is dumb, but is Syla dead-dead?
I mean it as we saw what happened and after that, she managed to stay with the mc as a weak memory-thingy. While I get from the writing that this seems to be temporary and she most likely will go, I also dont really see her disappearing later down the line.
So what Im asking is some insight if you guys think the character is doomed or maybe there's some hope.

I don't quite understand how Ella made another version of herself that also contained most of her memories, but perhaps this is an example of something that could be done to Syla? I don't know, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that MC's mother could be resurrected using a similar method.

 

[OnlineRando]

I don't quite understand how Ella made another version of herself that also contained most of her memories, but perhaps this is an example of something that could be done to Syla? I don't know, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility that MC's mother could be resurrected using a similar method.

Better yet, she said her body should still be fresh. Just fix it up and transfer her conciousness from the dream realm, and she should be fine.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Yeah I meant it more as if "will the character stay or not" rather than "will she get revived or not". Thanks for the replies.

Edit:On a side note, I see the dev is a fan of baiting readers, he pulled those fake deaths with alice and michael and now I live with a doubt cap

 

[Nexum768]

Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?

Going to lvl 1-5 in one night would probably be one of the worst things to happen considering the trips MC has gone through probably not as bad but sitll bad

 

[BenoTF25]

Going to lvl 1-5 in one night would probably be one of the worst things to happen considering the trips MC has gone through probably not as bad but sitll bad

Buddy was hit with the most fucked up acid trip on mankind's history

 

[BenoTF25]

It's possible, thought I believe the leading theory on what makes Henri is different is that he's the natural genetic chimera that Tanos mentions having met. His own twin, so he catalyzed his evolution and evolved super fast, and two separate cell lines for two separate genetic affinities. But we don't have any deeper evidence on that, it's just an interesting coincidence at this point, so it could be that Henri is the offspring of an alien god. Ella says that the alien gods have appeared recently, which might contradict them being the Great Lord's source of power, but what is "recent' to a god? They're immortal beings, what's recent to them could be millions of years to us.

Someone I think is a very good candidate for being descended from an alien god is Deus. A consistent theme with Deus is that there's something wrong with his powers. He has constant visions and nightmares about the existential scope of the cosmos. Valravn finds him intrinsically disgusting and frightening (and remember what Ella called the alien gods? "Parasites". The Lord of Dark hates parasites). The Eye has trouble figuring out if Deus is even a superhuman at all, and calls him an aberration. And, the thing that has started so many arguments about Deus, he has clear time-related powers but claims not be linked to the Time. What if it's a different god of time that he's descended from? It's entirely possible there's something else wrong about Deus, but it is an interesting pattern.

Man, I straight up ignored Deus when thinking about the Alien Gods, but now that you mentioned him, I seriously think he is a far better option that Henri for the spot of being the spawn of one(I'm not tossing my idea of him being one just yet though)

That would fit good with various traits of his Character, his unusual power, clearly different from common superhuman, to the point of being surely more dangerous than most level five, despite he himself not being one. Being mentioned as an 'Aberrant' by the eye, something totally beyond of it's knowledge despite the aforementioned having probably knowledge about most things on the universe, I mean, he straight up read Berni at first glance(on surface at least) but that wasn't possible with Deus.

Hell, even his whole 'Being aware of the scope and crude reality of the cosmos' and treating Ella's deal and the current war against the monsters as something manageable would be totally in line if he was actually the offspring of an Alien Deity, like even if his "Parent" is not on the level of the Apostles, that thing would be still something from outside reality, probably carrying with it knowledge of other 'places' that he later passed to Deus, resulting on him having his grim outlook on things, since he might know everything is fucked on this and other universes.