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To be fair, I dobut SIN really know the full extent of the power that the Captains have, Ella was one thing, but the others?, they may be very on the dark, especially when it comes to the top dogs, i'm sure Bernhardt has never really used that Planck move on earth for instance since that would probably wipe out all the life on the surface
Shen said they did extensive research on everyon in the HERO, and he even knows about their personal info that he can take advatange of Elijah's insecurity and his strain relation with his father. So yeah they clearly know enough.
 
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They don't need a shit load of time to utilize it when they have gotten a hang of their power like Devana or current Deryl who could pull out his mech in an instance.
Also unless Devana spams bombs, she's gonna have to rely on a shit load of prep to handle threats like Deryl had to in MC and Deryl's first two fights. Bombing spamming probably won't work at the higher levels because the damage output of any bomb she constructs especially without Tanos or Rebis help, isn't going to have enough damage output.

Also this chick relies on Rebis blueprints for her creations, Devana's a solo bum when she's completely unhelped.
 

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I finally re-read the part of Monster World in which Ella and the MC talk about the Gods, on previous plays I didn't really squeezed the whole of info in there, but man is really interesting.

Some weeks ago I talked about a theory of one of Hero's members being the 'Spawn' of one of the Alien Gods that Ella mentioned with the two candidates being Henri and Deus, but now having read the full length of the conversation with Doll Ella, i'm sell to think that if WW ever expand further on that Alien Gods plot, he is gonna use Deus, how he talks and acts, plus the way the Eye described him, and as another person on the thread pointed out about how Deus may have been confused by the MC's powers to be related to Time since he(Deus) is perhaps the spawn of OTHER time related being, make me think that there is no one else more fitting to that.

What make me particularly curious though, didn't Valv mentioned something about 'Parasites' that seek the connection that exist between spawn and the apostles to the MC?, because that's also how Doll Ella described the Alien Gods, parasitic entities
 
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i feel like attitude is good in these games like its getting annoying seeing every girl in porn games deepthroating the mcs cock as soon as they see him.. and i think most of the characters we see are really good powerhouses but you have to consider that who will she train with? almost no one has her power and the ones that do aren't human and are just sentient rings and who could she test her strongest moves against? like most of her allies probably wouldn't accept or survive plus some of them shes just a bad matchup against seeing as how if the thing she's targeting is bigger then what she thinks it is or its hidden using a decoy body above ground, then she cant teleport it. so its either train against borderline god level threats or people who cant even survive her attacks both are bad since she wouldn't know if she's improving since her allies and captains are mostly stronger then her if they can doge portals and she wouldn't even be able to tell if her damage improved because she would most likely not do anything to her fellow captains or strong allies while the weaker ones probably would die way too fast to tell if it improved or not.

You've made excellent points here. I like a little attitude sometimes too. It isn't her job to prepare for those type of threats anymore than it was Jake's job to train his body. Me and the argument of some others is just that she should stop acting like she's more capable than she is. Not that she isn't very capable. That's all. And she should stop talking shit about her own team members: Clark and Lexi.
 
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I finally re-read the part of Monster World in which Ella and the MC talk about the Gods, on previous plays I didn't really squeezed the whole of info in there, but man is really interesting.

Some weeks ago I talked about a theory of one of Hero's members being the 'Spawn' of one of the Alien Gods that Ella mentioned with the two candidates being Henri and Deus, but now having read the full length of the conversation with Doll Ella, i'm sell to think that if WW ever expand further on that Alien Gods plot, he is gonna use Deus, how he talks and acts, plus the way the Eye described him, and as another person on the thread pointed out about how Deus may have been confused by the MC's powers to be related to Time since he(Deus) is perhaps the spawn of OTHER time related being, make me think that there is no one else more fitting to that.

What make me particularly curious though, didn't Valv mentioned something about 'Parasites' that seek the connection that exist between spawn and the apostles to the MC?, because that's also how Doll Ella described the Alien Gods, parasitic entities
Gonna have to replay that part again. Thanks for the insight.
 
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You've made excellent points here. I like a little attitude sometimes too. It isn't her job to prepare for those type of threats anymore than it was Jake's job to train his body. Me and the argument of some others is just that she should stop acting like she's more capable than she is. Not that she isn't very capable. That's all. And she should stop talking shit about her own team members: Clark and Lexi.
yeah she needs to stop talking shit but i doubt most of the captains care and it does good to test their friendship. and yeah she really needs to get humbled with how powerful she thinks she is when she really isn't. like what is she gonna do when the thing that made ella piss herself comes to the world? she needs to stop being so cocky.
 
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i mean we have just been told how the main cast powers works but not powers in general we have just been given a vague statement.
During the HERO classroom scenes and a lot of scenes in the HERO base during the Deryl Arc, you're given a decently through foundation of how powers work. Maybe give those scenes a look if you want more knowledge. You can also check out the miraheze superhuman wiki.
 
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yeah she needs to stop talking shit but i doubt most of the captains care and it does good to test their friendship. and yeah she really needs to get humbled with how powerful she thinks she is when she really isn't. like what is she gonna do when the thing that made ella piss herself comes to the world? she needs to stop being so cocky.
Really does, or she gonna get killed.
 

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During the HERO classroom scenes and a lot of scenes in the HERO base during the Deryl Arc, you're given a decently through foundation of how powers work. Maybe give those scenes a look if you want more knowledge.
i mean even they themselves say that they don't know the full extent of how powers work in a different scene during that arc sooo. and they also say they don't even know how mcs powers work that they can only study him to figure out and even then then they don't know how plus he hasn't reached level 5 so they don't know the full extent of his powers. so they don't know how all powers work just the ones they have studied and even then they don't know the full extent of ALL powers or what they are or how they work plus they haven't studied ALL powers.
 
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i wish he would at least make it to where mc can make clones without gasping like he just deepthroated 100 dicks in a row.
Ella said that she'd teach the MC how to better control multiple bodies after they designed some full body transformations for him to use. I guess the idea is that she wants him to fight like she did against that acid monster, attack with a bunch of different body types from multiple angles. One body occupies the foe's attention while another comes in from the side with heavy weapons.

Of course, Ella might not follow through on that promise. Either because she gets preoccupied with something else, or just because she does eventually betray the party. Or both, she gets preoccupied with betrayal. But I'd expect the MC to still put effort into figuring it out on his own at that point.
 

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I mean that I can't tolerate a lot of the scenes in a full corruption path.
yeah i just do it to kill the assholes plus for some reason you have to let one of the girls get kidnaped and raped just to kill one of them and if you choose the non ntr route the guy still rapes and drugs girls.
 

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Ella said that she'd teach the MC how to better control multiple bodies after they designed some full body transformations for him to use. I guess the idea is that she wants him to fight like she did against that acid monster, attack with a bunch of different body types from multiple angles. One body occupies the foe's attention while another comes in from the side with heavy weapons.

Of course, Ella might not follow through on that promise. Either because she gets preoccupied with something else, or just because she does eventually betray the party. Or both, she gets preoccupied with betrayal. But I'd expect the MC to still put effort into figuring it out on his own at that point.
i mean if she does follow through she would be way smarter to subtly make him weaker by teaching him how to do it but making it to where he has to consume most of his power to do so, so that way he thinks she's still on their side but she's really not.
 

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Deryl has his stone and his stone allows him to create all the things he can create near instantly. He and her would still get pwned by 9 of the 12 trait members. Time would stalemate. Only Body, and Memory would have difficulty against him or her.
This is just completely baseless speculations considering we haven't seen how most of the Pure Spawns fight at lvl 3. I don't know how you can say it so definitely like it's a fact. Time also could not stalemate forever even if you assume they have the time loop ability at lvl 3 because they will eventually run out of power.

Syla said that is how Split Traits work in one of Dream World's first scenes. Something like, "You've been spending too much time training your Daddy side. Now you need to train your Mommy side." She straight up says that MC cannot maxmize his potential unless he masters both sides of his power, which he didn't before that fight.
Syla said MC lacks the focus of a pure spawn, not that he's at half the capacity of a pure spawn. It's completely different. Also while MC lacks the focus of a Pure Spawn like Ella he can also do sth Ella can only dream of like copying animal traits so it's closer to a give-and-take than a direct downgrade even before MC trained his Memory's part. Just imagine Ella against Val as a lvl 2, she would hardly do a better job than MC despite being a Pure Spawn.

I agree she doesn't lack power. She lacks battle exp and a proper mindset but I disagree on that being easily remedied, She lives in a dimension full of monsters and still decides to half ass train. Her almost dying to MC who's double teamed and getting head fuck sniped by a level four while a twin boosted greater spawn who's matchup predisposed to beat is a terrible performance. Fucking around or not, back then, 1v1, he wouldve mirked her. You don't fuck around this deep into the game. She's literally one decent hit, one kill. She has no survivability whatsover. She coasts off her circumstances while training like JV athlete when this is the Big Leagues!;)
Nowhere was it stated that she half ass train, more like the opposite according to Shen. The lvl 4 was literally the reason she got stabbed in the first place so I don't understand your point. She was also not twin boosted by default, they need to intentionally access the share power pool otherwise Evander wouldn't tie with Met. Am I supposed to be surprised that a lvl 3 who had been training for over half a year beating a lvl 3 that had barely been a SH for a month? "She's literally one decent hit, one kill." Congrats for describing everyone besides MC and Ella.

I like how people shit on Devana for being arrogant while doing the exact same themsevle ignoring Syla 's warning about not being cocky and we should't underestimate the Moon twin.
 
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I personally don't hate Ella, quite the opposite really, i mean, she is an asshole but a very interesting one, but man, I seriously hope we come to see her truly scared/out her cool on the main story, as I said, I love her but see characters that are as secure of themselves out their terrain is one of those things I just need to see at least once.

There is of course the 'Too strong, too soon ending', on which the Lord of Dark(7th Apostle) appear out of nowhere, no-diffs Memory Apostle and make Ella pretty much fall in desperation, but that's a Dead End, I need to see it on main story.

Talking about that, i wouldn't let pass the opportunity to wank my man Zack, remember he managed to take alive all his squad from an encounter with the Lord of Dark on the very same level in which Ella just stand there mumbling in horror.
 

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I personally don't hate Ella, quite the opposite really, i mean, she is an asshole but a very interesting one, but man, I seriously hope we come to see her truly scared/out her cool on the main story, as I said, I love her but see characters that are as secure of themselves out their terrain is one of those things I just need to see at least once.

There is of course the 'Too strong, too soon ending', on which the Lord of Dark(7th Apostle) appear out of nowhere, no-diffs Memory Apostle and make Ella pretty much fall in desperation, but that's a Dead End, I need to see it on main story.

Talking about that, i wouldn't let pass the opportunity to wank my man Zack, remember he managed to take alive all his squad from an encounter with the Lord of Dark on the very same level in which Ella just stand there mumbling in horror.
i think ella stood there mumbling in horror because she knows what it is while Zack probably doesn't and Zacks power and his teams are way better suited to escaping that thing then ellas
 
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