Wow.... I guess I really look right past all of these hints, but it would be awesome if she was turned!
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Yeah but I meant in comparison to the Mc, who's still a level 3. By the time the Mc reaches level four too the time gap will be pretty substantial.
Yeah that take is kinda dumb. Really hate that when people say MC can easily fold someone on his lvl or stronger like some kind of Mary Sue character when in the game he's anything but. In literally every major fight in the game MC had to fight tooth and nail and make the best use of his tactical thinking to win and there were still plenty dead ends waiting for him if he fucked up. This is a story with real characters and real challenges not your average shitty Isekai anime which whole purpose is for the self insert op protag to trample over everyone.
NO MC will not easily fold Shen just because he has trained his Memory part and evo to lvl 4. Memory is not stronger than Fantasy mentally and Shen being a pure spawn of Fantasy meaning he has much better mastery of his mental power than MC's, and Shen also has a big power advantage having been a lvl4 since BoD.
NO MC will not easily fold moon twin if Shen wasn't there. Syla explicitly stated that they were just showing a fraction of their power and the fact that they wanted to catch MC alive changed a lot of things, and in any other circumstances even individually they are a dangerous foe.
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Took the words right out of my mouth. Having access to hero resources and not constantly needing to be on edge in the monster world may allow him to create a superior version, though maybe not with things beginning to deteriorate on earth as well.
DecadentDesires' Lesser Spawn Monster Trait: Single or Combination Theory(Work In Progress)
Alexis Allabrand=Body*Unknown or Body Singular Trait Evolved
Amber and Liz Foxglove=Darkness and/or Space*Power(Absorbing Power seems like a Power ability, but perhaps it is also a Darkness ability. Traveling through Space while in water is either a Space and/or Darkness derived ability.)
Angelina=Body*Light(Power Boosting Seems a Light Ability)
Bernhardt Gunvald=Power*Destruction
Charlie Leicht=Authority*Truth
Clark Callabero=Light Singular Trait Evolved
Cole(Charlotte if WW changes his mind in the future) Yun=Destruction*Power
Charlotte meaning "Free man" would be a perfect ironic contrast if I get my way with Yun.
Danica Gorman=Destruction*Space
Duncan Gillibrand=Destruction*Power*Creation(Most traits so far also had difficulty evolving, perhaps some causation there)
Elijah Gunvald=Truth Singular Trait Evolved
Halona Nez=Memory
Henrick Bendrix=Seemingly Truth and Fantasy
Jade Wilson=Destruction*Power*Space(maybe)
Jill Pyre=Space Singular Trait Evolved
Kenneth Felzen=Authority*Body
Kira Kelsey=Power*Body
Klaus Aldain=Destruction*Space
Langdon Wilson=(Too much brain power required for now)
Laurie Kernz=Creation Singular Trait Evolved
Lisa Corven=Unknown
Lochan Deus=Time Related. Could even have other unknown capabilities based on Extrauniversal Spawn theory
Lucius Valentine=Body and Memory
Malik Drexel=Destruction*Power
Melody Ward=Authority Singular Trait Evolved
Met Freitas=Power*Destruction
Nicolette Heart=Space Singular Trait Evolved
Nyx Elis=Darkness and Memory(maybe, talking to formerly deceased consciousnesses seems Memory related since there is no Soul trait.)
Oscar Leicht=Truth
Rina Mori=Body and/or and/or Light and/or Space(We don't really know how she's making herself invisible)
Zara Dabke=Truth Singular Trait Evolved
Zack Zaman=Time Singular Trait Evolved
Feel free to add to or disagree! Also working on a monster trait interactions theory that should be finished later today.
Alexis Allabrand=Body*Unknown or Body Singular Trait Evolved
Amber and Liz Foxglove=Darkness and/or Space*Power(Absorbing Power seems like a Power ability, but perhaps it is also a Darkness ability. Traveling through Space while in water is either a Space and/or Darkness derived ability.)
Angelina=Body*Light(Power Boosting Seems a Light Ability)
Bernhardt Gunvald=Power*Destruction
Charlie Leicht=Authority*Truth
Clark Callabero=Light Singular Trait Evolved
Cole(Charlotte if WW changes his mind in the future) Yun=Destruction*Power
Charlotte meaning "Free man" would be a perfect ironic contrast if I get my way with Yun.
Danica Gorman=Destruction*Space
Duncan Gillibrand=Destruction*Power*Creation(Most traits so far also had difficulty evolving, perhaps some causation there)
Elijah Gunvald=Truth Singular Trait Evolved
Halona Nez=Memory
Henrick Bendrix=Seemingly Truth and Fantasy
Jade Wilson=Destruction*Power*Space(maybe)
Jill Pyre=Space Singular Trait Evolved
Kenneth Felzen=Authority*Body
Kira Kelsey=Power*Body
Klaus Aldain=Destruction*Space
Langdon Wilson=(Too much brain power required for now)
Laurie Kernz=Creation Singular Trait Evolved
Lisa Corven=Unknown
Lochan Deus=Time Related. Could even have other unknown capabilities based on Extrauniversal Spawn theory
Lucius Valentine=Body and Memory
Malik Drexel=Destruction*Power
Melody Ward=Authority Singular Trait Evolved
Met Freitas=Power*Destruction
Nicolette Heart=Space Singular Trait Evolved
Nyx Elis=Darkness and Memory(maybe, talking to formerly deceased consciousnesses seems Memory related since there is no Soul trait.)
Oscar Leicht=Truth
Rina Mori=Body and/or and/or Light and/or Space(We don't really know how she's making herself invisible)
Zara Dabke=Truth Singular Trait Evolved
Zack Zaman=Time Singular Trait Evolved
Feel free to add to or disagree! Also working on a monster trait interactions theory that should be finished later today.
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There is also the possibility that Aglae teach him spells/something outside Monster Power, since that seem to be a thing and she seem to be particularly knowledgeable about such Dark Arts as she called, it wouldn't surprise me if when really pressed, Shen began to use things outside his Monster Trait, not the lineage of other Apostle, no, but straight up Magic
- Oct 21, 2022
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Maybe Deus will be a Time/Space spawn? We see this mf appear in the exact place at the exact time various times, so either he can jump through time and space to choose where to appear or he uses Time to tell where this event will locate and arrive there before it could happen.
Going off the monster reports we have so far they will probably all have much more varied origins than you'd think so it's hard to put them in boxes but there is a few (well only 2 or maybe even only 1 lmao) we should know for sure thanks to said monster reports. That's Kenny who was turned by a Minyak so he'd be a mix of Authority, Body and Dark since that's what the Minyak is (50% Authority, 40% Body and 10% Dark) and Met who I'm going to assume was turned by a Leigong similar to Ella's plan for his big bro and the Leigong is 58% Power, 34% Ether and 8% Fantasy. We know Oscar was turned by a Wepwawet specifically too but even though we've fought one of those I don't think we've had a monster report for that yet? Either way I doubt that thing is pure Truth but not sure what else it would have my guess would be some Authority and maybe a tinnny bit of Time?
Fun list either way! I commend the effort of going through and listing every single character like that some of them I'd forgotten even existed lol
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Wow thanks for the info and appreciation! Yeah I'm just broad stroke categorizing. I can't believe that I didn't pick up that Kenny or Oil was part Dark! Can't believe a Leigong is part Fantasy! I really can't believe that there's no Destruction in its lineage.
I also forgot Sin Healer Boy. I'll edit both and add now. Thanks again!
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Weird World, I'm off to sleep now. When I wake up, I'd better see that you've dropped the update.
if not.....
if not.....
Imagine if it is Space and Time, that would mean potential Infinity Arbiter potential? Deus is one of many nonmonster related potential threats.
Decadent Desires' Future MC Threats List In Order Of Probability Based On Potential MC Decisions
Tanos
Cole(probably Cole working under Tanos)
The Last of The Aldains(Gender Bending Dietz to Diana after he threatened my sweet Alice with sexual violence would be great. I can't wait to get my hands on that supple pink haired body)
Big Ella
Ella Doll
Ella Fusion
Xanthe
Dexter
Ella's Other Wards:Zara,Healer Boy, Shen and the Unknown Ones Discussed
HERO In General or SIN In General or The Apostles and Their Chosen or any combination thereof
Deus
An Arbiter
An "Alien Parasite"
Our Universe's Creator God
The Multiverse Creator God
The Omniverse's Creator God
The Plane's Creator God
The Multiplane Creator God
The Omniplane Creator God or Simply "God"
No I do not believe, WW would go as far as the very bottom of the list.
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- Dec 12, 2022
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Which one is Space? I thought the 12 apostles were Authority, Power, Body, Memory, Time, Ether, Light, Darkness, Truth, Fantasy, Destruction and Creation.
Do you guys feel like Ella was/is using Cole as a scapegoat for SIN?
I started to feel that way in convos with Doll Ella when she talks about how SIN has never done anything really evil, it was either Talos who she says they're not with, or Cole, who she blames for pretty much every negative thing SIN has done.
In a sense this is true, Cole was the guy who popped the newscaster, he's clearly the most antagonistic and bloodthirsty of the bunch, but what I'm wondering is if Ella intentionally manipulated him into being that way so she could have someone to do all the 'dirty work' for her, push MC to get stronger, and then throw away at the end once she's got MC and just go "oh nooo that was all cole bb we'reso nice and sweet pls join SIN we're not like him at all".
I started to feel that way in convos with Doll Ella when she talks about how SIN has never done anything really evil, it was either Talos who she says they're not with, or Cole, who she blames for pretty much every negative thing SIN has done.
In a sense this is true, Cole was the guy who popped the newscaster, he's clearly the most antagonistic and bloodthirsty of the bunch, but what I'm wondering is if Ella intentionally manipulated him into being that way so she could have someone to do all the 'dirty work' for her, push MC to get stronger, and then throw away at the end once she's got MC and just go "oh nooo that was all cole bb we'reso nice and sweet pls join SIN we're not like him at all".
- Jul 15, 2024
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Is possible, Ella using Cole as a ladder for the MC to climb, but no, I dobut she is really behind him being as violent as he is, that just seem to be Cole's personality/developed self given his early life, Ella probably see that and then used him, not really manipulated him to be that way.
Though it might be more complicated than that, Christie when remembering Cole, mentioned that he just seemed like a pretty boy with a very shy personality, so, perhaps Ella did nurtured his violent side(?
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About Cole, it has ever been explained why he looked that way during his fourth Evo?, anyone has a theory about it?
I mean, as much of a kick in the nuts the guy was, he looked cool on his fourth Evo, but don't seem like something that should have happened, going by Shen, it seems that young superhumans may advance appearance-wise on their fourth, but Cole didn't just become older, he developed claws, that 'core' on his chest, and various black formations around his body, even naturally black lips, and his evolution was perfect, since he didn't show any sign of becoming a Monster, mind intact and all, but again, such drastic change in appearance hasn't been seen on others, besides(apparently) Henri
I mean, as much of a kick in the nuts the guy was, he looked cool on his fourth Evo, but don't seem like something that should have happened, going by Shen, it seems that young superhumans may advance appearance-wise on their fourth, but Cole didn't just become older, he developed claws, that 'core' on his chest, and various black formations around his body, even naturally black lips, and his evolution was perfect, since he didn't show any sign of becoming a Monster, mind intact and all, but again, such drastic change in appearance hasn't been seen on others, besides(apparently) Henri
The way I see it, Level 4 is where you sort of definitely become less human, so to speak. Levels 1-3 can still be extrapolated as superficially similar to humans, but once you hit Level 4 the changes that were previously internal/hidden become external.
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Theory isn't needed. His card states that he partially gained monster features during his evolution. It's caused by nearly turning into a monster during his evolution. Even though his was smooth. It's that simple and straightforward.
This isn't limited to the 4th evolution as well. It can happen at any level. As can be seen by Jake.
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Oh, i didn't know Cole already had a card, I guess that's where the name of his Monster Parent also come, Cherufe.
And yeah, I totally forget about Jake, though his changes were nowhere as noticeable as Cole's
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