KingAgamemnon

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With the topic of morality coming up, anyone else find how the Corruption on the MC works a bit strange?, or at least curious.

MC on a full corruption route began to act rather cold, his emotions become dull and he is unable to even make simple displays of affection such as give a hug, and this might be just me, but I feel like he lose some of his personality, essentially becoming empty when compared to a mid corruption or 'heroic' route. Now, here is the strange/curious thing for me, no matter how corrupt MC can become(Eye aside) as of latest update, is impossible that he has more corruption than either Nyx or Malik since corruption seem to be something that build up no matter what, as long you kill and enforce violence, yet those two keep a large amount of personality, Nyx being rather chatty and making jests here and there, and Malik being overall a friendly guy, who even keep a sort of morality, despite being on the boat of make whatever is necessary, and again, those two must be at the lowest, twice as corrupted as MC, especially Malik, that guy was a walking nuke during the unification wars, his kill count must be on the hundreds of thousands, if not more.
It's been stated that the effects of corruption depend on the individual. We've heard that corruption at the higher levels actually affects the powers of the superhumans in question.
 

BenoTF25

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that requires power to do through and if he had a suit that isn't made from his power he could gain better control of it and maybe even get infinite power but i doubt that will happen seeing as how that wouldn't be good story wise.
I dobut any possible suit made of tech, could generate the same amount of energy MC could get from simply generating it himself once he overcome his weakness, like, we have seen just how large in scale anything produced by a level four or five can be, and he already has the electric eel transformation
 

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I like your spirit but you got several things wrong.

If we're talking about italian mafia then it's true that they're in the drug business and maybe they have some hands in sex trafficking even tho that's more the chinese territory, also they almost always dare not to have any kind of this business with kids and stuff as they still have some slight sense of honor.

It can happen, surely it has happened some other time by now but it isn't an habit or a tendency.

Now if we're talking about the mafia in-game they are in drug business too but it's never mentioned any kind of stuff that gets kids involved so we can safely assume that it isn't an issue if not for some individuals.

Edit: also it's a bit of a stretch as Alice has never told anyone that she's innocent, she knows that she's "an horrible person" and she even warns the MC to not have a relationship with her. She's a morally grey character, you can't tell "she's in the mafia, so she's automatically bad" if you don't accept her for whatever reason that's fine but do not use these kind of "excuses" to feel more good about yourself
 

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I like your spirit but you got several things wrong.

If we're talking about italian mafia then it's true that they're in the drug business and maybe they have some hands in sex trafficking even tho that's more the chinese territory, also they almost always dare not to have any kind of this business with kids and stuff as they still have some slight sense of honor.

It can happen, surely it has happened some other time by now but it isn't an habit or a tendency.

Now if we're talking about the mafia in-game they are in drug business too but it's never mentioned any kind of stuff that gets kids involved so we can safely assume that it isn't an issue if not for some individuals.

Edit: also it's a bit of a stretch as Alice has never told anyone that she's innocent, she knows that she's "an horrible person" and she even warns the MC to not have a relationship with her. She's a morally grey character, you can't tell "she's in the mafia, so she's automatically bad" if you don't accept her for whatever reason that's fine but do not use these kind of "excuses" to feel more good about yourself
That's why I love Alice
She doesn't hide or tell half-truths and if the MC (player) wants to move forward with the relationship he will have to accept her the way she is.
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BenoTF25

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dude tasers mad him almost die at level 2 and that's with just one that is weak. and the tech in this universe can literally take down mc.
I mean, that's his whole deal as well as Syla's, a harmful mutation born from her trauma.

But we have seen what some level four can do, or worse still, level 5 like the Trio of HERO, Malik blowing up planets and birthing suns out of his ass, with seemingly just a fraction of his true repertory, if MC is ever gonna be half what those three are, I dobut any amount of electricity created by common teach would make an actual difference, that talking about the upper levels, of course on his Fourth it might actually be very, very useful, but it would never be something super overpowered that would break the story, Deus and the Trio already do that on the 'Human' side.
 
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UncleFappy

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that requires power to do through and if he had a suit that isn't made from his power he could gain better control of it and maybe even get infinite power but i doubt that will happen seeing as how that wouldn't be good story wise.
He could carry a little stungun like device or something, I suppose. He's carried items on his person while shapeshifting and during fights before. Maybe tell Daryl to tweak the little sphere with all the weapon/tool data to also generate electricity on command or something.
 

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I like your spirit but you got several things wrong.

If we're talking about italian mafia then it's true that they're in the drug business and maybe they have some hands in sex trafficking even tho that's more the chinese territory, also they almost always dare not to have any kind of this business with kids and stuff as they still have some slight sense of honor.

It can happen, surely it has happened some other time by now but it isn't an habit or a tendency.

Now if we're talking about the mafia in-game they are in drug business too but it's never mentioned any kind of stuff that gets kids involved so we can safely assume that it isn't an issue if not for some individuals.

Edit: also it's a bit of a stretch as Alice has never told anyone that she's innocent, she knows that she's "an horrible person" and she even warns the MC to not have a relationship with her. She's a morally grey character, you can't tell "she's in the mafia, so she's automatically bad" if you don't accept her for whatever reason that's fine but do not use these kind of "excuses" to feel more good about yourself
I was agreeing till you called her morally grey I romance her everytime but bro she is evil lol kidnapping children and killing who knows how many innocents on the daily or supplying drugs world wide to ruin the young and what not, nothing about Alice is morally grey she is good to people she loves and cares for that's about it but she is by no means morally grey that chick evil bro
 

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I dont know where you all are getting this whole, "The Alderman family kidnaps, rapes and kills kids" shit from. Alice directly states that most of their businesses are legitimate these days. Their only illegal revenue routes are stated to be from drugs and prostitution. Sure, they kill people, especially Alice, but what fucking criminal org doesnt? As for the alleged rape, considering her personal history I dont believe she would let shit like that fly easily in an org she is supposed to be leading.
 

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A year and a half in the Monster world y'all. Human world is getting invaded by monsters, quite literally everything had changed by now. I was expecting a rematch with Cole but I don't think it will be the same, I think Cole doesn't give a fuck about us now- IF he even remember Mc thanks to whatever Tanos was doing. Lv4's evolve faster than lv3's (I think) and by now he's probably incredibly able with his abilities. Still, MAYBE we'll see him as an ally now that monsters are the bigger threat and not S.I.N any longer?

I think the group is definitely helping H.E.R.O and not doing their own thing, they are still the biggest fish out there and they have enormous resources where we can benefit from. I just hope that we can get moments with Deryl again, maybe a third round BUT us being the monsters? That would be kinda cool, seeing a true, canon corrupted Mc evolution and not just glimpses nor the eye.
 

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I was agreeing till you called her morally grey I romance her everytime but bro she is evil lol kidnapping children and killing who knows how many innocents on the daily or supplying drugs world wide to ruin the young and what not, nothing about Alice is morally grey she is good to people she loves and cares for that's about it but she is by no means morally grey that chick evil bro
I'm sorry, like I said in the new post, you are free to think of her any different from me.

I was wrong in calling her in an absolutistic way, I meant it in my view and I hadn't specified so I got it wrong. I was just so overwhelmed and believe it or not when I wrote that post I was on the phone with someone lol.
 
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I dont know where you all are getting this whole, "The Alderman family kidnaps, rapes and kills kids" shit from. Alice directly states that most of their businesses are legitimate these days. Their only illegal revenue routes are stated to be from drugs and prostitution. Sure, they kill people, especially Alice, but what fucking criminal org doesnt? As for the alleged rape, considering her personal history I dont believe she would let shit like that fly easily in an org she is supposed to be leading.
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How strong is a superhuman during Evolution High? In Battle of Diamond, the 4th states that a 300-power MC can win against a 900-power Cole. Is it some kind of future foresight, or is the buff really just that strong?
 

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How strong is a superhuman during Evolution High? In Battle of Diamond, the 4th states that a 300-power MC can win against a 900-power Cole. Is it some kind of future foresight, or is the buff really just that strong?
Mc said to Deryl that he was believing being stronger now (so around 700-800 when he said that) than he was during his trance back then,but the trance isnt just about more power , it's also about the maximisation of knowledge and power. (like the scythe for example, he was able to use it during his trance but not after for some time)

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So yes the boost is quite strong in more way than one and mc probably could have win back then too since he was able to win with a gap to 400 power during their fight, and Cole was also weaker than he was during his fight against mc since a few month passed after Diamond battle (even if we take a low estimation and we assume that mc in a trance back then could have been similar to 400-500 (so 100-200 more power) and Cole had let say around 800 (100 less), it would have been quite similar to their first fight.)
 
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How strong is a superhuman during Evolution High? In Battle of Diamond, the 4th states that a 300-power MC can win against a 900-power Cole. Is it some kind of future foresight, or is the buff really just that strong?
I agree with kibaris. With the trance letting him operate at maximum capacity, the MC would have actually have been able to combo Cole to hell and back. I have doubts the trance would have let him use advanced Memory-based powers like Memory Lock: Liquid early, and Cole still wouldn't make it easy, but dropping him would be very much doable.

Cole's lack of skill and versatility for his level would do him in, and he wouldn't have his knife to cover for it during the Battle of Diamonds. Body Heat is inefficient outside of short range, meaning he's stuck with short range heat rays and Head Bursts. He'd have no effective way to keep the MC out of the air, have a much shorter window to shoot down the MC's now spammable Mantis Harpoons, and he'd be quite likely to get devastated if he tried to do anything other than run from the MC's Mantis Spear or Heavy Scythe since he can't counter them with a Heat Flare. His passive defence would make the MC strain his lesser internal MP pool dearly to do it, but Cole would definitely end up dying in a 1v1 scenario with a mid-trance MC.
 
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