VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[RogerRoger23]

You're confusing the scene. That's another death. In reality, she does kill us when she knows we have a perfect shapeshifting without having to have perfect knowledge about things. But I'm not sure if that death continues or if it's already eliminated from the game. The death you're talking about is another one where we fight her and steal her pills. or we have a sex scene with her, something like that was the scene of that death

You are wrong, according to Weird World dead end 6 "Don't tell people what the don't need to know" which is the one were it looks like Ella kills you is a shortened version of dead end 3 "Too strong, too soon".

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Uff. Okay, so Syla was a monster after all. MC is a half-breed. Didn't fucking expect that rat fuck TANOS to be involved in MC's past, though.

Curious where all this Ella character building is going. She's definitely coming back somehow. Kinda neat to see how Syla is the inspiration for her Big Sis schtick. You can kinda see how she models her personality after Syla somewhat, too. Cute.

The Indra fight was pretty dope. Syla being able to manifest into other people and straight up replicate their powers was super cool. As well as all the combat uses for memor powers. That was neat. One thing I'm not sure I understood was: is the lightning an inherent weakness to Syla/MC or is it just a mental block manifesting as a physical weakness? Like post-Crisis Martian Manhunter. It kinda seems to just be the mental block, but it seems she overcomes it in her final moments... and yet years later, MC still has it?

The Indra/Syla flashback was kinda sweet, too. Liked seeing a more buddy-buddy side to them. Curious to find out why the Chosen started Highlandering each other. Probably to reconstruct SuperGod, but we'll see.

The "others" wiped from Indra's mind are the other Chosen? Aggy, Eis, Val, etc. Kinda felt like it might be her family or something, not just MC. Which led me back to Ella mentioning how she and MC were the last ones of some unknown group.

Anyways: Kill list no 1 is now Indra, the cunt. Tanos got demoted to 2.


EDIT: AND ONE MORE THING. What is the deal with Ella and memory powers? There was that Dead End early on where if MC reveals he has memory powers, she snaps and kills him, saying something about how he was already perfect. I thought that was an indicator that she couldn't do the memory thing, that as a Chosen of the Third, she was specced fully into Body. But Dollella has shown that she can do memory shenanigans, too. So why was it such a big deal that MC could do it, when he was infected by the same monsters as her?

EDIT 2: AND ANOTHER THING. MC is meant to be a perfect balance of Body and Memory, right? Thats what the deal with the EyeGuy is. MC is like a Chosen, but instead of being spec'd into one element/attribute/whatever-you-call-this, he's got the God package. The creature the twin gods used to be. One of the six singularities at the dawn of creation. Right?

Syla and MC actually technically don't have an electricity weakness. What happened is that Syla had developed a mutation, which she genetically passed on to the MC, where being struck by lightning generates insane amounts of energy. The problem is that the energy is uncontrolled and usually goes haywire. But in the fight against Indra, Syla manages to finally learn to control the energy gained from lightning in order to finish erasing MC and Stephen from Indra's mind. It is presumed that the MC will eventually learn how to do this as well, possibly during Level 4.

From what I understand and theorize, Ella was born with next to no Memory abilities. She later gained some degree of Memory powers by fulfilling trials for the 4th, such as her eyes. MC is a really big deal because it shows he inherited both the Body trait and the Memory trait, showing that he was already born perfect.

MC is a nearly perfect balance between Body and Memory, we believe it's 50% Body, 49% Memory, 1% other (due to Syla's shenanigans making herself not perfect in Memory in order to become a human and get pregnant with Stephen's kid). This is why Syla is so concerned about the 4th potentially not accepting the MC, since he isn't a perfect match. We aren't 100% sure if the Eye is one of the Arbiters (this one in particular being Evolution), but its the theory with the greatest possibility of being correct. Even if he is, its heavily implied that the Evolution trait is independent of the Body and Memory traits, so he has yet to truly awaken the power, if he is indeed a potential inheritor of it.

 

[Beelzebub De La Gula]

Why are you so sure ? She likely does not, it makes no sense for her to, and the prominent theory is that in both dead ends she takes the Mc to the third or fourth. She likely cuts off his head or cleaves his body in two, merely incapacitating him.
The only time she kills the Mc is when he chooses to kill Christie.

Why are you so sure ? She likely does not, it makes no sense for her to, and the prominent theory is that in both dead ends she takes the Mc to the third or fourth. She likely cuts off his head or cleaves his body in two, merely incapacitating him.
The only time she kills the Mc is when he chooses to kill Christie.

Because I'm sure simple I've played this game more than 20 times and that death generated discussion even in the official discord. If the scene is not there it will be because they removed it because I remember that scene very well and how there were discussions about why she killed us. There are several scenes from the game that are removed and modified, such as Aglaecwif, she was chosen from memory in previous versions and was changed to be chosen from fantasy.

 

[Beelzebub De La Gula]

You are wrong, according to Weird World dead end 6 "Don't tell people what the don't need to know" which is the one were it looks like Ella kills you is a shortened version of dead end 3 "Too strong, too soon".

You are wrong, according to Weird World dead end 6 "Don't tell people what the don't need to know" which is the one were it looks like Ella kills you is a shortened version of dead end 3 "Too strong, too soon".

That is the scene of the apostle. There is another one that will kill us if we tell him about our perfect shapeshifting, but maybe that scene is no longer there.

 

[Beelzebub De La Gula]

You are wrong, according to Weird World dead end 6 "Don't tell people what the don't need to know" which is the one were it looks like Ella kills you is a shortened version of dead end 3 "Too strong, too soon".

I think I got the subject wrong. I thought you were saying that she wouldn't kill us if we told her our secret.

 

[Jonathan Y]

Because I'm sure simple I've played this game more than 20 times and that death generated discussion even in the official discord. If the scene is not there it will be because they removed it because I remember that scene very well and how there were discussions about why she killed us. There are several scenes from the game that are removed and modified, such as Aglaecwif, she was chosen from memory in previous versions and was changed to be chosen from fantasy.

You could read the entire game another 20 times and you would still be wrong. If it was a retcon that does not change anything at the present, there is no evidence to indicate Ella killed the player in that scene, her goal in the early game if she finds the Mc has both traits is to take him to the two Apostles, she does this the first time they fight in the Too Strong Too Soon dead end, it is logical she does the same in the next dead end when he tells her of his memory traits. It makes no logical sense from a lore nor character perspective for her to kill the Mc in that scene.

 

[UncleFappy]

Ella didn't kill the MC in dead end 6, in dead end 6 Ella takes MC to meet the 3rd but the 7th intercepts them killing the avatar of the 3rd, Ella, and the MC; this is shortened to what we see in game because its a repeat of dead end 3 too strong, too soon.
Ella is a greater spawned of the Body and genetically she is very aligned with the body, we have no idea how much but probably upwards of 90%, both of these things gives her more precise control of her body compared to the MC, but as a result cant use memories as guide to her powers. The 3rd and 4th offered Ella the chance to be a split which would give her both powers, but lost the opportunity when she refused to kill Christi during the middle school massacre, the MC on the other hand is perfect because his genetics are nearly 50/50 body and memory and doesn't need anything more from the apostles to have both powers.

Basically Body and Memory are buddies and want a shared Chosen. Originally they thought Ella could be it, even if she was 100% Body. So they made her go through a series of rituals to make her more attuned to memory and that's how she got a modicum of Memory powers. But in the end she screwed up the final ritual when she should've killed/sacrificed her whole school, because she couldn't kill Christie.

Ahhhhh. Ok, ok. That explains that. Ella just killing him like that was so against what her whole schtick was in the rest of the game, so that was sticking out as weird to me.

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[UncleFappy]

Syla and MC actually technically don't have an electricity weakness. What happened is that Syla had developed a mutation, which she genetically passed on to the MC, where being struck by lightning generates insane amounts of energy. The problem is that the energy is uncontrolled and usually goes haywire. But in the fight against Indra, Syla manages to finally learn to control the energy gained from lightning in order to finish erasing MC and Stephen from Indra's mind. It is presumed that the MC will eventually learn how to do this as well, possibly during Level 4.

Oh, so it is a physical thing. Being able to absorb that energy sounds pretty useful, yeah. Pretty big advantage against someone like Indra whose whole thing is lightning. Met, too.

Now that I think about it, I guess we technically saw him do it when he evolved against Klaus. He gets blasted with electricity and then bulks up like he's gonna pop, but then the power in him eats up the swelling energy and I think it partly fuels the evolution iirc.

From what I understand and theorize, Ella was born with next to no Memory abilities. She later gained some degree of Memory powers by fulfilling trials for the 4th, such as her eyes. MC is a really big deal because it shows he inherited both the Body trait and the Memory trait, showing that he was already born perfect.

MC is a nearly perfect balance between Body and Memory, we believe it's 50% Body, 49% Memory, 1% other (due to Syla's shenanigans making herself not perfect in Memory in order to become a human and get pregnant with Stephen's kid). This is why Syla is so concerned about the 4th potentially not accepting the MC, since he isn't a perfect match. We aren't 100% sure if the Eye is one of the Arbiters (this one in particular being Evolution), but its the theory with the greatest possibility of being correct. Even if he is, its heavily implied that the Evolution trait is independent of the Body and Memory traits, so he has yet to truly awaken the power, if he is indeed a potential inheritor of it.

Mmmm, so Tanos' treatment stabilizing Syla made her "impure", and she passed that on to MC. Gotcha.

Thanks.

 

[should i fuck all guys?]

Okay, should i fuck all guys? now you seriously have to tell me how Alice being in the mafia put you off 'cause I can't understand it in the context of this game

Spoiler: fun

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[should i fuck all guys?]

Oh, so it is a physical thing. Being able to absorb that energy sounds pretty useful, yeah. Pretty big advantage against someone like Indra whose whole thing is lightning. Met, too.

Now that I think about it, I guess we technically saw him do it when he evolved against Klaus. He gets blasted with electricity and then bulks up like he's gonna pop, but then the power in him eats up the swelling energy and I think it partly fuels the evolution iirc.


Mmmm, so Tanos' treatment stabilizing Syla made her "impure", and she passed that on to MC. Gotcha.

Thanks.

i wonder if we can set up a suit that coastally sends electric shocks through the mc so that way we can regen power without having to eat and even gain power faster.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

i wonder if we can set up a suit that coastally sends electric shocks through the mc so that way we can regen power without having to eat and even gain power faster.

Doesn't even really need a suit. He's already touched electric eels and if necessary can just shock himself on command.

 

[should i fuck all guys?]

Doesn't even really need a suit. He's already touched electric eels and if necessary can just shock himself on command.

that requires power to do through and if he had a suit that isn't made from his power he could gain better control of it and maybe even get infinite power but i doubt that will happen seeing as how that wouldn't be good story wise.

 

[BenoTF25]

With the topic of morality coming up, anyone else find how the Corruption on the MC works a bit strange?, or at least curious.

MC on a full corruption route began to act rather cold, his emotions become dull and he is unable to even make simple displays of affection such as give a hug, and this might be just me, but I feel like he lose some of his personality, essentially becoming empty when compared to a mid corruption or 'heroic' route. Now, here is the strange/curious thing for me, no matter how corrupt MC can become(Eye aside) as of latest update, is impossible that he has more corruption than either Nyx or Malik since corruption seem to be something that build up no matter what, as long you kill and enforce violence, yet those two keep a large amount of personality, Nyx being rather chatty and making jests here and there, and Malik being overall a friendly guy, who even keep a sort of morality, despite being on the boat of make whatever is necessary, and again, those two must be at the lowest, twice as corrupted as MC, especially Malik, that guy was a walking nuke during the unification wars, his kill count must be on the hundreds of thousands, if not more.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

With the topic of morality coming up, anyone else find how the Corruption on the MC works a bit strange?, or at least curious.

MC on a full corruption route began to act rather cold, his emotions become dull and he is unable to even make simple displays of affection such as give a hug, and this might be just me, but I feel like he lose some of his personality, essentially becoming empty when compared to a mid corruption or 'heroic' route. Now, here is the strange/curious thing for me, no matter how corrupt MC can become(Eye aside) as of latest update, is impossible that he has more corruption than either Nyx or Malik since corruption seem to be something that build up no matter what, as long you kill and enforce violence, yet those two keep a large amount of personality, Nyx being rather chatty and making jests here and there, and Malik being overall a friendly guy, who even keep a sort of morality, despite being on the boat of make whatever is necessary, and again, those two must be at the lowest, twice as corrupted as MC, especially Malik, that guy was a walking nuke during the unification wars, his kill count must be on the hundreds of thousands, if not more.

It's been stated that the effects of corruption depend on the individual. We've heard that corruption at the higher levels actually affects the powers of the superhumans in question.

 

[BenoTF25]

that requires power to do through and if he had a suit that isn't made from his power he could gain better control of it and maybe even get infinite power but i doubt that will happen seeing as how that wouldn't be good story wise.

I dobut any possible suit made of tech, could generate the same amount of energy MC could get from simply generating it himself once he overcome his weakness, like, we have seen just how large in scale anything produced by a level four or five can be, and he already has the electric eel transformation

 

[Dipasimaan]

Spoiler: fun

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I like your spirit but you got several things wrong.

If we're talking about italian mafia then it's true that they're in the drug business and maybe they have some hands in sex trafficking even tho that's more the chinese territory, also they almost always dare not to have any kind of this business with kids and stuff as they still have some slight sense of honor.

It can happen, surely it has happened some other time by now but it isn't an habit or a tendency.

Now if we're talking about the mafia in-game they are in drug business too but it's never mentioned any kind of stuff that gets kids involved so we can safely assume that it isn't an issue if not for some individuals.

Edit: also it's a bit of a stretch as Alice has never told anyone that she's innocent, she knows that she's "an horrible person" and she even warns the MC to not have a relationship with her. She's a morally grey character, you can't tell "she's in the mafia, so she's automatically bad" if you don't accept her for whatever reason that's fine but do not use these kind of "excuses" to feel more good about yourself

 

[King_In_Yellow]

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I like your spirit but you got several things wrong.

If we're talking about italian mafia then it's true that they're in the drug business and maybe they have some hands in sex trafficking even tho that's more the chinese territory, also they almost always dare not to have any kind of this business with kids and stuff as they still have some slight sense of honor.

It can happen, surely it has happened some other time by now but it isn't an habit or a tendency.

Now if we're talking about the mafia in-game they are in drug business too but it's never mentioned any kind of stuff that gets kids involved so we can safely assume that it isn't an issue if not for some individuals.

Edit: also it's a bit of a stretch as Alice has never told anyone that she's innocent, she knows that she's "an horrible person" and she even warns the MC to not have a relationship with her. She's a morally grey character, you can't tell "she's in the mafia, so she's automatically bad" if you don't accept her for whatever reason that's fine but do not use these kind of "excuses" to feel more good about yourself

That's why I love Alice
She doesn't hide or tell half-truths and if the MC (player) wants to move forward with the relationship he will have to accept her the way she is.

 

[should i fuck all guys?]

I dobut any possible suit made of tech, could generate the same amount of energy MC could get from simply generating it himself once he overcome his weakness, like, we have seen just how large in scale anything produced by a level four or five can be, and he already has the electric eel transformation

dude tasers mad him almost die at level 2 and that's with just one that is weak. and the tech in this universe can literally take down mc.

 

[should i fuck all guys?]

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I like your spirit but you got several things wrong.

If we're talking about italian mafia then it's true that they're in the drug business and maybe they have some hands in sex trafficking even tho that's more the chinese territory, also they almost always dare not to have any kind of this business with kids and stuff as they still have some slight sense of honor.

It can happen, surely it has happened some other time by now but it isn't an habit or a tendency.

Now if we're talking about the mafia in-game they are in drug business too but it's never mentioned any kind of stuff that gets kids involved so we can safely assume that it isn't an issue if not for some individuals.

Edit: also it's a bit of a stretch as Alice has never told anyone that she's innocent, she knows that she's "an horrible person" and she even warns the MC to not have a relationship with her. She's a morally grey character, you can't tell "she's in the mafia, so she's automatically bad" if you don't accept her for whatever reason that's fine but do not use these kind of "excuses" to feel more good about yourself

she is not morally grey and i don't have to use excuses to feel more good about myself compared to a child killer who kills thousands every year maybe you do cause you support child killing. and she thinks she's anywhere near mcs innocence level which is trying to say she's anywhere near innocent and are you seriously that dense? literally there's multiple studies showing kids get killed by drugs and i used the Italian mafia as an example maybe if you could read you'd know that. and no sex trafficking isn't just mostly Chinese territory its mostly near the pacific country's that aren't apart of China and aren't Chinese. and yes she as said she's innocent she even compared herself to mc who's a saint compared to her and did multiple half truths and lied multiple times. and guess what her mafia is literally WORLD WIDE DRUG PLACE and literally she already stated she uses common tactics which guess what is common? using kids as drug mules and drugging them up and kidnaping them at young ages that's what's common for drug mafias.
it wont let me put it as spoiler so i cant do anything

 

[BenoTF25]

dude tasers mad him almost die at level 2 and that's with just one that is weak. and the tech in this universe can literally take down mc.

I mean, that's his whole deal as well as Syla's, a harmful mutation born from her trauma.

But we have seen what some level four can do, or worse still, level 5 like the Trio of HERO, Malik blowing up planets and birthing suns out of his ass, with seemingly just a fraction of his true repertory, if MC is ever gonna be half what those three are, I dobut any amount of electricity created by common teach would make an actual difference, that talking about the upper levels, of course on his Fourth it might actually be very, very useful, but it would never be something super overpowered that would break the story, Deus and the Trio already do that on the 'Human' side.