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ScholarOfTheFirstSin
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Blond hair in this game kinda piss me off
MidnightJack
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Weirdly enough, I don't dislike Jake.
But if there's an opportunity to consume Jake like I did Kenny and gain his powers, I will do it without hesitation.
Incorporate their DNA to my own and use their memories of using their powers to advance my evil path of backstabbing everyone if I'm allowed.
Rutonat
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Because he's a fucking tool.
The second Ella starts showing him how his power works, he stops thinking for himself and believes everything she says without question. You could be the best friend he ever had to him, the second she tells him you're going to kill him to steal his strength, he believes it. The second she turns into you to act like a dick to him, even if it's the very first time it happens and the real you is again a good friend to him afterwards, he doesn't question what she said and decides she's right and you're a murderous monster.
He's a god damn idiot that lets himself get pushed just as much as before, just by a different person, and he justifies it in the most stupid way. He betrays you for the only reason that Ella told him to, starts toying with you friend's head, and does all he can to ruin your life for the sole reason he has mind control and someone told him to use it to destroy your life.
And finally, not only does he completely fry the brain of the girl who's been with him through thick and thin, but he compltely trust that Ella is good and will hold her promise to repair the damages, while even a 4yo would pick up that she isn't trustworthy in the slightest. But asking you, the guy with the same powers (remember that he knows what you can do), to help him heal her ? Fuck no. Better lock you away, throw the key and take a gamble with a double faced bitch.
I'd say that's kinda enough reasons to start hating that fucking jackass. At the very least it's enough to deserve a beating.
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CoalBurner
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It seems to be a sentiment that jake is just an asshole, I read it more as him being emotionally and mentally unstable after being bullied most of his life, only for him to get manipulated by the biggest bitch of them all, Ella. If in the next update he doesn't turn on Ella directly in some way after being told to finish the job, I'll probably join the dislike crowd. Only so spineless one guy can be.
Dysphorika
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Is curious how a person with mind control powers can be so easyly manipulable.
Also, you made me think, yes is true, Jake never through to go to MC to ask for help.
DrakoGhoul
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I don't dislike Jake, I just think he should die for all that he did to the MC and his friends. Some might say Ella played a part but she didn't force him with some of that stuff. He chose to do it himself. He's too weak willed and not trustworthy at all. That's why he's a dangerous variable to be kept alive. I'm surprised that there's still people who think he's redeemable after what he continued to do to them. The fact that he realized that Ella was behind most of this stuff but still chose to believe in her is what just further proves he's not worth the effort.
People would say it's because he's a dude and we don't like them but that's not the case. Deryl is a guy and so is Clark and Deus. I like all 3 of them and want to hang out with Clark and Deus as they seem interesting. It's Jake's actions that put him in this position. You might say "what about Ella then?" and I would say she'll get her's when the time is right, in whatever capacity allowed. What about Danica? She paid the price and turned over a new leaf afterwards. She also has the benefit of not messing with any of our friends and kept it strictly between us throughout all of our altercations.
KingWeWuz
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Did I read his patreon posts correctly? It's barely been a month and he's planning to release another large update soon?
DrakoGhoul
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It's been over 35 days(not sure if the week delay here is included or not) but yeah this is great news. I'm in the mood for more of this game now. I was a bit burned out a few weeks ago from the non stop playing but I'm now ready for this huge finale. Hopefully it's as wild as the Klaus fight.
AlphaBlondie
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ScholarOfTheFirstSin
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I hope its not finale
Our mc just barely got to evo lv 2
there are two more evolution to explore
ScholarOfTheFirstSin
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Try solution in this link i hope this help
https://f95zone.to/threads/renpy-games-crashing-on-startup.93729/
AlphaBlondie
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Finale of the Jake arc. I give it decent odds of MC reaching level 3 during it. Then there's levels 4 and 5, and potentially one more after that. So still plenty of runway after this arc.
Rutonat
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Yeah. Manipulation is a two man job. the "victim" has to let themselves be manipulated for it to work. Might not be conscious, but in Jake's case, the guy choose not to question Ella. He's as responsible for being manipulated as she is.
As weird as it is to say, Danica had honor. She went for her target, and only her target, unless someone put themselves specifically in her way. She could have used underhanded tactics, but she didn't. She was supposed to kill the MC, she went for the MC directly.
Jake uses the MC's friends against him. He could have pretty much turned them all against him, turned every one of his female friends into his slaves if he so choosed. The more that arc goes, the more it shows that Jake is letting go of any morals without making any effort to hang on to them.
Given enough time, he'd become just as bad as Ella, except worse due to his power.
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DrakoGhoul
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Not for the entire game lol. Just for Jake's storyline. We're probably nowhere near the end. Might not even be at the halfway point yet. After Jake, I'm guessing we're diving into Ella, figuratively and possibly literally. Or it could be more into Hero Organization. Ella's monster is going to cause chaos so we'll have to wait until this update to see where it goes.
Rutonat
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After Jake's arc, we have three points that can come into focus.
1. The HERO. Deus' message was cryptic as hell, and it's likely going to be expanded upon soon.
2. Ella's pair of monster. She released one, kept the other on standby. It's extremely likely that the next arc will have to do with at least the one she sent. Maybe at some point the other will join, or it'll be for a next arc.
3. Charlie. If you know the concept of Chekov's gun, you'll get that since Charlie has been shown a few times now, that's not random. She's going to come into focus soon.
1. The HERO. Deus' message was cryptic as hell, and it's likely going to be expanded upon soon.
2. Ella's pair of monster. She released one, kept the other on standby. It's extremely likely that the next arc will have to do with at least the one she sent. Maybe at some point the other will join, or it'll be for a next arc.
3. Charlie. If you know the concept of Chekov's gun, you'll get that since Charlie has been shown a few times now, that's not random. She's going to come into focus soon.
Nah. Just takeover his powers
The only things he did was not tell his friends about his powers and accidentally hurt a certain girl, which he deeply regrets.
I agree he's a very dangerous wildcard, but if MC would kill him there would be no chance to heal a certain girl.
DrakoGhoul
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Only thing? Jake used his powers on our friends several times. He made our female friends flash him, hurt Mia after trying to hurt Deryl and threatened to kill him if the MC left prison. The same prison that he put the MC in, himself. Depending on how you played, he also tries to make you kill yourself with his powers. We're way passed this sympathy act. The fact that he made(or think he made) Deryl his puppet to serve him afterwards is way too far.
The only things he did was not tell his friends about his powers and accidentally hurt a certain girl, which he deeply regrets.
I agree he's a very dangerous wildcard, but if MC would kill him there would be no chance to heal a certain girl.
And MC killing everyone that could be a danger to him would make him no better than Ella, who some people claim is evil, even though she runs an orphanage for homeless children (without sexually abusing them) and is a good mommy.
As for the MC killing everyone who's a threat part. We don't or I should say I don't intend to. Danica was a threat and I let her go, twice(optionally). I will do the same with members of Hero. The difference is Jake has shown he's not trustworthy, again and again. He does more harm than good at every chance because he's very easy to manipulate. Not to mention, Jake is the one who felt the need to target the MC first, in case you forgot. He's used his power(or tried) on us, unprovoked, on several occasions. Are we supposed to just sit back and take his bullshit while he toys with the MC and his friends unchallenged?
As for the Mia healing thing, Jake most likely isn't needed. If he was then he wouldn't need Ella specifically for it. Most likely it has something to do with Ella's powers which in turn mean the MC himself can fix her too. The reasons to keep Jake alive(or excuses in some cases) grow thinner and thinner each update as he mess up over and over again.
Rutonat
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I know more about what he lived through than you might think. Yet the first thought I had was that, even with such a reversal, backstabbing a guy that not only was friendly to you contrary to most other people (if not everyone else), but also stood up for you against someone you deemed untouchable, is fucked up. When you're bullied because you're an easy target at school, you keep your very few friends close.
He choose to consider he didn't need you anymore since he had powers. He choose to ruin your life because he could. Simping or not, Ella doesn't seem interested in his dick in the slightest, so I highly doubt she's making him believe he'll get anything out of her. He choose the easy path because he's a coward. He went from being used by Jared to being used by Ella. He didn't changed his situation, he just traded one bully for another and kicked out the only person protecting him in the process.
I'd say false. The prison "experiment" scene states clearly that the MC finds out healing others is very easy, as the body tends to try to fix itself on its own, function that ends up fuelled by his power. Jake didn't brainwash her, he wrecked her brain, fried it, caused physical damages. Damages that the MC can heal. That's something Jake could have known if he had bothered to talk with the MC rather than backstabbing for the potentiality that someday maybe Ella would think about considering the idea of helping him. Because when she says she will, even a 4yo would notice she doesn't think a word of it.
Sure, before the prison part, the MC didn't knew how to do that, but he did know for quite a bit that it was a possibility. And the MC is league above Ella when talking about being trustworthy. Especially since she's not "some girl" for him, but his friend as well as Jake's.
Also my money is on the high possibility that, when she wakes up/gets healed, if Jake is still alive, she'll be terrified of him, which is likely going to wreck him and cause him to do something stupid.
Yeah. It's not like Ella's known by now to pretty much never do anything without ulterior motive or anything.
She totally runs that orphenage out of pure compassion and the goodness of her heart...
Seriously she might not be abusing them or outright torturing them, but if you think she's doing it for a purely altruistic purpose, you're fooling yourself. She clearly proved she doesn't value other people's lives.