mrttao

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Thank you very much for mentioning that. I must of missed that which means Papa Syther needs to do another playthrough to get his memory straight.
well, either that, or I am senile.

BTW that girl also shows up during the invasion of the demiplane when ella dies (or does she?)
 

RonaldGrand6969

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well, either that, or I am senile.

BTW that girl also shows up during the invasion of the demiplane when ella dies (or does she?)
Ella's "children" are:
-Cole (The oldest)
-Zara
-The guy in the blue hoodie
-Shen (The youngest)
-Charlie (unofficially)

-Cole has like temperature powers or whatever, lots of heat.
-Zara has a sort of truth serum stick/head explosion thing.
-I don't know what the hoodie guy has but someone said one of them has plant powers and by process of elimination that leaves him having Plant based abilities probably.
-Shen has...perception? Kinda like Demi but way more in depth and precise. He's a bit of an odd one so far.
-And then Charlie's got like a criteria thing going on that make you do whatever the rule dictates. It's a whole thing.
 

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I think the head explosion was cole using heat power
Ah! So then she's only the true serum? There's gotta be more to it than that she's what, a Lvl 3? What bout those marks that the S.I.N members were getting was that her doing as well? True serum and slave marks don't really corelate to each other...
 

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The way I understand it, SIN's scheme works like that:
Zara's marks provide information about the location of the target (probably among other things, but we don't know about them yet). They work no matter if she personally places the mark or if someone else paints it.
Once someone marks himself, Zara can pinpoint the location and instruct the Hexenringe to teleport him, probably to SIN's headquarters.
There, the prospect swears an oath to Charlie. The oath probably has to do with keeping some things secret, like the names of SIN's management, which is why Nyx's prisoners died when they tried to give information.

We don't have any idea about the extend of Zara's power but her marks currently don't seem to do anything more than track the marked person.
Some possibilities is that she uses the marks as
Homing beacons for projectile based attacks.
Getting knowledge about the marked target's ntent so she can fight better against them. Better targeting, better dodging/damage mitigation, some other unique insight.
Use the mark to influence behavior.

She could also be a communication specialist, allowing the marked people to create links and communicate telepathically at distance, perhaps even sharing knowledge and unique insight non verbally..
 
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So for me, I believe that most people just hate that she's vocally prejudice against people, can be extremely selfish and doesn't care about the MC's status as MC. It all seems to come down to the player's own ego. Minus the Valravn thing, Nico has done nothing to the player, specifically, besides trash talk him during their first encounter while ignoring his existence. Something she doesn't do after but because she did it, it's a permanent hate boner for her.
I definitely only just hate her because she's an asshole, she's a well written character though. She's the type of person I'd hear speak in real life once, and I'd nope out of there and never interact with them again. Trashtalking the mc isn't necessarily my problem with her, it's just her overall personality that I have a problem with, of course the mc got trashtalked because of said personality but that's more incidental than anything else. Love her design visually though and am looking forward to when we can take her down a peg or two, same as with Ella.
 

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The way I understand it, SIN's scheme works like that:
Zara's marks provide information about the location of the target (probably among other things, but we don't know about them yet). They work no matter if she personally places the mark or if someone else paints it.
Once someone marks himself, Zara can pinpoint the location and instruct the Hexenringe to teleport him, probably to SIN's headquarters.
There, the prospect swears an oath to Charlie. The oath probably has to do with keeping some things secret, like the names of SIN's management, which is why Nyx's prisoners died when they tried to give information.

We don't have any idea about the extend of Zara's power but her marks currently don't seem to do anything more than track the marked person.
Some possibilities is that she uses the marks as
Homing beacons for projectile based attacks.
Getting knowledge about the marked target's ntent so she can fight better against them. Better targeting, better dodging/damage mitigation, some other unique insight.
Use the mark to influence behavior.

She could also be a communication specialist, allowing the marked people to create links and communicate telepathically at distance, perhaps even sharing knowledge and unique insight non verbally..
Zara's mark most likely has a sort of eavesdropping mechanic to it, yeah. When the MC talks with the HERO Captains after the Nico and Hex fight, you gain a point with Ella, if you don't tell everything. The MC was still marked by Zara during that entire thing.

I definitely only just hate her because she's an asshole, she's a well written character though. She's the type of person I'd hear speak in real life once, and I'd nope out of there and never interact with them again. Trashtalking the mc isn't necessarily my problem with her, it's just her overall personality that I have a problem with, of course the mc got trashtalked because of said personality but that's more incidental than anything else. Love her design visually though and am looking forward to when we can take her down a peg or two, same as with Ella.
I mean, that's what I said, no?

"Most people just hate that she's vocally prejudice against people, can be extremely selfish and doesn't care about the MC's status as MC".

You fall squarely in that camp, no? You might not hit that last mark for the MC thing but you do dislike that she's an asshole, overall. Which is the problem most people generally have with her. Even though her asshole tendencies aren't targeted towards them, for majority of her appearance. I don't care that she's an asshole to everyone, personally. My MC is one as well. So is Ella and several other characters in game.

Nico legit only did one harmful thing to the MC and that's leaving him hanging during the Valravn fight. Something she made up for by being on time and helping with the Cole thing. As well as actually helping us all escape Hex collapsing dimensional space. But no, she's an asshole to the MC once and to everyone else, so that's all negated, apparently. Ella telling us that she's manipulating our lives is cool for most people(not you specifically) but Nico being an asshole? That's the thing that's too far, I guess.

As for the bottom half, we're on the same page. I too look forward to bullying Nico, sexually. I don't care to knock Ella down though. I rather surpass her, so I don't have to follow her plans, and then ignore her existence completely. I feel like that would hurt her more than any other thing we could inflict on her.

Overall, I get your pov on the subject.
 

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A character I never really paid much attention to is Jess despite her having an important role during the cheerleader arc. I wonder if she'll appear again? I recall there being a scene with her and Jared's dad I believe in regards to the party (perhaps he has an interest in Jess beyond just that. Maybe an asset of sorts for SIN potentially in the future? Although that all fall aparts due to MC's influence...I'm not sure if the player can avoid that arc but if the player can perhaps Jess would be apart of SIN later on).

Edit: You can in fact skip the entire cheerleader arc (just avoid finding Deryl but of course you miss out on skill points).
 
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Ok you say Jess i say Tess what's with her she banged half the university boy not even milf goth monster was that thirsty XD
Some people just built like that for real. Can't get enough dick/pussy so they fuck whatever they can.
 

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Some people just built like that for real. Can't get enough dick/pussy so they fuck whatever they can.
I know i know but is she just a whore with a heart of gold? In the poker game how did she cheat? Was ella as her that time because gothcunt says that she creeps on us so yeah when was ella and when not fuck.......
 

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I know i know but is she just a whore with a heart of gold? In the poker game how did she cheat? Was ella as her that time because gothcunt says that she creeps on us so yeah when was ella and when not fuck.......
Could of potentially been Ella but I doubt it. How did she cheat? No fucking clue. Maybe she can read people well (their face) and conclude what they got goin on (thats my guess).
 

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Ok you say Jess i say Tess what's with her she banged half the university boy not even milf goth monster was that thirsty XD
I don't know about that. Aglaecwif claimed that a lot of those monsters out there were her children. Even Valravn calls her a "Daemon Whore". With her age added to it, her body count probably in the hundreds of thousands. :KEK:
 

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I don't know about that. Aglaecwif claimed that a lot of those monsters out there were her children. Even Valravn calls her a "Daemon Whore". With her age added to it, her body count probably in the hundreds of thousands. :KEK:
Yes but the witch is old old as fuck Tess has to many roads traveled for her age XD
 
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So are we gonna see Claudia rebirth this update ? I hope W.W don't do a dick move and turn her into a monster cuz that would be sad as fuck. So it is me or demi power is kind of dangerous Like jake dangerous i mean an army of zealots is more dangerous than an army of puppets man the MC cult A.K.A fanclub is a wasted oportunity oh well demi has the dani and jake package because we can do what fulgrim did to ferrus to him/her XD that is a head short of story lol. I know bad joke fuck you too.
 
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So are we gonna see Claudia rebirth this update ? I hope W.W don't do a dick move and turn her into a monster cuz that would be sad as fuck. So it is me or demi power is kind of dangerous Like jake dangerous i mean an army of zealots is more dangerous than an army of puppets man the MC cult A.K.A fanclub is a wasted oportunity oh well demi has the dani and jake package because we can do what fulgrim did to ferrus to him/her XD that is a head short of story lol. I know bad joke fuck you too.
If demi had greater control of their power and actually had the intent to do any harm with it they could be quite a scary person indeed. Personally I view Jake as a higher threat even if Demi had an army of zealots at their beck and call.

Another thing about Jake/Demi is we don't know how strong their powers could get. We know Jake can influence not only humans (quite a large amount too at the same time) but superhumans as well (low level superhumans but still) imagine how fucking insane he could get if he could influence level 5s he's a real threat meanwhile Demi had minimal influence on the MC (I think Demi even mentions the fact the MC didn't seem affected unlike the humans around them) so I think their power is a lesser variant of what Jake can do.

Although I guess its not too fair to compare Demi and Jake, Jake has had help from Ella meanwhile Demi was flying solo (unaware as well?) until MC assisted them a bit.
 
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Claudia should've went through her rebirth a bit after the wedding, I believe. The real question would be, what's her power going to be? From what we know, she's going to get powers from another Apostle corpse, not the same as Tiffany. Let's go through them all and see which ones we can probably guess.

1st - Unlikely
2nd - Unlikely
3rd - No
4th - No
5th - Possibly
6th - Possibly
7th - Unlikely
8th - No
9th - Likely
10th - Likely
11th - Likely
12th - Likely

Ok, so with this laid out there, I don't think we're getting anymore spawns under the 3rd or 4th. At least not Gen 1 or 2. We also know she's not getting the same as Tiffany so that rules out the Body Trait, Memory Trait and Light Trait.

The 1st, 2nd and 7th don't seem likely. The 7th only comes out when another Apostle is involved. The 2nd only comes if there's a tribute for him and likely won't come out unless there's one. The 1st likely didn't come out after the Jake thing. They would've still been out of commission by the 3rd and 4th in their realm, if you killed Jake too. I doubt WW would make a split like that for Claudia to get it, if Jake's alive but not if Jake's dead and the 1st is defeated by the 3rd and 4th. So for me, Authority Trait, Power Trait and Darkness Trait can be potentially ruled out.

5th and 6th seem possible. While HERO has Zack and Deus, I feel Dexter and Xanthe might bring on Claudia as a back up for a potential Time Trait, if that's the 5th. She wouldn't betray her sister and wouldn't use her power to betray them overall. The 6th is a tricky one but I feel like HERO needs a monster power like Hex, who can create a Dimension. While Nico is great for teleportation, they might need a refuge, if the world was ever threatened to be destroyed. Only problem with this is, I doubt the 6th has a corpse laying around after this update. Then again, Fairy Thing was badly injured. Maybe a fight broke out between the 6th and 7th? So, hypothetical Time Trait or Space Trait might be her powers.

The wild cards, The 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th. The main reason I feel like these are the likely ones for Claudia is because we know almost nothing about them. It's likely that if WW is going to introduce a new spawn of an Apostle, it'll come from the unknown ones. Like how Tiffany is from the 8th line. We don't know their traits, outside of theories, so it's hard to speculate what power she'll gain from either of those 4 Apostles. I just feel like this will be their debut.

So yeah, that's my thoughts on it. Possibly 5th and 6th, likely 9th - 12th. We might find out next update about those last two sets of Twin Apostles, since we're about to meet Papa Fairy. He might take a seat on Alice's huge tits and give us a history lesson. Teaching his daughter thing and her man thing some stuff about monsters.
 
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