VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[Dark T-Rex]

I think I understand the difference between Ella's shapeshifting and the MC's shapeshifting. Ella's shapeshifting is Body focused, in that she directly changes her molecular structure, whereas the MC's shapeshifting is Memory based, in that we can change based off of our memories of what we want to transform into. That's why Ella has trouble creating venom or poison, anything she would make would break down without her power to support it because it is like making a clone, whereas for us, it is a natural biological action caused by our changed cellular structure, meaning it doesn't need our support to keep it sticking around for longer. It also explains why Ella has no trouble changing her nails or anything else into steel, as it's just a molecular change, whereas the MC finds it difficult to read the memory of inanimate objects until he reaches level 2 and specifically needs Ella's memories of doing it to make the change happen. It also explains Ella's invulnerable state, she's not resisting an attack necessarily, she's stopping all changes to her bodies exact molecular structure at the time she activates the state.

Why is this important? Simply because I think this is the real reason that Ella doesn't understand how powerful Memory is compared to Body. Body would be best considered as the perfect spear, whereas Memory would be the perfect shield. You can see the difference in how Syla fights compared to Ella, whenever Ella is out ranged, she tends to act more generally protective of her total mass, compared to how Syla can just ignore any attack regardless of how fatal it should be. (At least in the mental world.) Additionally, Syla has the ability to use the forms of enemies she has defeated, like her daughters can use their powers to imitate a powerful individual, though based on Syla's fight with Indra, if they are beaten then she cannot use them anymore. Conversely, Ella's attacks are almost always extremely effective in any fight she's in, while Syla tends to struggle to do any lasting physical damage most of the time.

That’s a good explanation because there are 2 types of superhumans: physical and non-physical. Ella’s body trait is obviously physical, while Syla’s memory trait is non-physical due to memories and immaterial things. The MC is an extremely rare case because he carries both traits within him, making him a superhuman that has physical and non-physical powers.

Syla also said that because of the MC’s 50/50 power split, he has to work harder than other superhumans to maximize his potential. To not just master both sides, but to combine them together into something stronger. If he can do that, it’s possible he will be able to do things that neither Ella nor Syla could do on their own.

 

[Shadowdragon]

Thinking about it more, I think I know where our power will be heading, at least if it's following the trend of mixing the two to create a greater whole. Ella's style of constantly changing, working through our tails, mixed with Syla's ability to use the memories of others to replicate their powers. How? Technically, during her fight with Indra, Syla showed that she can not just use the physique of a monster to it's advantage, but that she could use their powers as well. It's only shown for a small part of the fight, but Syla was specifically trying to use Eisheth's powers (And I think she actually used Aos' but someone should correct me if I'm wrong) before Indra destroyed her memories of Eisheth's power. Additionally, those of Syla's kind can specifically use powers of other beings, superhuman or monster, even though her daughters only have the power of Memory. Even in the real world, though presumably at a high cost. Mix them together and what do you get? A clone army of beings you can replicate endlessly because unlike Syla, who had to use her true body to replicate their strength, we can copy enough high quality memories into our tails to use a power or two, without losing our original copy of the memories (Which is probably why Syla could only use a memory until it was destroyed, as that either severed her connection, or more likely destroyed the memory that she was using. The latter would explain why when we were escaping from S.I.N. that Syla said, "You still remember Goliath," because most of her exceptional memories were destroyed in her fight against Indra.)

Of course, that could all change depending on if we are simply going to follow the 3rd or 4th's desires for us, or if we're going to commit fully to breaking free like how the judge in the Truth path said that we could. If anything, that might be the real turning point, whether we let ourselves evolve in a deadly situation, or whether we die, but use our powers in the dream world to somehow activate Nyx's mark and allow ourselves to be reborn as something potentially more that what either would allow for. Could be an abnormally powerful spawn, unchained from their source, an individual capable of hosting an arbiter or simply whatever we were capable of becoming from the day the Eye showed up.

 

[Dipasimaan]

This story really went to shit huh? Unfortunate.

 

[RabbidSupreme]

Why is this important? Simply because I think this is the real reason that Ella doesn't understand how powerful Memory is compared to Body. Body would be best considered as the perfect spear, whereas Memory would be the perfect shield. You can see the difference in how Syla fights compared to Ella, whenever Ella is out ranged, she tends to act more generally protective of her total mass, compared to how Syla can just ignore any attack regardless of how fatal it should be. (At least in the mental world.) Additionally, Syla has the ability to use the forms of enemies she has defeated, like her daughters can use their powers to imitate a powerful individual, though based on Syla's fight with Indra, if they are beaten then she cannot use them anymore. Conversely, Ella's attacks are almost always extremely effective in any fight she's in, while Syla tends to struggle to do any lasting physical damage most of the time.

I was with with you until this last part. You're only source for Syla struggling to do damage is from a grand total of 1 fight, with an extremely powerful monster.

 

[INquiop]

Hey do u guys think we will have to fight spirits in the future since its confirmed there are ghost and such i would not be surprised if we encounter an intangible enemy's who will only get hurt by non physical or possibly elemental attacks. If so we are fucked since we are physical right now we still don't have any energy based attacks that hurts you not only on body but soul to

 

[Shadowdragon]

I was with with you until this last part. You're only source for Syla struggling to do damage is from a grand total of 1 fight, with an extremely powerful monster.

Syla herself says that those of the Memory are generally weaker in direct attack power than those of any other monster. That's why instead of trying to kill Indra, she tried to erase his memories of everyone he planned to kill, including herself. That's the whole reason she keeps saying her plan is becoming more and more complete in her fight with Indra; she was never trying to kill him, she planned to weaken him enough that she can erase specific memories from the beginning.

 

[Sayajin2205]

Hey do u guys think we will have to fight spirits in the future since its confirmed there are ghost and such i would not be surprised if we encounter an intangible enemy's who will only get hurt by non physical or possibly elemental attacks. If so we are fucked since we are physical right now we still don't have any energy based attacks that hurts you not only on body but soul to

Does not really matter tbh the mc is only fucked if the opponent is a lot stronger so even if the opponent is untouchable to harm from mc but is on par or weaker than the mc they wouldn't be really able to harm the mc as all those hax like powers clash and only work on the other person if they are relative in power or they have some advantage.So unless Mc finds someone very strong he should be good and if he finds someone that strong then he would be cooked even if they were a normal physical opponent lol not everyone has skills issue like cole haha.

 

[obibobi]

Syla herself says that those of the Memory are generally weaker in direct attack power than those of any other monster. That's why instead of trying to kill Indra, she tried to erase his memories of everyone he planned to kill, including herself. That's the whole reason she keeps saying her plan is becoming more and more complete in her fight with Indra; she was never trying to kill him, she planned to weaken him enough that she can erase specific memories from the beginning.

Yeah, with their own bodies, Nyx was worried about fighting the lesser version of Syla which would have been vastly less powerful because it had the ability to pull her strongest opponent from her memories so it could potentially summon Malik.

 

[Shadowdragon]

Yeah, with their own bodies, Nyx was worried about fighting the lesser version of Syla which would have been vastly less powerful because it had the ability to pull her strongest opponent from her memories so it could potentially summon Malik.

True, but Nicolette even says that they burn through their power very quickly when they copy someone stronger than themselves. Even if Syla is in the dream world, I can't imagine copying someone stronger like Val (Probably) or Indra would be cost efficient. That's why (At least it is implied) that she was using the powers of those she had already defeated. While less powerful than herself, they would likely be significantly more cost efficient and would make her more versatile than if she didn't risk those memories. That still doesn't mean that they are as capable with those powers as the original user was when they fought, or as strong as they would become after they fought. After all, like it or not they are only memories of a fight already fought, not the copying of a power directly.

 

[Dark T-Rex]

Thinking about it more, I think I know where our power will be heading, at least if it's following the trend of mixing the two to create a greater whole. Ella's style of constantly changing, working through our tails, mixed with Syla's ability to use the memories of others to replicate their powers. How? Technically, during her fight with Indra, Syla showed that she can not just use the physique of a monster to it's advantage, but that she could use their powers as well. It's only shown for a small part of the fight, but Syla was specifically trying to use Eisheth's powers (And I think she actually used Aos' but someone should correct me if I'm wrong) before Indra destroyed her memories of Eisheth's power. Additionally, those of Syla's kind can specifically use powers of other beings, superhuman or monster, even though her daughters only have the power of Memory. Even in the real world, though presumably at a high cost. Mix them together and what do you get? A clone army of beings you can replicate endlessly because unlike Syla, who had to use her true body to replicate their strength, we can copy enough high quality memories into our tails to use a power or two, without losing our original copy of the memories (Which is probably why Syla could only use a memory until it was destroyed, as that either severed her connection, or more likely destroyed the memory that she was using. The latter would explain why when we were escaping from S.I.N. that Syla said, "You still remember Goliath," because most of her exceptional memories were destroyed in her fight against Indra.)

Of course, that could all change depending on if we are simply going to follow the 3rd or 4th's desires for us, or if we're going to commit fully to breaking free like how the judge in the Truth path said that we could. If anything, that might be the real turning point, whether we let ourselves evolve in a deadly situation, or whether we die, but use our powers in the dream world to somehow activate Nyx's mark and allow ourselves to be reborn as something potentially more that what either would allow for. Could be an abnormally powerful spawn, unchained from their source, an individual capable of hosting an arbiter or simply whatever we were capable of becoming from the day the Eye showed up.

There has been some foreshadowing of the MC eventually being able to copy the powers of other superhumans and monsters.

The MC asked Xanthe about this.


During a hunt, Nico introduced the M43: Silat, a monster that uses memories and concepts to shapeshift.

 

[Netao_Da_Caxixola]

i mean we can do the same just not copy powers like that thing

Yet

 

[GoblinLover01]

Geez that's where the fucking update ends?

 

[Allan Trumbull]

Android apk still not available ?

 

[StrontiumBob]

Like fr that review might be the weirdest one I have ever seen."The game doesn't go how I want it to go so I will give it 1 star".

This feels like the true meaning behind most of the criticisms of VN's I ever see. 'This doesn't give me what I wanted so it is ass!'

 

[Dipasimaan]

ok you try to create a game and ending that satisfies everyone in a multiple hour long game

Well also he wanted to enjoy the holidays, that's the main reason he cut down a little this update, otherwise he would've ended the Monster Arc by this one. Understandably he chose his sanity over a few more content.

 

[obibobi]

True, but Nicolette even says that they burn through their power very quickly when they copy someone stronger than themselves. Even if Syla is in the dream world, I can't imagine copying someone stronger like Val (Probably) or Indra would be cost efficient. That's why (At least it is implied) that she was using the powers of those she had already defeated. While less powerful than herself, they would likely be significantly more cost efficient and would make her more versatile than if she didn't risk those memories. That still doesn't mean that they are as capable with those powers as the original user was when they fought, or as strong as they would become after they fought. After all, like it or not they are only memories of a fight already fought, not the copying of a power directly.

They use their own power to fuel it, I think it would be very cost effective to get that sure fire kill. But Syla was just using it as a stall, she didn't have access to anyone stronger. From a writing perspective that moment was a way of showcasing just how strong Indra is by putting him against established characters/

We don't know the details on skill, this is all just guess work, what we do know is that Nyx was worried about fighting a much weaker monster because she was aware of how dangerous it was, so what we do know is they can use memories to punch far above their weight.

I think you've taken the line about memory doing weak direct damage too literally as in they can't ever be good at it, they can't shoot out laser beams directly, but they can indirectly.

 

[obibobi]

There has been some foreshadowing of the MC eventually being able to copy the powers of other superhumans and monsters.

I would strongly hope otherwise and his talk with Xanthe about powers not being tied to the body was a way for WW telling is he wouldn't be doing that. Shapeshifting and memory is not lacking for options, I would rather see the MC develop those instead of stealing someone else's.

 

[Grimnir098]

They use their own power to fuel it, I think it would be very cost effective to get that sure fire kill. But Syla was just using it as a stall, she didn't have access to anyone stronger. From a writing perspective that moment was a way of showcasing just how strong Indra is by putting him against established characters/

We don't know the details on skill, this is all just guess work, what we do know is that Nyx was worried about fighting a much weaker monster because she was aware of how dangerous it was, so what we do know is they can use memories to punch far above their weight.

I think you've taken the line about memory doing weak direct damage too literally as in they can't ever be good at it, they can't shoot out laser beams directly, but they can indirectly.

It was Nico, and she wasn't worried. She said she could outlast it but it would be annoying to fight Malik.

 

[Shadowdragon]

They use their own power to fuel it, I think it would be very cost effective to get that sure fire kill. But Syla was just using it as a stall, she didn't have access to anyone stronger. From a writing perspective that moment was a way of showcasing just how strong Indra is by putting him against established characters/

We don't know the details on skill, this is all just guess work, what we do know is that Nyx was worried about fighting a much weaker monster because she was aware of how dangerous it was, so what we do know is they can use memories to punch far above their weight.

I think you've taken the line about memory doing weak direct damage too literally as in they can't ever be good at it, they can't shoot out laser beams directly, but they can indirectly.

I'll grant that those monsters of Syla's line are good at direct damage, but they are only one monster of the memory line. Sure, some can become good at direct damage, but that line most likely means that the majority of monsters that use memory powers would be poorly suited to direct combat. Syla's line is an exception, not the rule. It is, again, the reason why she focused on the more realistic goal of erasing Indra's memories, and not killing him.

 

[XeroZero000]

Do you guys have any predictions on how it will end?

Mine is probably 100% wrong, but based on the vibe, I predict the ending will be pessimistic and gloomy.

I imagine the MC fighting the last boss of the season, but he loses the fight and is left to die.

And that's the point where he evolves to level 4.

The story would end there, with an epilogue showing the world burning in hell, his friends and family scattered and missing.

Last scene would probably be like MC waking up.

Well, that's just how I think it might end based on the vibe and my feeling, lmao.