INquiop

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I just realized that the twins are going to dominate the ocean back on earth when we go back cause who fuck can stop or contain the ocean they can already summon it from nothing but can turn into it and teleport through it. our 4th evolution has to be half or stronger than that with hat massive advantage since they just need time and training to really get a feel of things before they literally straight washing most of S.I.N and H.E.R.O's forces off the planet
 

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I just realized that the twins are going to dominate the ocean back on earth when we go back cause who fuck can stop or contain the ocean they can already summon it from nothing but can turn into it and teleport through it. our 4th evolution has to be half or stronger than that with hat massive advantage since they just need time and training to really get a feel of things before they literally straight washing most of S.I.N and H.E.R.O's forces off the planet
They got the one body nerf for a reason. Amber was pimpslapping tons of S.I.N agents as a newborn
 
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They got the one body nerf for a reason. Amber was pimpslapping tons of S.I.N agents as a newborn
It makes me think that the "endgame powerup" for the twins is just going to be them both using their powers at the same time, either by them finally being able to split or just both awake and sharing control. Apply both their abilities to the same body of water and they could make some seriously deadly effects. Everyone else is going to have to push beyond the normal limits of superhuman strength to stay relevant in the final battles, while Liz and Amber are just going to use the power of sisterhood.
 

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They got the one body nerf for a reason. Amber was pimpslapping tons of S.I.N agents as a newborn
I think that was because she had the power of 2 superhumans in one, so it makes sense for 1 powerful level 1 to beat other new level 1s, specially since she was getting more and more power. Assuming the SIN agents were level 1s, which is what it looked like
 
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1. The twins are that shithead doctor's speciality research. He said multiple times that he discovered that twin superhumans are a lot stronger, baseline, than the normal superhuman.
2. The fucker also literally fused them together, Frankenstein-style. Surely that fucked with the baseline as well.
3. Amber was freaking the fuck out. She was completely raging out, not at all planifying attacks or managing her strength (as in, her energy). She was going all out constantly, fueled by pure adrenaline. Adrenaline can make people do crazy shit (like those stories about people who managed to, singlehandedly, flip a car or rip out a door to save their kid trapped inside after a car crash).
4. Those SIN agents are simple goons. Of course they'll get wiped by a plot character. Lmao.
 

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Surprisingly, I don't think Liz would actually be unstoppable on Earth, just incredibly dangerous. Amber is a whole other story, and would make a good power match-up absolutely necessary to even stand a chance.

Liz appears to be a glass cannon. She doesn't seem particularly durable, hasn't really displayed any superior physical strength, and notably can't regenerate on her own. However, she can instantly drag someone out of the fight and set up Amber to go to town without having to generate her own water for usage. It seems utterly broken, like a more balanced version of Nico's powers. But her teleportation does actually does have a decent handicap to it. She has to get up close and personal to use it, which is risky when you can't heal on your own, and it actually has travel time over long distances if she or a passenger is the thing being teleported. Her tactics in the Monster World were high risk and high reward thanks to the unique and deadly water there, but on earth that trick is very much punishable if you know it's coming.

Amber would actually be without a doubt the most dangerous twin on earth. Her ability to manipulate and generate water makes fighting her a near guaranteed death sentence if she traps you in a sphere of water, her ability to absorb MP makes her borderline inexhaustible, and to top it all off she has MC-level regeneration. I'd go as far as to say it's actually better than the MC's was at that Level, because headshots don't seem to affect her ability to fight at all. She's only barely saved from being a complete story breaker by having a slow absorption rate for MP. Due to it she can't actually stop energy-based attacks, and using her water form drains her MP faster than she can replenish it. If a superhuman isn't at least Level 2 and have some good powers based on some type of supernatural or natural type of energy, they've already lost.
 

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Surprisingly, I don't think Liz would actually be unstoppable on Earth, just incredibly dangerous. Amber is a whole other story, and would make a good power match-up absolutely necessary to even stand a chance.

Liz appears to be a glass cannon. She doesn't seem particularly durable, hasn't really displayed any superior physical strength, and notably can't regenerate on her own. However, she can instantly drag someone out of the fight and set up Amber to go to town without having to generate her own water for usage. It seems utterly broken, like a more balanced version of Nico's powers. But her teleportation does actually does have a decent handicap to it. She has to get up close and personal to use it, which is risky when you can't heal on your own, and it actually has travel time over long distances if she or a passenger is the thing being teleported. Her tactics in the Monster World were high risk and high reward thanks to the unique and deadly water there, but on earth that trick is very much punishable if you know it's coming.

Amber would actually be without a doubt the most dangerous twin on earth. Her ability to manipulate and generate water makes fighting her a near guaranteed death sentence if she traps you in a sphere of water, her ability to absorb MP makes her borderline inexhaustible, and to top it all off she has MC-level regeneration. I'd go as far as to say it's actually better than the MC's was at that Level, because headshots don't seem to affect her ability to fight at all. She's only barely saved from being a complete story breaker by having a slow absorption rate for MP. Due to it she can't actually stop energy-based attacks, and using her water form drains her MP faster than she can replenish it. If a superhuman isn't at least Level 2 and have some good powers based on some type of supernatural or natural type of energy, they've already lost.
Makes me wonder what the Devanna + Evander vs Liz + Amber fight will look like.
 
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txe320

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Makes me wonder what the Devanna + Evander vs Liz + Amber fight will look like.
Pretty sure it wouldn't happen like that cause technically; it would be 2 vs 1. But again, if they evolve, who know if they can use their powers more quickly and with more efficiency?

But one thing for sure, it would be really interesting to see who it would evolve.

I'm really hype for what's next!
 
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Makes me wonder what the Devanna + Evander vs Liz + Amber fight will look like.
I imagine it would be kind of slapstick. Amber and Liz might not be strong enough to defeat Devanna and Evander, but their powers do make them very well-suited for stalemating them. Amber's liquification would let her flow out of Devanna's conjured traps, and her energy draining would just turn the summoned monsters into snack packs. And Liz's ability to teleport in water jets would let her knock Evander around the whole fight, since he still gets momentum transferred and she can produce a huge amount of water. I can see their first encounter being an incredibly frustrating experience for the Moon twins, since while they're not losing they're also not actually managing to get anything done.
 

JicioJ

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I imagine it would be kind of slapstick. Amber and Liz might not be strong enough to defeat Devanna and Evander, but their powers do make them very well-suited for stalemating them. Amber's liquification would let her flow out of Devanna's conjured traps, and her energy draining would just turn the summoned monsters into snack packs. And Liz's ability to teleport in water jets would let her knock Evander around the whole fight, since he still gets momentum transferred and she can produce a huge amount of water. I can see their first encounter being an incredibly frustrating experience for the Moon twins, since while they're not losing they're also not actually managing to get anything done.
Honestly, I'd rather see Deryl vs Devana, to highlight the theme of a pure spawn vs an off-shoot. MC or Michael could be fighting against Evander, I think it'd interesting to see if Michael can absorb destruction.
 
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Honestly, I'd rather see Deryl vs Devana, to highlight the theme of a pure spawn vs an off-shoot. MC or Michael could be fighting against Evander, I think it'd interesting to see if Michael can absorb destruction.
I also want to see Deryl vs Devana again (ideally full rematch moon twins vs MC+Deryl, but would be cool to see how Michael's powers would interact with Evander's fucky forcefield too) either way Deryl has to make up for the generational stinker he had in that first meeting with those two before the end of the game or he'll forever be the one on MC's team that sold hardest.
 

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I also want to see Deryl vs Devana again (ideally full rematch moon twins vs MC+Deryl, but would be cool to see how Michael's powers would interact with Evander's fucky forcefield too) either way Deryl has to make up for the generational stinker he had in that first meeting with those two before the end of the game or he'll forever be the one on MC's team that sold hardest.
My money's on Michael winning due to him just absorbing the kinetic energy feedback, and that would make him outlast Evander. Plus, there's also the ideology part; Power outranks Destruction on the totem pole.
 

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I've been wondering this for a while, but does WW use 3d models or software in his art? I ask because I could swear I can see the jaggedness of 3d models if you look closely enough, but I've also seen that he draws a lot of his art, so I've never been fully certain.
 

INquiop

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Do guys think it's possible to see that crystal girl again even if we failed to save her at that power scaling moment. i could do it right and did not want to start over for the fourth time since i feel like with deryl help in future and finding her soul somewhere in the multiple worlds we can realm shift to it might be a possibility since she was my only regret, not jake though since i feel like that kill was necessary for growth
 
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Do guys think it's possible to see that crystal girl again even if we failed to save her at that power scaling moment. i could do it right and did not want to start over for the fourth time since i feel like with deryl help in future and finding her soul somewhere in the multiple worlds we can realm shift to it might be a possibility since she was my only regret, not jake though since i feel like that kill was necessary for growth
I wouldn't put too much faith in the possibility of that happening because there is already a way to save her.
 

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My money's on Michael winning due to him just absorbing the kinetic energy feedback, and that would make him outlast Evander. Plus, there's also the ideology part; Power outranks Destruction on the totem pole.
Evander's power doesn't kill people with kinetic energy, he just erases you(though if you have energy type power like Met you could resist it to some extent). Also Power doesn't "outrank" Destruction, the numbers don't indicate the strength and is not how all this works.
 

JicioJ

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Evander's power doesn't kill people with kinetic energy, he just erases you(though if you have energy type power like Met you could resist it to some extent). Also Power doesn't "outrank" Destruction, the numbers don't indicate the strength and is not how all this works.
I agree that they don't represent strength, but they do seem to indicate seniority, since the first says something like "this is the power of the firstborn" while whispering to Jake. Also, I do think that Destruction is a type of energy, not kinetic though.
 
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Pfft, I want the MC vs Devana hatefuck scene she was mad after our guy penetrated her in such way.
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She also gets mad as hell if you ask her why her tits are small when you're infiltrating as Nathan, and again if you ask her if she has a boyfriend, lmao those options were funny as hell.
 
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