VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.999] [WeirdWorld]

[RudeFist]

I have to hand it to Weirdworldz for his use of the royalty free music even if its not made from his creative input. Aside from generally good track choice, I really like the toneshift as time goes on. The first half of the story has a roughly playful feel to it, while the latter half feels a lot more forlorn. It matches the plot quite well.

 

[Dipasimaan]

liz is a wet cardboard box in personality.

 

[Angelcrush]

liz is a wet cardboard box in personality.

The NTR curse.

yeah I wouldn't know, because I'm on the NTR path and for some reason, she is now completely of the table as a LI. A sad choice, because I like liked her. I can only immagine that the other path gave her much more characterisation and cute dialog scenes with MC.
On that note, I found Lucy's scene were she made you watch your "gf" Liz really hot. I wish WW would have done just a few more scenes like that, before the revenge plot.
If he doesn't plan on continueing that plot line, I can only hope we can someday be with Liz again, even after essentially being her cuck once.

 

[Obliviousdemonchild666]

They didn't evolve. They're still Level 1s, they just share an MP pool and have powers that let them punch above their weight class. Functionally, due to both training and being fused together - therefore always being within proximity to share their MP through their twin connection - the twins are probably around Level 2. Liz's access to instantly lethal areas of teleportation and Amber's busted regen and MP absorption just make them seem far stronger than they actually are. They don't have the strength of a Level 3 though, not in terms of physicality nor in the damage their abilities inflict.

now I'm questioning what level they are but yeah i remember that the twin thing was basically a plot device to keep them from falling to far behind the far more experienced MC Michael Alice and Deryl.

 

[Obliviousdemonchild666]

yeah I wouldn't know, because I'm on the NTR path and for some reason, she is now completely of the table as a LI. A sad choice, because I like liked her. I can only immagine that the other path gave her much more characterisation and cute dialog scenes with MC.
On that note, I found Lucy's scene were she made you watch your "gf" Liz really hot. I wish WW would have done just a few more scenes like that, before the revenge plot.
If he doesn't plan on continueing that plot line, I can only hope we can someday be with Liz again, even after essentially being her cuck once.

wait i'm confused, you thought picking NTR would be the same as the love path but you'd be a cuck with her? are you saying you played the game for the first time and when you could choose you chose the NTR path over the romance path and are shocked that she doesn't love you?

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Can Liz still hax enemies to the Great Ocean, or is that just a monster world only feature? Maybe a later evo Liz can teleport all the way there, but I don't think she'll have access to that kind of instant win button outside of the monster world.

 

[kibaris]

My guess is that the Eye fusing with the MC functions similarly to forced evolution from the serum. The level 5s who evolved from the serum are implied to be weaker than the natural level 5s because they didn't cultivate as strong a foundation of power for the evolution to build upon. Having the Eye push the MC's body straight to level 5 from level 2 or 3 would result in an even weaker product, because the foundation would be far lesser. Also, the Eye's own strength is dependent on it reuniting its fragments, and it relies on the MC's power for that. So the weaker the MC is when it fuses with him, the more unsteady the foundation and the less power it has to augment it with. I'd expect, then, that a level 5 MC would be stronger than the Eye fusions we've seen, but that an Eye fusion built from a level 5 MC would be the godlike being the Eye is supposed to be.

In fact, natural evolution isnt better, someone able to evolve naturaly is just better than another who cant, and if that someone who can evolve naturaly were to use the serum there would be only benefit from it, it was explained by Weirdworld.
The natural one take a tole on the superhuman body and is far more risky.

As for the eye during is fusion with mc, a very clear indicator of his true power is how Bernhardt react to him and take him very seriously unlike Eisheth, who's a chosen and more powerfull than most level 5 ( And he had already met Eisheth and seen her full power at that time)

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Can Liz still hax enemies to the Great Ocean, or is that just a monster world only feature? Maybe a later evo Liz can teleport all the way there, but I don't think she'll have access to that kind of instant win button outside of the monster world.

obviously not (at least for now), even Nico cant go that far and she level 5

amber and liz are level 3 as they evolved when they woke up with their powers and it's stated that twins only evolve twice because they jump from 1 to 3 to 5 so its less they need to catch up and more they need actual skill and experience to hasten their evolution as well as see if they can fix or help the situation with their body.

Amber and Liz arent level 3, they are two superhuman in one ( even if Amber is a special case)
When they woke up they were level 1, then they became a chimera thanks to Tanos so they share their pool of power in one body.

To compare , Devana and Evander who are twin became superhuman (level 1) then Tanos prepared them through some training and then he induced an evolution artificialy in both of them at the same time to reach level 3.

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[shujuku]

Can Liz still hax enemies to the Great Ocean, or is that just a monster world only feature? Maybe a later evo Liz can teleport all the way there, but I don't think she'll have access to that kind of instant win button outside of the monster world.

I think tis obvious to us now that Liz and Amber are two different superhumans. Liz who can tp people in water has Undine as her monster daddy while Amber has the strength eater as hers. Fits well into why their powers are close but not the same as their monster parents are related and near each other.

 

[KKStrider]

I think tis obvious to us now that Liz and Amber are two different superhumans. Liz who can tp people in water has Undine as her monster daddy while Amber has the strength eater as hers. Fits well into why their powers are close but not the same as their monster parents are related and near each other.

I'd guess the opposite. Amber has all the Undine traits, whilst Liz solely has Strength Eater traits.

Speaking of Undines, thinking about Dinoflaggelate and kibaris' back and forth, I have a theory of my own. I'm beginning to suspect that Undines are actually somehow fragments of the great Ocean. The way the monster report keeps talking about "reunification" and how they're "cut off from their greater body" makes me think that they don't live in the great Ocean, but they are the great Ocean, and that it's actually an intergalactic genius loci that assimilates living organisms into it. The Undines might hate Minyaks because they're akin to a foreign hivemind with undesirable traits to them. Minyaks are asocial, have immiscible oil as their power and their permanent fusion cripples their lifespan; Undines are social, manipulate water and live forever unless killed.

As to how Amber relates to Undines, I truly don't know. I have a couple ideas. of possible reasons for it. More mundanely, Tanos' drugs might have massively messed with the twins' development. Alice has shown monster-based medicines can affect superhuman development.

Alternatively, the light that appeared to Amber could be what caused her ascension, not the actual Strength Eaters. The MC himself can suggest that something else turned Amber rather than a Strength Eater. Liz died before Amber did, and we've seen with Michael's encounter with Power that there's a sort of override that the upper echelons of monsters have. All that exposure to Leigong powers and material, and yet he's nothing like Met. What that light was is up in the air, but considering the parallels between Amber and Michael, it might be some sort of avatar for the great Ocean itself. Adding to this is the in-universe description of Strength Eaters as emissaries from the MC extracting memories.

Operating off the assumption my theory about Undines is correct, it'd explain Amber's inability to touch the tainted water in the Monster World, her ability to absorb MP and the memories that neither twins should have within them. For the first, a superhuman's powers protect them foremost, so avoiding assimilation is definitely something her water manipulation would instinctively activate to avoid. For the second, Tanos implies that the ability to absorb MP isn't an intrinsic part of Strength Eaters' powers, but the water-based teleportation is. So perhaps strength eating is a boon given to the M52s by the Ocean itself for their worship and emissary work, akin to Ella's eyes or the MC's increased sapience in his liquid state. If she was directly infected by the Ocean's avatar, it might give Amber the ability by default. And for the third, the memories the MC was seeing might be from Amber's connection to the Ocean itself, being a sapient, individualistic fragment of it like the Undines. Though none of this would explain why Undines possess core traits.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Not going to even lie. I thought WW was just being funny when he wrote that the Undines didn't like the Minyaks. You know, because Oil and Water don't mix well together.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

I'd guess the opposite. Amber has all the Undine traits, whilst Liz solely has Strength Eater traits.

Speaking of Undines, thinking about Dinoflaggelate and kibaris' back and forth, I have a theory of my own. I'm beginning to suspect that Undines are actually somehow fragments of the great Ocean. The way the monster report keeps talking about "reunification" and how they're "cut off from their greater body" makes me think that they don't live in the great Ocean, but they are the great Ocean, and that it's actually an intergalactic genius loci that assimilates living organisms into it. The Undines might hate Minyaks because they're akin to a foreign hivemind with undesirable traits to them. Minyaks are asocial, have immiscible oil as their power and their permanent fusion cripples their lifespan; Undines are social, manipulate water and live forever unless killed.

As to how Amber relates to Undines, I truly don't know. I have a couple ideas. of possible reasons for it. More mundanely, Tanos' drugs might have massively messed with the twins' development. Alice has shown monster-based medicines can affect superhuman development.

Alternatively, the light that appeared to Amber could be what caused her ascension, not the actual Strength Eaters. The MC himself can suggest that something else turned Amber rather than a Strength Eater. Liz died before Amber did, and we've seen with Michael's encounter with Power that there's a sort of override that the upper echelons of monsters have. All that exposure to Leigong powers and material, and yet he's nothing like Met. What that light was is up in the air, but considering the parallels between Amber and Michael, it might be some sort of avatar for the great Ocean itself. Adding to this is the in-universe description of Strength Eaters as emissaries from the MC extracting memories.

Operating off the assumption my theory about Undines is correct, it'd explain Amber's inability to touch the tainted water in the Monster World, her ability to absorb MP and the memories that neither twins should have within them. For the first, a superhuman's powers protect them foremost, so avoiding assimilation is definitely something her water manipulation would instinctively activate to avoid. For the second, Tanos implies that the ability to absorb MP isn't an intrinsic part of Strength Eaters' powers, but the water-based teleportation is. So perhaps strength eating is a boon given to the M52s by the Ocean itself for their worship and emissary work, akin to Ella's eyes or the MC's increased sapience in his liquid state. If she was directly infected by the Ocean's avatar, it might give Amber the ability by default. And for the third, the memories the MC was seeing might be from Amber's connection to the Ocean itself, being a sapient, individualistic fragment of it like the Undines. Though none of this would explain why Undines possess core traits.

Ella specifically points out Amber as someone who might not have the core trait.

 

[Angelcrush]

wait i'm confused, you thought picking NTR would be the same as the love path but you'd be a cuck with her? are you saying you played the game for the first time and when you could choose you chose the NTR path over the romance path and are shocked that she doesn't love you?

Nothing confusing about it, what I'm saying is that I'm sad the NTR path seems to be a dead end. At least for now ?
There are no conversations about it with her, or anything in place of it, like an equiquelant to the scenes on the romance path. They are unequally developed, is what I'm trying to say.