OnlineRando

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"People don't fall up so it's similar to our world so it's realistic" is a bad argument.
At the very least, light and lightspeed, as well as the first law of thermodynamics, all seem to work the same up until level 4, which... says a lot honestly, but whatever.

If WW thinks that's how information works, or just wants it to work like that in-universe for whatever reason, there's nothing I can say about that. But that doesn't stop me from saying that memory hacking into the universe's matrix code or whatever isn't a good argument from the start. There isn't anything supporting it yet, either.
 
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It is a virus that the application wanted permission from the CMD and would not allow me to remove it. it wanted permission every 2 seconds, I had to format my PC and change the passwords on all my accounts. I'm sure it's a virus, since it's not even from Renpy let's report the account to prevent this rat from stealing from other people let's report it. I do not leave a direct link to prevent you from leaving without reading and downloading a virus.
 
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I thought about that, but that's just not how that works realistically.

Firstly, I'll start by saying that body affecting matter makes basically perfect sense. Body, as in body of matter. Form, if you will.

Secondly, as I said above, that isn't how information works. I think I've heard of a bunch of theories and frameworks that propose that information, and the interaction between information, is the underlying... thing, in reality (I think they were called bits), but there just isn't proof that this is the case. Information, as currently understood, is distinct from the actual state of matter.

Information, at the most basic level, is just the way something perceives that change is happening. For example, someone feeling hot is the brain processing information through the body's senses, and said brain decides to respond in a certain way.

Certain things can change their physical state according to information (the body/brain for example), but unlike matter, information isn't constant or objective, it's subjectively interpreted. Let's use heat as an example; A human doesn't process or perceive the information their senses give them about how hot it is like a thermostat does. It decides itself whether or not it should tweak its operations according to how hot it is, while the thermostat assigns the heat an arbitrary number. The thermostat can even be wrong, from a human perspective, but according to its design, the number displayed is always right.

That leads me to me saying that, no matter how either the brain or the thermostat perceives the heat, or even if they don't, the fact remains that it's still there. Regardless of the number displayed on the thermostat, if it's objectively hot enough, the thermostat will melt, or freeze if its cold. Regardless of how hot my body is feeling, if I'm standing in a lake of lava I will evaporate.

So basically, information is just a subjectively interpreted reflection of the physical. There is no 1's and 0's of reality to hack, at least in terms of information, since the information we're talking about isn't even strictly "real", in the sense that it just reflects the so called body, being the physical.
The Akashic Records are a thing in the game. You know, that plane of reality composed of all knowledge of what has, is and will happen? The Egrigore form Syla was gifted was directly taken from the Records. Which gives wind to the idea that high-level memory powers are more akin to quantum manipulation. Making the universe and reality itself "remember" or "forget" things by fucking with the Information Dimension.

For example: Lets say I erase the universal memory of my favourite coffee cup from the Records. No person alive remembers the cups existance anymore. The machines that built it do not carry memory of the cups construction. The raw materials the cup used to be do not remember being assembled into the cup. No record or proof of the cup having been real exist anymore, so was it ever real? The universe is now forced adjust objective reality, making the cup actually never real.

That is what high-level Memory powers look like to me- Imposing a 'Tree falling alone in the woods' scenario onto the universe, forcing reality to be defined by your own subjective memory of it alone. We see a version of it in the Syla Vs Indra fight, with Syla making his attacks disappear by making reality "forget" them (granted, that might only be possible due to dream realm fuckery).
 

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The Akashic Records are a thing in the game. You know, that plane of reality composed of all knowledge of what has, is and will happen? The Egrigore form Syla was gifted was directly taken from the Records. Which gives wind to the idea that high-level memory powers are more akin to quantum manipulation. Making the universe and reality itself "remember" or "forget" things by fucking with the Information Dimension.

For example: Lets say I erase the universal memory of my favourite coffee cup from the Records. No person alive remembers the cups existance anymore. The machines that built it do not carry memory of the cups construction. The raw materials the cup used to be do not remember being assembled into the cup. No record or proof of the cup having been real exist anymore, so was it ever real? The universe is now forced adjust objective reality, making the cup actually never real.

That is what high-level Memory powers look like to me- Imposing a 'Tree falling alone in the woods' scenario onto the universe, forcing reality to be defined by your own subjective memory of it alone. We see a version of it in the Syla Vs Indra fight, with Syla making his attacks disappear by making reality "forget" them (granted, that might only be possible due to dream realm fuckery).
This is almost certainly not gonna happen... but now I want the climax to MC's inevitable fight with Indra to be MC tapping into the Akashic Records and just erasing Indra from the Records. Balefire his ass.
 

Sir. Cockalot

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i already did it bro it is a patch and it is not from renpy the application tried to get several permissions from my pc several times it gave me permission every 2 seconds and would not let me delete it i had to format my pc and change the passwords of my accounts. i ran that danger for you my brothers. in case it is not clear if it is a virus . this guy is sending his virus everywhere.
why would you download a obvious virus? like why?
 

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i already did it bro it is a patch and it is not from renpy the application tried to get several permissions from my pc several times it gave me permission every 2 seconds and would not let me delete it i had to format my pc and change the passwords of my accounts. i ran that danger for you my brothers. in case it is not clear if it is a virus . this guy is sending his virus everywhere.
Should have used a virtual machine mannnnn.
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This is almost certainly not gonna happen... but now I want the climax to MC's inevitable fight with Indra to be MC tapping into the Akashic Records and just erasing Indra from the Records. Balefire his ass.
Imagining just how much ridiculous raw Power a Monster/Spawn of the second must have at the upper levels, and having already a precedent of Indra enduring a sort of erasure with a "Yeah bro, Faith and Gut" card, In the scenario of MC using such technique I can see Indra answering with this: Kugo-mem.jpeg
 

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Imagining just how much ridiculous raw Power a Monster/Spawn of the second must have at the upper levels, and having already a precedent of Indra enduring a sort of erasure with a "Yeah bro, Faith and Gut" card, In the scenario of MC using such technique I can see Indra answering with this: View attachment 4973096
Raw power? Just throw in more tentacles and let them regenerate endlessly and instantly.
 

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Most likely harem, but Weird said he could add some endings, endings and non-routes, romance, maybe he'll take the five favorites and make an ending with them, who knows, in the end it's win or win
God I hope Weird makes a specific ending for each major love interests. I know it's time consuming and he would have to differentiate them even further into variables depending on player choices. But I think it's worth it, I've played so many Visual Novels where the writers washed down the personalities of heroines just to please the Harem crowd.
Harem route means less individuality, this unfortunately is a very common, hard to avoid trend, fuck harems.
 

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Since Deryl started messing with it, I have an inkling that it may become a later plot point. However thinking about it in a broader sense, WW has introduced so many monster-related technological concepts through the memory flashbacks to sea/sky humans, that the serum looks like nothing and frankly I don't think that that reaching level 5 is anywhere close to the end game.

The vestige had intimate knowledge of ascension concepts, things that not even the level 5s of current humanity are aware of, and their progress had been ultra slow, depending on Henri who lacked the fine control to explore them. This is an indication that the althumans in general had achieved level 5 on a great scale.


If Henri had the Lie trait, he would probably had a much easier time navigating the dreamworld, which is sustained by Lie. He seems like he has the Truth trait based on how his power manifests, but I just can't observe the Lie in any shape or form.
I disagree with this, the Althumans were certainly more advanced at large in a ton of aspects, both in 'base' technology(Aquatic and Flying Cities) and on Monster-related Tech, with things like the Gun MC and Michael found, still, I think the perfect serum of Xanthe is something special, as he himself seem like an oddity on intellect/creativity or whatever allowed the creation of the Evolution Serum, why I think this?, for two reasons mainly, the Sky People had just some wack-ass liquid that allow partial transformation on Monsters, the wakeblood, something that Xanthe created(and gifted to Klaus) but regarded as a failure, and point two, Aos was an elite Soldier as a Spawn, and upon becoming a Monster, he killed a bunch of Higher-ups, the issue is that Aos himself at that moment was *just* an A-Rank monster, Trio of HERO aside, the Captains or lieutenants would genuinely stomp any A-Class, so I don't really think the Final Evolution was something common on that iteration of Humanity, or even in general, as Being Completed(level 5) seem to be regarded by Monsters as something unique, even the Eye mention it as something notable when seeing the fight between Nico and Ella during the BoD DeadEnd.

As Henri being Paradox or not, there is nothing official yet, he can be whatever Deity, but I think Paradox is by far the most likely, him having troubles exploring the Dreamworld would have less to do with the nature of his powers, and more with Henri himself being far too mentally unstable and not embracing nor having control of his powers, is something mentioned on the game, both by Lisa and seen in how Xanthe/Dexter pretty much had Henri in quarantine during who knows how many decades.
 
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