VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Bear1]

Jesus Christ she's not a fucking GOD, she might not even have one of the Numbered's abilities given how "new" she is compared to the older members and how long the other Numbered have been dead. So she has to have SOME limit.

My GUESS is that as we know; by lvl 4 to 5 you don't really need anything OTHER THAN your energy to live essentially. But the catch is everytime you use that said energy you lose it, and once you spend it all, you die.

Most of the power expendage seem to stand by 2 variables:
1. Using your powers too many times I'm a short period of time, fast or otherwise.
2. Using it bigger than your capabilities. (i.e us making 1 million tentacles or growing to the size of mount everest).

So what is her limit? Distance? Is that it? Cause she seems to be able to teleport like it's her third leg the same way we can shape shift into different people for shits and giggles.

What are y'alls thoughts?
P.S wasn't trying to be mean with the caps just using it as an emphasis.

I never said she was a god, I just said we don't know what the upper bound to her powers is, which means its possible that her powers don't involve "distance" as a limiting factor, or maybe they do but its an obscene number that exceeds the length of the solar system. For the sake of plot convenience and balancing? Yeah it makes sense to say that she has a limit because otherwise, as I said, she could potentially just lob you into the center of the sun or a black hole. And even if a sufficiently powerful superhuman could survive being sent to the center of the sun or even a black hole, that doesnt mean they could also make their way back. Our MC for example, when he got teleported to space, had zero methods of making it back. Even if he did have some method of propelling himself in space, he would be bound by the issue of distance. Getting back from low earth orbit might not take that long, maybe some hours or days, but if he got teleported to the moon? or to the sun? Remember that the apollo spacecraft took days to get to the moon and they were travelling at tens of km/s. If she can teleport you sufficiently far, most characters simply wont have any means of getting back to earth in any reasonable time frame even if they could somehow survive the trip and had a means of locomotion.

Just this fact alone makes her powers potentially extremely overpowered, even more so than any character shown so far. Even if she can't outright win in a fight, if she can just teleport her enemy far enough away it becomes a non-issue.

Also regarding the matter of distance, teleportation obviously doesnt obey classic physics, and also has the potential to violate causality (information traveling faster than light). This means that distance might not matter because distance is only something we measure in our local 3 dimensional causal reality. If her powers operate on the basis of higher dimensional physics, going from earth to the sun might just be the same as going from her house to the local grocery store, you know what I mean?

 

[lavilao]

True, on the same level teleportation would be a troublesome power to deal with but there are still workarounds, Jake for example trumps her, he could probably order her and plant mental triggers to the point where she couldn't fight him anymore, and at level 5 you don't need to eat, sleep or breathe anymore, and as far as we know don't age, and powers have no limit, like some real eldritch shit that don't obey the laws of the universe anymore, so at level 5 I don't think being flung into space or the Sun would be fatal anymore, just troublesome to get back from but we saw other levels 5 and they do the *teleports behind you nothing personal kid* edgy shit pretty much for fun, like she teleports people around just to show off, so eh, teleportation is cool but she is by no means invincible.
Another way to get through it is sheer speed, I imagine not all level 5s are comparable, as levels 3s are not either, they probably vary in strength tremendously, and as such you can beat her in reaction speed, if you can damage say her perception before she could react she could only reliably teleport herself away, get her before she gets you and you got a good chance, say the protagonist at level 5 turns into a tardigrade and lands on her, absorbs her memories and possibly her powers that's gg.
Could do a similar process and just start damaging her from the inside, making her mutate
Get inside her and Ant man inside Thanos' ass her, she couldn't counter that if she doesn't know you are around.
Plenty of counters for teleportation, it's a good power but not top tier in combat compared to say Vector Manipulation, Mind Control, Time Powers ala Kamen Rider Zi-O and a thousand others that I'm too lazy to list here

agreed, top powers are vector manipulation, matter creation, electro-magnetic control, mind control, shonen prota powers (the louded the cry the more power it gets) and finally the power to negate other powers. While teleportation is usefull there are ways to counter it.

 

[necromater]

Nico power may not be teleportation but more like wormhole creation that explain her powers in a better way and make them a tad more dangerous. XD

 

[Ebrietas]

If we are talking about top powers then for me, it's weirdness manipulation, I mean the amount of crazy shit Bill Cipher did it with was amazing. . . Now I am actually wondering if there can be superhuman with this power?

 

[necromater]

Give it

If we are talking about top powers then for me, it's weirdness manipulation, I mean the amount of crazy shit Bill Cipher did it with was amazing. . . Now I am actually wondering if there can be superhuman with this power?

Ella was close when she hit lvl 5 she warped space around her, so maybe the MC can do it not at Bill lvl .but at high Eldrich lvl.

 

[RogueEagle]

Ya but how does that scale with another lvl 5 is my question. Xanthe says that the more lvl 5s we have, the more we can keep each other in check. And while that is true on the surface level. I find a lot hard to beat the usefulness of teleportation. While she may by no means be able to KILL another lvl 5, if you don't have a power say like Klaus's; you're kinda fucked if she flings you into space.

My point being, there has got to be some limit or even weakness (like ours to electricity) that can level her down to being beatable by other lvl 5s.

We already saw someone who can easily defeat Nico, Bernhard can literally move at humongous speed that Nico can't track to use her teleportation, the MC can move at some pretty impressive speeds for his current level and can probably defeat her if he evolves and also we have the fire dude that can literally become fire and avoid her power completely, Nico is pretty beatable right now, she when pinned against other level 5's is pretty much screwed, specially sups the can create objects or elements to obstruct her view.

She is far from unbeatable but is also a dangerous enemy to have.

 

[RogueEagle]

agreed, top powers are vector manipulation, matter creation, electro-magnetic control, mind control, shonen prota powers (the louded the cry the more power it gets) and finally the power to negate other powers. While teleportation is usefull there are ways to counter it.

I don't think they would add powers that are anime god memes like Vector Manipulation and Shonen prota powers, those are literally powers they would give a MC in animes or games for plot armor...
Power to negate other powers in 99% of cases have a distance to function, so they wouldn't be ideal to have inside the HERO facility(for obvious reason), so i don't see that in a list of top powers...

I would add True-self Project, Self-trancendence and the most OP, Power Absorption...

 

[RogueEagle]

Give it
Ella was close when she hit lvl 5 she warped space around her, so maybe the MC can do it not at Bill lvl .but at high Eldrich lvl.

I think that was a visual representation of Ella's power pressure or more preciselly Ella's matter manipulation escaping her control and changing the enviroment around her with the main source being her feet(her point of contact that that moment), so i don't think she has actual weirdness manipulation powers since those you don't really need to touch anything to make it happen, it just does.

 

[necromater]

I think that was a visual representation of Ella's power pressure or more preciselly Ella's matter manipulation escaping her control and changing the enviroment around her with the main source being her feet(her point of contact that that moment), so i don't think she has actual weirdness manipulation powers since those you don't really need to touch anything to make it happen, it just does.

She Turned a body into a pebble , minyaks into ration pills give her time. she is weird as fuck she can find a way Lol.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

You know. When it comes to the Numbered, I imagine a hypothetical meeting between the 4 "active" ones going something like this.

The 1st: WTF, 4th, my spawn lost to yours! I was so close to ruling the world!

The 2nd: My spawn killed a lightning monster and gave it to me as a gift. That is all...(in Guru's voice from DB Abridged for some reason ).

The 3rd: My spawn is a crazy bitch. She won't even answer my calls anymore.

The 4th: .... My spawn wants to impregnate me....

1st, 2nd, and 3rd: .......

Anyway, I'm late but happy new years to everyone. Tried to cutback on porn games. We'll see how long I'll commit to it.

 

[bebroeater]

You know. When it comes to the Numbered, I imagine a hypothetical meeting between the 4 "active" ones going something like this.

The 1st: WTF, 4th, my spawn lost to yours! I was so close to ruling the world!

The 2nd: My spawn killed a lightning monster and gave it to me as a gift. That is all...(in Guru's voice from DB Abridged for some reason ).

The 3rd: My spawn is a crazy bitch. She won't even answer my calls anymore.

The 4th: .... My spawn wants to impregnate me....

1st, 2nd, and 3rd: .......

Anyway, I'm late but happy new years to everyone. Tried to cutback on porn games. We'll see how long I'll commit to it.

Happy new years! The 2nd seems like the most efficient to me so far, it just popped in with the grandiose entrance, evaporated the corpse of the lightning monster, shot 1 radiation beam then left. I am kinda curious on how Jake was infected too, I don't think we know anything/much of that, and I think comparing it to the way we and Michael got infected could be interesting.
On that topic of infection, I remember Ella saying that the monster that made us can't change other things, but during the scene with the 4th, it made these strange syringies thingies, and stabbed them into our balls, making our dick like 3 times bigger. I might be overthinking this by a long shot, but I do find that a bit curious. A simple explanation of that would be that the 4th didn't really change our body, instead creating some sort of liquid that enlarges penises. (how would it know how to do that though )
I'm probably overthinking this shit too much though

 

[RogueEagle]

Happy new years! The 2nd seems like the most efficient to me so far, it just popped in with the grandiose entrance, evaporated the corpse of the lightning monster, shot 1 radiation beam then left. I am kinda curious on how Jake was infected too, I don't think we know anything/much of that, and I think comparing it to the way we and Michael got infected could be interesting.
On that topic of infection, I remember Ella saying that the monster that made us can't change other things, but during the scene with the 4th, it made these strange syringies thingies, and stabbed them into our balls, making our dick like 3 times bigger. I might be overthinking this by a long shot, but I do find that a bit curious. A simple explanation of that would be that the 4th didn't really change our body, instead creating some sort of liquid that enlarges penises. (how would it know how to do that though )
I'm probably overthinking this shit too much though

The 4th didn't really enlarge hour penis, at the moment it used its syringe it gave us our power, that means that the MC himself changed it in the spur and heat of the moment, just like his legs melted when he tried to escape but was shaking in fear so his legs literally liquified, its more of a perfect timing than a possibility that the 4th can change others.

 

[lavilao]

I don't think they would add powers that are anime god memes like Vector Manipulation and Shonen prota powers, those are literally powers they would give a MC in animes or games for plot armor...
Power to negate other powers in 99% of cases have a distance to function, so they wouldn't be ideal to have inside the HERO facility(for obvious reason), so i don't see that in a list of top powers...

I would add True-self Project, Self-trancendence and the most OP, Power Absorption...

Neither Accelerator(vector) nor the number 7(hero/guts power) are protas thou... Also there was already a monster with powers to negate abilities, the walls of HERO are made of it.

 

[Ginko357]

Neither Accelerator(vector) nor the number 7(hero/guts power) are protas thou... Also there was already a monster with powers to negate abilities, the walls of HERO are made of it.

And protag is probably working towards copying powers from others Valrvn said something about him beying the "memory" power or somethin, can't remember the exact phrasing and he talks weird, so, this is just my tinfoil hat theory but get this, the protagonist was attacked by two monsters, he got 2 abilities, reading the memory of others and transmutation, of his own body initially but extended to others recently, Ella has the second one, but I don't think she has the first one, when you show up to train with her WAY BACK when you have the chance to show her the poison tendrils, if you do, she sais "Oh, then you are ready" and kills you or some shit, you get a dead end, I don't think she has that ability to read the memory and more specifically the genetic memory of things, that's why we don't see her turn into animals and such too much, I believe she had to learn the intricacies of what she turns into, and the protagonist can just copy it instinctively, they mention that Ella had finesse with her powers even on his level, wich he hasn't, when he learns to make metal, I believe he ended up reading her genetics and copying the ability from that, and not from his practice, eventually he adapted to Jake's ability and we might be slowly working towards him adapting monster powers on contact, kinda like the protagonist from Infamous Second Son
One bonus thing that kinda works with this theory is that his weakness is electricity, like he is made out of neurons or something like that, electrical currents disrupting the memory tissue and making it mutate randomly and out of control
So TLDR; protag might have the power like "Memory of the universe" or "Gaia Memory" or some edgy shit like that in the end

 

[alkeera]

Just reached the end of available content.
After 20 minutes in game i didn't even care about smut and just stayed for the story. It's amazing. Some kind of eldritch version of concept from

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with well-developed characters.
And storywise we didn't even get to the good part yet. Another interesting aspect is in my opinion MC's memory manipulation (?) ability and its synergy with cellshifting (?). MC can make clothes and shift into metal and liquid so what other possibilities are within reach? Tardigrades? Slave-making ants? What about other living things? Plants? Cordyceps? Or not so living or dead? Viruses? Dinosaurs? Other monsters? Memory reading is interesting too. We saw that it is something more than just reading. Can MC make second brain and use it to control more limbs which he kinda already did with his new tail? Or make another body and upload consumed memories in it? Hive-mind or multiple mini brains like ones octopuses have?
But anyway how often are updates released?

 

[TerminusPrime]

Just reached the end of available content.
After 20 minutes in game i didn't even care about smut and just stayed for the story. It's amazing. Some kind of eldritch version of concept from

You must be registered to see the links

with well-developed characters.
And storywise we didn't even get to the good part yet. Another interesting aspect is in my opinion MC's memory manipulation (?) ability and its synergy with cellshifting (?). MC can make clothes and shift into metal and liquid so what other possibilities are within reach? Tardigrades? Slave-making ants? What about other living things? Plants? Cordyceps? Or not so living or dead? Viruses? Dinosaurs? Other monsters? Memory reading is interesting too. We saw that it is something more than just reading. Can MC make second brain and use it to control more limbs which he kinda already did with his new tail? Or make another body and upload consumed memories in it? Hive-mind or multiple mini brains like ones octopuses have?
But anyway how often are updates released?

Updates generally come around every two months.

 

[RogueEagle]

Neither Accelerator(vector) nor the number 7(hero/guts power) are protas thou... Also there was already a monster with powers to negate abilities, the walls of HERO are made of it.

Val negates some elements, not all powers, power to negate powers means it negates all powers, physical included, it basically nullifies all powers, Val miasma is a protection against elements wich means that physical powers still hold...
As for the walls of HERO, that is a material that is not affected by powers, it doesn't nullify powers inside HERO seeing as the MC and poison dude literally released their power inside of HERO.
As for Accelerator and Number 7, they are meme fuel like i said in my comment "meme powers" and "plot armor".

 

[RogueEagle]

And protag is probably working towards copying powers from others Valrvn said something about him beying the "memory" power or somethin, can't remember the exact phrasing and he talks weird, so, this is just my tinfoil hat theory but get this, the protagonist was attacked by two monsters, he got 2 abilities, reading the memory of others and transmutation, of his own body initially but extended to others recently, Ella has the second one, but I don't think she has the first one, when you show up to train with her WAY BACK when you have the chance to show her the poison tendrils, if you do, she sais "Oh, then you are ready" and kills you or some shit, you get a dead end, I don't think she has that ability to read the memory and more specifically the genetic memory of things, that's why we don't see her turn into animals and such too much, I believe she had to learn the intricacies of what she turns into, and the protagonist can just copy it instinctively, they mention that Ella had finesse with her powers even on his level, wich he hasn't, when he learns to make metal, I believe he ended up reading her genetics and copying the ability from that, and not from his practice, eventually he adapted to Jake's ability and we might be slowly working towards him adapting monster powers on contact, kinda like the protagonist from Infamous Second Son
One bonus thing that kinda works with this theory is that his weakness is electricity, like he is made out of neurons or something like that, electrical currents disrupting the memory tissue and making it mutate randomly and out of control
So TLDR; protag might have the power like "Memory of the universe" or "Gaia Memory" or some edgy shit like that in the end

I think the fact that both Numbered came after the MC might have a factor in that, because only the 3th came after Ella and not both like in the case of the MC in wich they both go after him, then after he chooses his "mentor" both of them appear in front of him again, that would explain why he is The One, because he is literally an anomaly.

 

[RogueEagle]

Just reached the end of available content.
After 20 minutes in game i didn't even care about smut and just stayed for the story. It's amazing. Some kind of eldritch version of concept from

You must be registered to see the links

with well-developed characters.
And storywise we didn't even get to the good part yet. Another interesting aspect is in my opinion MC's memory manipulation (?) ability and its synergy with cellshifting (?). MC can make clothes and shift into metal and liquid so what other possibilities are within reach? Tardigrades? Slave-making ants? What about other living things? Plants? Cordyceps? Or not so living or dead? Viruses? Dinosaurs? Other monsters? Memory reading is interesting too. We saw that it is something more than just reading. Can MC make second brain and use it to control more limbs which he kinda already did with his new tail? Or make another body and upload consumed memories in it? Hive-mind or multiple mini brains like ones octopuses have?
But anyway how often are updates released?

MC can make extra Eyes, limbs, antidotes, poison, liquify his body, increase/decrease size, possibilities are infinite if you ask me.

 

[lavilao]

And protag is probably working towards copying powers from others Valrvn said something about him beying the "memory" power or somethin, can't remember the exact phrasing and he talks weird, so, this is just my tinfoil hat theory but get this, the protagonist was attacked by two monsters, he got 2 abilities, reading the memory of others and transmutation, of his own body initially but extended to others recently, Ella has the second one, but I don't think she has the first one, when you show up to train with her WAY BACK when you have the chance to show her the poison tendrils, if you do, she sais "Oh, then you are ready" and kills you or some shit, you get a dead end, I don't think she has that ability to read the memory and more specifically the genetic memory of things, that's why we don't see her turn into animals and such too much, I believe she had to learn the intricacies of what she turns into, and the protagonist can just copy it instinctively, they mention that Ella had finesse with her powers even on his level, wich he hasn't, when he learns to make metal, I believe he ended up reading her genetics and copying the ability from that, and not from his practice, eventually he adapted to Jake's ability and we might be slowly working towards him adapting monster powers on contact, kinda like the protagonist from Infamous Second Son
One bonus thing that kinda works with this theory is that his weakness is electricity, like he is made out of neurons or something like that, electrical currents disrupting the memory tissue and making it mutate randomly and out of control
So TLDR; protag might have the power like "Memory of the universe" or "Gaia Memory" or some edgy shit like that in the end

I remember that poison tentacles part
ella: you are perfect
me: good
ella: you are exactly what I need
me: good+
ella: die
me:... WTF?!