VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[lg545]

I don't think level 3 Alice would have any chance of a win against the mc neither do I think the other friends would fare any better than her against the mc.Mc had a decent time to grow in his level 3 now.Before level 3 power is capped.Whereas mc has been growing his power stats at a pretty nice rate and at level 3 even the base body becomes stronger to accommodate the no cap.So imo no way the other friends ever get stronger than the mc they might get real close tho.Now Unless Alice gains crazy amount of power each day at level 3 maybe then something would happen but I don't see it.

1.we compare just lvl 3 Alice and lvl 3 MC (not his advanced version)?
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2.Alice is handle ultimate destructive power - i mean enough power to on her current lvl present a solid threat to lvl 3 Matt (as he said - it could actually kill him and his set of power make him very hard to deal damage).
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3.Lvl 3 is rapid grow in terms of power and all basic abilities. To the point where this is not even fair. If Alice already has capability to kill lvl 3 superhuman, then on lvl 3 she possibly would handle such power which would be able to vaporise MC in one strike (basicly as Male twin show - this is worst match for MC)

 

[Saiyajin2205]

While it's hard to make actual comparisons, the game and WW himself make it seem like Alice would be stronger than MC if they were on the same level. For example I don't see how a level 1 MC would take on the Chimera, even with Clark's power in his veins. Alice is significantly more destructive as a level 1 than MC as a level 2.

It only makes sense that at highers levels, this difference on the physical side will become more pronounced. It's just how the powers are designed. Even now, MC's grasp on the Memory side isn't that great. He had some practice with the more esoteric aspects but at no point during his training he actually used Memory in a combat scenario.

Which means that at this point in time, MC is still 100% physical. Even if he has double the power level, a level 3 Alice should be able to surpass him on the physical side. Even as a level 2 she has enough raw power to threaten a level 3, at least according to Met's narration.

Due to this, I expect that MC will gain some form of edge before we see his friends evolve more just to avoid the "catching up" scenario in aspects that matter to MC.

Nah nah I get what you are saying and if mc was level 2 and Alice was level 2 alive would be stronger still tho I would think mc would best her in fight even though mc is weaker than her by stat points.But my main point was mc having a good amount of time to accumulate power at level 3 has widened the gap a lot in my eyes so as I said mc imo would always have a big lead over them when they reach level 3 and level 3 gain also constantly strengthens the base body stats..Also with MC's transformations his stats are a lot higher than your average level 3 Mc' base stats might be lower than your average physical level 3 but that argument goes out of the window when mc's base body gets stronger each day due to the no cap now.That was my thinking behind mc not losing because they wouldn't simply catch up and mc can cheat death mc has big advantage over others in that regard mc doesn't have to care about getting injured so even if mc would somehow get left behind in the power race because Alice gains power at a crazy fast levels I would think mc would still come out on top.Mc's level hasn't even been able to show it's full potential till now.Overall tho I just don't think Alice and the tiwhr should gain power at as faster rate than the mc when they reach level 3.Ofcourse all of this I want I think and expect would happen who knows what actually might happen.

 

[Saiyajin2205]

1.we compare just lvl 3 Alice and lvl 3 MC (not his advanced version)?
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2.Alice is handle ultimate destructive power - i mean enough power to on her current lvl present a solid threat to lvl 3 Matt (as he said - it could actually kill him and his set of power make him very hard to deal damage).
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3.Lvl 3 is rapid grow in terms of power and all basic abilities. To the point where this is not even fair. If Alice already has capability to kill lvl 3 superhuman, then on lvl 3 she possibly would handle such power which would be able to vaporise MC in one strike (basicly as Male twin show - this is worst match for MC)

1. Well I didn't I am talking about the realistic scenario where the friends achieve level 3 and I am going that way by saying mc would have a lead on them.

2.Sure.But it's not the same Mc can attack Alice without getting his shit destroyed Alice sure can destroy mc no doubt about that but she needs to connect with her most devastating attacks.

3.yeah I simply don't think Alice would be capable of hitting mc.Mc with his shapeshifter abilities would be ahle to dodge most destructive strikes of Alice.I can't say anything for whatever she would gain because we don't know.As I said before my comparison is based upon on the current game scenario so Mc's base body gets strengthen each day aswell as level 3 have no caps.I don't see Alice hitting the mc with her stronger attacks mc with his transformations is a lot faster and his base body would also be easily faster.

Either way me and Gt were talking about current mc fighting a Alice who would evolve to level 3.

 

[lg545]

While it's hard to make actual comparisons, the game and WW himself make it seem like Alice would be stronger than MC if they were on the same level. For example I don't see how a level 1 MC would take on the Chimera, even with Clark's power in his veins. Alice is significantly more destructive as a level 1 than MC as a level 2.

This is contest between raw power and versatility

 

[lg545]

Well I didn't I am talking about the realistic scenario where the friends achieve level 3 and I am going that way by saying mc would have a lead on them.

Well, more likely base lvl 3 MC vs base lvl 3 Alice.
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I get that MC have huge advantages in terms of progressing his power lvl. Like:
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1)Most obvious one - time. MC become superhuman earlier than Alice and when she got her powers, he already evolve on lvl 2 (well, soon after she get her powers)
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2)Proper training - MC from very start knew how to train his powers thanks to Ella with similar powerset and her own interest in making MC stronger. Later MC get his mom. While Alice 80% of her training was forced to think something on her own (well, Xsante probably make some suggestions)
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3)Convenient power - MC could eat some shit, analyse it structure and become stronger. Alice obviously cant do so

.yeah I simply don't think Alice would be capable of hitting mc.Mv with his shapeshifter abilities would be ahle to dodge most destructive strikes of Alice.I can't say anything for whatever she would gain because we don't know.As I said before my comparison is based upon on the current game scenario so Mc's base body gets strengthen each day aswell as level 3 have no caps.I don't see Alice hitting the mc with her stronger attacks mc with his transformations is a lot faster and his base body would also be easily faster.

Well, it depends on her range in AOE attacks or new set of abilities (like gravity control in certain area or something like this)

 

[New Kid]

yeah, but what if cole evolve mid fight, can MC still win 1v1? i think he will need help if cole evolves and MC not

Probably not, fighting someone on a higher level evolution high is pretty much suicide, the MC himself turned fights around because he evolved in the middle of them to catch up with his opponents level, it's pretty easy to imagine the MC will struggle to runaway if Cole manages to evolve mid-fight as not only he will be replenished but also at a higher level than the MC. And Cole also has a fancy new weapon too, who knows what that thing does, not many fights used equipments in the proper way yet...

Finally, let's not forget that the area is crumbling, it's the perfect excuse for both having to back off before the fight is resolved. Some straggler from Cole's group will probably come to snatch him before the dimension collapses, leaving an opening for the MC to run away.

 

[Gtdead]

This is contest between raw power and versatility

Versatility is important when fighting a wide array of various enemies, but in a forced physical confrontation, raw power has the advantage.
Since her level 2, Alice became very well rounded. It's natural to assume that anything she can do now, she can do far better at level 3.

This means that:
1. She can stop MC from fleeing / kiting and restrict his mobility with her gravity pull power.
2. She can flood him with enough bombs to beat his regeneration.
3. Her Implosion ability should be able to outright kill him if he can't escape the effect.
4. Nothing has ever managed to slice through her fist orbs, so it's unlikely that any weapon MC can make could ever do it.
5. Her passive barrier should be strong enough to hold against stray tentacles. She will need to be exhausted before MC can cleanly kill her with one.
6. It's also unlikely that ranged attacks can get through her frontal active barrier. We've seen her stop lightning attacks with the orbs, stopping MC's javelins should be fairly easy for her.

MC has 3 things going for him in this fight.
1. Burrowed tentacles.
2. Plate Armor
3. Mantis Strikes.

Everything has a caveat here.
Burrowed tentacles are effective only if Alice can't maintain her passive barrier.
Plate Armor is good to tank fists and bombs, but it makes him weak to the implosion attack that almost killed Met as a level 2.
Mantris Strikes are probably good enough to slice her in half, but good luck landing one. She will just parry with her fist orbs and it's quite likely that MC's weapons will break on impact.

If MC manifests a Memory ability capable of stunning his enemies, enemies like Alice will be nothing to him. Stun -> Mantis Strike and it's game over. But I need to see some proof of concept first. Otherwise the most fair simulation wants Alice to be able to at least react to anything MC does, and she just has too much going for her in this match up even without manifesting new abilities.

 

[TheShelly]

Versatility is important when fighting a wide array of various enemies, but in a forced physical confrontation, raw power has the advantage.
Since her level 2, Alice became very well rounded. It's natural to assume that anything she can do now, she can do far better at level 3.

This means that:
1. She can stop MC from fleeing / kiting and restrict his mobility with her gravity pull power.
2. She can flood him with enough bombs to beat his regeneration.
3. Her Implosion ability should be able to outright kill him if he can't escape the effect.
4. Nothing has ever managed to slice through her fist orbs, so it's unlikely that any weapon MC can make could ever do it.
5. Her passive barrier should be strong enough to hold against stray tentacles. She will need to be exhausted before MC can cleanly kill her with one.
6. It's also unlikely that ranged attacks can get through her frontal active barrier. We've seen her stop lightning attacks with the orbs, stopping MC's javelins should be fairly easy for her.

MC has 3 things going for him in this fight.
1. Burrowed tentacles.
2. Plate Armor
3. Mantis Strikes.

Everything has a caveat here.
Burrowed tentacles are effective only if Alice can't maintain her passive barrier.
Plate Armor is good to tank fists and bombs, but it makes him weak to the implosion attack that almost killed Met as a level 2.
Mantris Strikes are probably good enough to slice her in half, but good luck landing one. She will just parry with her fist orbs and it's quite likely that MC's weapons will break on impact.

If MC manifests a Memory ability capable of stunning his enemies, enemies like Alice will be nothing to him. Stun -> Mantis Strike and it's game over. But I need to see some proof of concept first. Otherwise the most fair simulation wants Alice to be able to at least react to anything MC does, and she just has too much going for her in this match up even without manifesting new abilities.

What If MC uses more than 2 arms against Alice in a fight, like he did with Valravn? Two unbreakable shields wont help shit if you have more than 2 weapons. After-all, all the cephalopod memories and the multi-arm proficiency gained from the vestige would certainly mean that MC has the capability of overwhelming Alice's defenses through sheer volume of multi-directional attacks.

 

[Gtdead]

What If MC uses more than 2 arms against Alice in a fight, like he did with Valravn? Two unbreakable shields wont help shit if you have more than 2 weapons. After-all, all the cephalopod memories and the multi-arm proficiency gained from the vestige would certainly mean that MC has the capability of overwhelming Alice's defenses through sheer volume of multi-directional attacks.

Graviton Impact?
If he can make more arms that are protected by his plate armor, then perhaps he may get an edge. He will still have to go through her orbs which are better defensively than Valravn's sword, as they can cover more area. But every time we see MC fight with multiple limbs, they are either bare tails or tentacles. Alice can easy send them flying with her Graviton Impact.

 

[OnlyNeverNow]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

 

[Snugglepuff]

Little did McDude McManlyman realise when that Lovecraftian horror approched him, destiny had come calling... So he was reborn, and donned the mantle of McHeroman!

I like a bit of stupid humour every now & then, and the name(s) just make me giggle at some of the most inappropriate times in the story.

 

[adanu]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

For my 'pure' playthrough, I go with Black Knight. For my corrupted playthrough where I don't give a fuck about being a hero and just want to take care of my harem, I go with Flux.

Black Knight because he may as well be a knight with his attitude and with his colors it's on brand.

For Flux, because this version of him would do ANYTHING to win just about, so he will manipulate his body and those around him to keep his women safe and secure. He might be a monster, but he's that monster that those he considers under his protection love. Women have a thing for killers if said killers do it for their protection.

 

[FakeTemplar]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

I chose "Adam" because I pictured him as the first of many to come. That didn't go as planned with H.E.R.O. already working in the shadows, but the name is still cool in my head and it works well with his relationship with Ella, like she's the snake that gave him the "forbidden fruit".

 

[-Maniackanime-]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

Mine is Shade, a pure path I took in this one, I always feel edgy reading into the story, I believe I named him that because he seems to be an important piece that will play into the future, naturally, not just because he's the MC but because of his godlike powers that is, to save life, either by fighting or healing and protecting others and in this messed up setting/world where humans have no place but be constantly be put in danger to almost no one's care, a little shade that will save them from all that horror is what he'll be.

 

[DefaultNK]

I'm curious, what are people's Superhero names for MC?

I went for No-Thing, tried to headcanon it as MC saying their superhero name was nothing and it becoming their name. And I thought it sort of fit with how he doesn't have a set form anymore, his default form could be a pile of shit if his internal self image was terrible enough

But yeah what did others choose and why?

I chose Jacket because I'd been replaying Hotline Miami recently when the choice came up the MC covers himself in full body armor when doing superhero activities.

 

[Davner]

Little did McDude McManlyman realise when that Lovecraftian horror approched him, he'd be destiny had come calling... So he was reborn, and donned the mantle of McHeroman!

I like a bit of stupid humour every now & then, and the name(s) just make me giggle at some of the most inappropriate times in the story.

Me I went for Revan cause I was playing KOTOR again and I love Revan.

 

[OnlyNeverNow]

I chose "Adam" because I pictured him as the first of many to come. That didn't go as planned with H.E.R.O. already working in the shadows, but the name is still cool in my head and it works well with his relationship with Ella, like she's the snake that gave him the "forbidden fruit".

I like the motivation behind this a lot! "Adam" would probably, in hindsight, have made a good villain name for poor Kenny considering his shtick was birthing mini monsters? But I really like your retconned reasoning as well lmao

Mine is Shade, a pure path I took in this one, I always feel edgy reading into the story, I believe I named him that because he seems to be an important piece that will play into the future, naturally, not just because he's the MC but because of his godlike powers that is, to save life, either by fighting or healing and protecting others and in this messed up setting/world where humans have no place but be constantly be put in danger to almost no one's care, a little shade that will save them from all that horror is what he'll be.

I feeel this, agreed that I always feel my inner 13 year old edgelord pumping his fist every other scene. My original name idea was "Sludge" but I almost overdosed on the edge. Very apt name tho, plus as a shade I think there's an image of something without any set form so its doubly cool.

 

[lorkdubo]

I can't be the only umbra right?

 

[Netao_Da_Caxixola]

My MC'S hero name is Hellboy

 

[statue345]

Mine is Night Terror