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-Maniackanime-

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I mean all avn's are somewhat linear even the ones with the most branching. This is a harem which (as usual) doesnt have thiiiiis much branching but you can define your relationship to Ella as you prefer it.

You can even chose to fight her at poins, you just wont win and the story will end lol. So the only MC which story continues is the smart one who plays by her rules as long as he has to because he's weak and only starts to punish or whatever people when he at least has a tiny chance at winning.

Youre at a point where youre not really aware how far the gap between ella and mc is (he is neither), so he plays it safe.
Yeah there's a lot of branch but that's not the correct way, so you die lmao, at least that's how Weirdworld does it, it's kinda funny in a way but it also makes sense.

There's a lot going on in the Superhuman verse and honestly death is the only answer to those who aren't in the right path, which is kinda a edgy mindset but it's fun to justify it this way. Just like most shonen anime, Mc's a product of fate, with all the danger in the world, and MC is centered in it, every misstep leads to death.
 

DefaultNK

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The discussion of Ella being "evil" or not is also a huge one here, we still don't have the full scope of her plans or even intentions so you will find people arguing both cases.
I'm really surprised that it's a contentious topic considering that, without exaggeration, every single significant bad thing that happens to the protagonist over the course of the story so far falls into one of two camps:
A) Things directly caused by Ella
B) Things indirectly caused by Ella

Yes, she also sometimes acts helpful, and no, we don't know if her ultimate goal is benevolent, but I could say roughly the same thing about Valravn and he was literally on his way to the nearest orphanage planning to eat all of the children when the MC took him down. I can understand liking Ella as a character, thinking the story is more interesting if MC is amicable with her, and/or thinking she's hot, but I don't understand how someone could think she's not evil. Not only is she evil, but she is currently the main villain of the game.
 

KingAgamemnon

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I'm really surprised that it's a contentious topic considering that, without exaggeration, every single significant bad thing that happens to the protagonist over the course of the story so far falls into one of two camps:
A) Things directly caused by Ella
B) Things indirectly caused by Ella
This response is hyperbolic, but now I want to see how it was actually Ella that sent Power's apostle after our mom.
"She was gonna adopt me and save me from this hell but she didn't, so I want you to kill her and maybe also give MC a tragic backstory so he can be my knight in shining armor later on."
 

DefaultNK

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This response is hyperbolic, but now I want to see how it was actually Ella that sent Power's apostle after our mom.
"She was gonna adopt me and save me from this hell but she didn't, so I want you to kill her and maybe also give MC a tragic backstory so he can be my knight in shining armor later on."
My logic is that MC's mom died before the game starts so it doesn't count as haven taken place "over the course of the story." She's also technically not responsible for MC getting captured by Klaus, but only because MC managed to independently pick a fight with him for reasons outside of Ella's meddling. Unless she's the one who told Klaus that MC is weak to electricity which honestly doesn't seem completely out of the realm of possibility. She is, however, directly responsible for making the MC fight Jake, Daryll, and Cole, and for Daryll turning into a monster. She is indirectly responsible for him having to fight Kenny and Valravn, and everything related to S.I.N is her indirectly fault too since her talk Langdon makes it pretty clear that the organization never could have gotten off the ground without her.
 

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Okay I can agree with everything else, but Cole fought us because he wanted to bang Ella and didn't like how she turned him down. I'm not sure I would consider that even indirectly responsible for our fight, its just Cole being his usual dipfuck self.
Yeah hes just an asshole pretty sure its mentioned somewhere ella doesnt like his behavior or some shit
 

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Soo...anyone know If the dev finally made a decision about stop boring updates? lets be honest this game Is a great, but we all can agree last update was a joke, I mean AFTER the Cole fight this game basicly become a "walking simulator on some kinda of nowhere" where gose all the fun from beggining? Im not even speak direct about school times (we miss now like half characters we know from there) but the general vibe? back then the game balance perfect around serve us a good amount of fun, jokes and funny situations but also serve us a spicy fights, plot twist and so on...but now I feel like I dont know...I just feel like those updates are shorter than before? ends In the worst possible time?

I just want MC become for ONCE a true player In this world, no, not invincible one, but respected, strong and so on, yeah he may be now strong, maybe not, but I want the game itself make It clear around the world "This guy Is "someone" we dont want to fuck with" right?

What happen with demi? the fat goth girl? The cheerleaders? I have not seen them In ages, and they was not a "random" characters we fuck once and call it a day....

Im will not pretende I know how to write a story, but even tho, my brain telling me It was not right and If the dev dont take those characters Into acount before, when he start write the story its his mistake, not mine.

Yeah one could say we gonna get "SuperHuman2" so what? me and you will had wait months? years? for playable story? unless you want to play 1 hour each 3 months update and wait another 3 months....

Its not a hate because as I say I really like the game and the arts, I just feel like the dev wants to pack In to much things and In the end he realize he cannot use all this In one game In order to not make this game 1 year longer updates due to the things he intend to pack...

The good thing Is at least I feel mc goot his next evolution next update and maybe then, the game gain some refresh, from boring as fuck last updates (yeah mom fight was epic, but It was our mom not MC}
 

KingAgamemnon

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Soo...anyone know If the dev finally made a decision about stop boring updates? lets be honest this game Is a great, but we all can agree last update was a joke, I mean AFTER the Cole fight this game basicly become a "walking simulator on some kinda of nowhere" where gose all the fun from beggining? Im not even speak direct about school times (we miss now like half characters we know from there) but the general vibe? back then the game balance perfect around serve us a good amount of fun, jokes and funny situations but also serve us a spicy fights, plot twist and so on...but now I feel like I dont know...I just feel like those updates are shorter than before? ends In the worst possible time?

I just want MC become for ONCE a true player In this world, no, not invincible one, but respected, strong and so on, yeah he may be now strong, maybe not, but I want the game itself make It clear around the world "This guy Is "someone" we dont want to fuck with" right?

What happen with demi? the fat goth girl? The cheerleaders? I have not seen them In ages, and they was not a "random" characters we fuck once and call it a day....

Im will not pretende I know how to write a story, but even tho, my brain telling me It was not right and If the dev dont take those characters Into acount before, when he start write the story its his mistake, not mine.

Yeah one could say we gonna get "SuperHuman2" so what? me and you will had wait months? years? for playable story? unless you want to play 1 hour each 3 months update and wait another 3 months....

Its not a hate because as I say I really like the game and the arts, I just feel like the dev wants to pack In to much things and In the end he realize he cannot use all this In one game In order to not make this game 1 year longer updates due to the things he intend to pack...

The good thing Is at least I feel mc goot his next evolution next update and maybe then, the game gain some refresh, from boring as fuck last updates (yeah mom fight was epic, but It was our mom not MC}
You don't get to be a major player without power or connections. MC is still a small fry, and will continue to be a comparative small fry even after achieving his next evolution. He is growing his connections, but is still too dependent on HERO to break off and form his own thing. All things in due time.

Also hating on our kino slice of life walking simulator update is mega cringe. The lulls in between high octane combat scenarios are importance for pacing structure. Good stories know when to let the reader settle in, and not just jump from one catastrophe to the next.

I will give you that I miss the college girls. I definitely think they didn't deserve to be iced from the story. Maybe when the MC breaks off, we'll be able to bring them with us, then they'll be more relevant. Maybe that will be an important metric in how effective our break-off from HERO will be.
 

shujuku

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Ella is fucked in the head

Ella is literally this: Fuck if some people are going to die, what matters is achieving my goals

You(Mc) don't like it, you're angry with me? Try to stop me, ah! Sorry I forgot, you can't because you're too weak! Get strong or die, it makes no difference to me.

That's basically it, would she be a villain? Hard to say, if you could save an entire city by sacrificing a few hundred lives? Would you? Of course, Ella may well not care about the world, and all she wants is to save herself and her friends

In the end, I invite you to play and enjoy this beautiful work of art, my brother!

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I found this to be the weaker part of the writing in superhuman. Ella can wreck havoc on all tiers and just brush it off with "womp womp get stronk or die noob". It would be cool if we got some hints at it in the beginning that there's stronger, more influential, dangerous beings other than Ella on a whole other scale. Atleast then we would have gotten some understanding of what she is doing.

Personally I think it got a lot to do with how WW approached the game in the beginning, considering its his first game its no surprise that its lacking in some departments in the beginning but picks up pace quite fast as you progress into the story.
 
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I'm really surprised that it's a contentious topic considering that, without exaggeration, every single significant bad thing that happens to the protagonist over the course of the story so far falls into one of two camps:
A) Things directly caused by Ella
B) Things indirectly caused by Ella

Yes, she also sometimes acts helpful, and no, we don't know if her ultimate goal is benevolent, but I could say roughly the same thing about Valravn and he was literally on his way to the nearest orphanage planning to eat all of the children when the MC took him down. I can understand liking Ella as a character, thinking the story is more interesting if MC is amicable with her, and/or thinking she's hot, but I don't understand how someone could think she's not evil. Not only is she evil, but she is currently the main villain of the game.
Ella is the living enbodiment of "survival of the fittest".
She's the only characters that KNOWS something unprecedented and apocalyptic is about to happen (probably is already happening while we're in the monster world), and humanity HAS to shape up if they want a fighting chance.

If she didn't act you would still continue your clueless life and die miserably in a year or so, like the rest of the world.

All the deaths and suffering she has directly and indirectly caused are nothing compared to what would've happened otherwise. If she could press a button and kill 5 random people to save another 10, she would smash that button.

She even knew she would die if she proceeded with her plan, and still went for it.

I disagree on your claims of villainy. She's the main hero of the game.
 
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Ella is the living enbodiment of "survival of the fittest".
She's the only characters that KNOWS something unprecedented and apocalyptic is about to happen (probably is already happening while we're in the monster world), and humanity HAS to shape up if they want a fighting chance.

If she didn't act you would still continue your clueless life and die miserably in a year or so, like the rest of the world.

All the deaths and suffering she has directly and indirectly caused are nothing compared to what would've happened otherwise. If she could press a button and kill 5 random people to save another 10, she would smash that button.

She even knew she would die if she proceeded with her plan, and still went for it.

I disagree on your claims of villainy. She's the main hero of the game.
Ella has her reasons, which are understandable, but do not put her on a pedestal like some kind of inevitable martyr. Monsters are dime a dozen(Hope it's spelled like that), and if the big guys wouldn't get the MC infected, some other quite probably would. She is in no way benevolent or working for better cause; she is quite likely the one being that pushes the coming of the apostoles aka the game over screen, she warped (using hexenringe) onto the world sizable percent of monsters that came to it in the last quite a few years. And she behaves, and just is, a self-centered cunt.
 

DrakoGhoul

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My logic is that MC's mom died before the game starts so it doesn't count as haven taken place "over the course of the story." She's also technically not responsible for MC getting captured by Klaus, but only because MC managed to independently pick a fight with him for reasons outside of Ella's meddling. Unless she's the one who told Klaus that MC is weak to electricity which honestly doesn't seem completely out of the realm of possibility. She is, however, directly responsible for making the MC fight Jake, Daryll, and Cole, and for Daryll turning into a monster. She is indirectly responsible for him having to fight Kenny and Valravn, and everything related to S.I.N is her indirectly fault too since her talk Langdon makes it pretty clear that the organization never could have gotten off the ground without her.
Klaus is Ella's fault too. She's the one that tipped him off about MC. That's along with the whole diner thing with Tiffany.

Okay I can agree with everything else, but Cole fought us because he wanted to bang Ella and didn't like how she turned him down. I'm not sure I would consider that even indirectly responsible for our fight, its just Cole being his usual dipfuck self.
It is indirect. She baited Cole into being wary of MC after he joined HERO. Saying that if he doesn't get stronger soon, MC is going to surpass him. Even alluding to him potential dying. She then made sure to send Cole to the TV interview while MC was there after stirring the pot. You can blame Cole's ego and immaturity, but Ella undoubtedly added fuel to it intentionally.

This is not directed to you. But we got to stop this narrative of Ella's vague ass goal being some ultimate save humanity better than anything else option. We don't even know if that's even her goal in the first place or if she can even achieve it without MC help. With Apostles, Arbiters, Outer Twins and other gods out there that dwarf her in power and knowledge. Without heavy plot armor carrying her, it's not achievable. Especially not by herself with no help at all.

Hell, why should MC even care about her end goal in the first place? She doesn't tell him anything about it. Only a dumbass would follow someone else's plan without know anything. In fact, if MC didn't find her doll, her plan would've ended right there and all of this shit she caused would've amount to nothing. As MC had one of the vials needed to revive her. Without it, she couldn't come back in time without help.
 
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