VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Grimnir098]

Ignoring that pathetic try of flailing one's incelligence around and calling other's stupid. I can do that too, far better than you, choosing not to because it's a wrong thing to do in a conversation about a topic.



Besides me calling her a cunt, the rest of that was to point to her overall not valuing human life, at all, which is my point of her being evil, not likely not bad, just evil. Also, what kind of debunking is this?
1 - Yes, she never turns people that can't make it, that's why those two did make it, clearly capable of pulling through, none of them monsterified, after all. Like, what even is your take here? That if she is certain that you won't pull through that she doesn't do it? Okay, then she just gambles lives of people away.
2 - Yes, he attacked her, the bystander, who had nothing to do with it, certainly not arranging his infection firsthand, so she was innocent. Even more abhorrent is her reaction to that. Remorse at killing someone? Feeling bad? No, "man, I'm losing my touch", not even acknowledging a human life she wasted away for fucking nothing.
3 - Yes, no evidence. This was an overstretch on my part, I just assumed since she case after case manipulates people and uses them, that this is the case here, but it might be different. So yeah, the orphanage is unusable argument.
4 - Oh, not killing MC? Just doing whatever the hell she did, maybe worse? Ok, better examples then: What about that time she murdered her class for a power boost? All right, maybe greater good, grand plan, I'm good and shit and all that, still failed to get what she truly needed so this kinda was just a murderous killing spree, which might be evil, but I can't put my finger on it. All right, another one then: hobo she gutted and turned into a meatball. For what, being a dick, that was already put in place by MC? Or for showing that you can transform others with your power? If there was another way of showing that to a shapeshifter... like using mouth to fucking say that. It's not like she showed MC some direct way to do that, just threw the idea at the wind, one life less on the world. But, I dunno, you loathe hobos and this human life has no meaning for you, okay then. The worst example, that is just quite about literally undefendable. Valravn. She did not even consider for a minute the lives lost if she sets him free. She knew this will be disastrous, she knows what it is and how it works. She needed distraction, so why fucking bother with lives? It's not like Valravn will go specifically after innocent and children, the more innocent and younger the better.
5 - Again, I do not, this is also an overstretch on my part. I assumed again, since she never did consider lives lost, pain and suffering ever before (Valravn, hobo, class, everyone everywhere) that she did not here. But it's not a counterargument too - since no one knows what her plan is. Might not even be about surviving as remnants of humanity, now superhumanity, might just be one giant blood sacrifice. As it currently stands, we just do not know.
6 - ?

So yeah, for now Ella shows quite only a disregard for human life, manipulation, narcissism, power hungry and bitchy behavior. She might work for greater "good", whatever that entails, no one can prove that now, probably never, for now only show of Ella is that of evil shitling that have some morals somewhere. Like the another guy in the thread said some pages ago, if Ella was a dude, no one would be sperming over her and defending her, but some smell pussy even through the electricity and pixels.

I usually don't insult people's intelligence, but the pretense you put up is very irritating, and it's only become even more obvious just how little thought you've put into this.

1. Don't twist my words. I said, "If she knows you aren't able to handle it," not that she never turns people who can't make it. Ella isn't omniscient, as you pointed out, so why do you suddenly expect her to be now? Is it because it serves your argument?
2a. Does he even blame her? Can you provide a quote of that?
2b. Not feeling remorse or 'bad' for killing someone doesn't mean anything other than she's desensitized to human death, which is not inherently evil. Also, saying she wasted his life for nothing implies there was no reason for her to infect him, which we know isn't true.
4a. "Just doing whatever the hell she did, maybe worse?" Okay, so you admit you have no idea what she intended, including whether it was how bad it was. Then why bring it up?
4b. Yes, yes, no need to go off on a tangent passive-aggressively conceding that you have no argument. Why even bring up her murdering her class at that point?
4c. She killed the hobo because he was a threat to the kids. I don't remember that scene too clearly, but wasn't he willing to get violent with them? Even if MC put him in his place, there's no reason to think he won't just show up later when MC isn't around. That's what bullies do.
4d. So? Depending on what her plan is, and what the alternatives are, I'd be willing to write off even that.
I mean, if everyone dies in a year, what does it matter if some kids die a little sooner?
5. Yes it is a counterargument. You're the one making the claim that Ella is evil, thus the burden of proof is on you. I don't need to provide evidence that Ella has a plan to save humanity and even bring back everyone who died since the monsters invaded, I can just point out that you have no idea what her plan is or how she arrived at the conclusion that she needs to enact it at all costs.
6. "She behaves as self-entitled, self-centered, self-absorbed, narcisstic cunt. To everyone she can, or think she can get away with. Power tripping is not a good thing, neither neutral too."
You didn't really provide any evidence of this.

You'd definitely have less people defending Ella, but I also defend Jake and Deryl. Her pussy isn't not a factor in my thought process.

 

[Ddlc]

Sometimes I feel like whenever I return here after being away for a few days people are always at each other's throats, you guys really make me feel at home .

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

I usually don't insult people's intelligence, but the pretense you put up is very irritating, and it's only become even more obvious just how little thought you've put into this.

1. Don't twist my words. I said, "If she knows you aren't able to handle it," not that she never turns people who can't make it. Ella isn't omniscient, as you pointed out, so why do you suddenly expect her to be now? Is it because it serves your argument?
2a. Does he even blame her? Can you provide a quote of that?
2b. Not feeling remorse or 'bad' for killing someone doesn't mean anything other than she's desensitized to human death, which is not inherently evil. Also, saying she wasted his life for nothing implies there was no reason for her to infect him, which we know isn't true.
4a. "Just doing whatever the hell she did, maybe worse?" Okay, so you admit you have no idea what she intended, including whether it was how bad it was. Then why bring it up?
4b. Yes, yes, no need to go off on a tangent passive-aggressively conceding that you have no argument. Why even bring up her murdering her class at that point?
4c. She killed the hobo because he was a threat to the kids. I don't remember that scene too clearly, but wasn't he willing to get violent with them? Even if MC put him in his place, there's no reason to think he won't just show up later when MC isn't around. That's what bullies do.
4d. So? Depending on what her plan is, and what the alternatives are, I'd be willing to write off even that.
I mean, if everyone dies in a year, what does it matter if some kids die a little sooner?
5. Yes it is a counterargument. You're the one making the claim that Ella is evil, thus the burden of proof is on you. I don't need to provide evidence that Ella has a plan to save humanity and even bring back everyone who died since the monsters invaded, I can just point out that you have no idea what her plan is or how she arrived at the conclusion that she needs to enact it at all costs.
6. "She behaves as self-entitled, self-centered, self-absorbed, narcisstic cunt. To everyone she can, or think she can get away with. Power tripping is not a good thing, neither neutral too."
You didn't really provide any evidence of this.

You'd definitely have less people defending Ella, but I also defend Jake and Deryl. Her pussy isn't not a factor in my thought process.

OK. The comment about defending a pretty girl's face, was my irritation at the phenomena at large, not really meant to prescribe it to you, you gave no indication of that. But straight out ignoring valid points in what I say, grabbing whatever you can to show how wrong I am, even to take it out of the very context I gave. Typical, kinda expected. "Source? Source? Source?" yeah, kinda expected too, even where my point altogether was sarcasm. But come on, writing off a killing spree as irrelevant? Really? This proves nothing? How in denial can you be about her? But okay. There is, in fact, one way to prove my point, that is not really up to debate, a source of which is actually (if you ignore Ella's behaviour through a game to everyone) an evidence for the sixth point also. Drummrolls please:

"WW said so" ~13th stream

He is the only one who knows what her plan is, and the only one who has a say in what she is. And, according to him, she is, literally, an evil cunt. Oh, and before you start typing, WW means Weird World, the maker of this game, not Warwick from LoL, as to not twist anything more. Curtain drops.

Be seeing you.

 

[Nexum768]

Ella is innocent no one could make me hate her

 

[XeroZero000]

I expect having 2 routes in the end: Power of friendship where everyone helps to solve the final problem vs Power MC where he finish everything alone but dies in the end.

There will probably be more than two endings, but I do think the story will center around two or three major endings, with some dead ends and bad endings sprinkled in.

Like corruption path, neutral path, and pure/least corrupted path?
Since WW said he's going to create SH2, I don't think there will be too much variation between the major endings in the end—for, well, you know why.

 

[Nexum768]

There will probably be more than two endings, but I do think the story will center around two or three major endings, with some dead ends and bad endings sprinkled in.

Like corruption path, neutral path, and pure/least corrupted path?
Since WW said he's going to create SH2, I don't think there will be too much variation between the major endings in the end—for, well, you know why.

I pray ella or emily make it to SH2 i will cry if my queens are gone

 

[bfc233]

Pussy has blinded the masses.

Not really.
It's just that normal moral questions kind of fall by the wayside when there is a problem of the entirety of humanity being killed, eaten, raped and/or turned into barely aware meat puppets.

I'm sorry, if a million people have to have shitty lives and then die horribly for the rest to have a fighting chance... then there is a moral obligation to at least try and save as much as you can, give everyone as much of an edge as possible.

But the queasy feeling you get when you think about it that drives you condemn her is not by accident. This is a black and black choice where you have to choose between 'horrible and it's your fault' and 'absolutely apocalyptically bad but it's not your fault'.

Ella's actions are reprehensible on a good day, but only if you consider them in a vacuum.
And they neither exist in a vacuum nor do they exist in a world where we have her full goals and the full stakes or alternatives.Yet.

In that regard your condemnation is, from a logical point of view, just as silly as outright taking her side. The only thing it does is reveal your character as either hopeful, horny and/or forgiving or (self-)righteous, highly concerned with doing the right thing and just.

We don't know yet and the only thing we're doing is reading the the tea leaves. And that really feels like a waste of time to me.

 

[Skidables]

I used to hate Ella too tbh, but then I met HERO and realized most of these big dogs besides Malik and Clark do not care about the average person it's all " for the greater good." I started to think about it from a different standpoint of Superhuman world Ella is probably in my top 3. Xanthe is willing to sacrifice some people, pretty sure Deus let Val go on that rampage. Everyone has their own goals clearly, is it evil? yes but it isn't just black or white Ella is clearly putting up a front on some parts. By the way saying if Ella was a guy or only being forgiven because she's hot ( which is true) is not really valid imo. Val is a fan favorite and he has done worse, If Bernhardt had done everything Ella did ( he probably has done worse) people would defend him too you know why because those two are just cool as fuck. If Jake was not an idiot he would not be hated as much, but he allowed himself to be manipulated and people dislike spineless dumb characters. You cannot think with our worldviews most are willing to kill for " the greater good" we even see a preview of what happens when you aren't in the Elijah fight, look how it was used against him. After all of that I still do think Ella is evil as fuck, but I love her for that still.

 

[DannyLucifer]

Eye, horn or mask which one is good?

 

[Jonathan Y]

I used to hate Ella too tbh, but then I met HERO and realized most of these big dogs besides Malik and Clark do not care about the average person it's all " for the greater good." I started to think about it from a different standpoint of Superhuman world Ella is probably in my top 3. Xanthe is willing to sacrifice some people, pretty sure Deus let Val go on that rampage. Everyone has their own goals clearly, is it evil? yes but it isn't just black or white Ella is clearly putting up a front on some parts. By the way saying if Ella was a guy or only being forgiven because she's hot ( which is true) is not really valid imo. Val is a fan favorite and he has done worse, If Bernhardt had done everything Ella did ( he probably has done worse) people would defend him too you know why because those two are just cool as fuck. If Jake was not an idiot he would not be hated as much, but he allowed himself to be manipulated and people dislike spineless dumb characters. You cannot think with our worldviews most are willing to kill for " the greater good" we even see a preview of what happens when you aren't in the Elijah fight, look how it was used against him. After all of that I still do think Ella is evil as fuck, but I love her for that still.

Ikr, Valravn is cool and all. But bro he hunted down and butchered dozens of by his own admission, ''innocents'' just to eat their hearts.
I'm dissapointed the game doesn't give us the chance to call him out on his hipocrisy. His tirades of ''honour'' and ''courage'', meanwhile he needs to hunt and kill those way weaker than him.
I get he had to do it to reclaim his powers, but dude has NO right to give us flack if Brianna helps us in the first fight when he turned tail and ran whenever Nico showed up.

People love him, and he is a cool character and his design and backstory are top notch, but he's also a massive, arrogant, hypocrite.

 

[SquallofNight]

Eye, horn or mask which one is good?

Pick the Mask! (Jokes aside, the Horn is the best choice right now, since it gives you +10 Power. The eye can be used later, but it's not that useful)

 

[TheShelly]

Guys, I think we have missed the point here. If Ella isn't Le Evil, how are we supposed to give her dick correction therapy?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Guys, I think we have missed the point here. If Ella isn't Le Evil, how are we supposed to give her dick correction therapy?

Don't you worry. We're just about to enter phase two soon, with the HERO blaming. Using the same talking points aimed against Ella, but they all count against HERO. Jake got speed run through so it's a toss up on who's next after HERO. Probably Deryl being a bad friend.

 

[DannyLucifer]

Guys, I think we have missed the point here. If Ella isn't Le Evil, how are we supposed to give her dick correction therapy?

She tries to kill you multiple times what you mean? And she probably uses children for her twisted plan as well.

 

[DannyLucifer]

Don't you worry. We're just about to enter phase two soon, with the HERO blaming. Using the same talking points aimed against Ella, but they all count against HERO. Jake got speed run through so it's a toss up on who's next after HERO. Probably Deryl being a bad friend.

Damn will Deryl turnout to be bad... Damn I liked the guy, He's a total bro

 

[TheShelly]

She tries to kill you multiple times what you mean? And she probably uses children for her twisted plan as well.

The point I have so intellectually described before is this: If Ella is a good person, we have no reason to fuck the evil out of her with our Mommy 4th-blessed megadong. That meatstick had a god get on her knees to gobble it down, you know it can change someone's life and soul with enough application

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Damn will Deryl turnout to be bad... Damn I liked the guy, He's a total bro

You should've already seen that part. It starts during the Jake section. A lot of people hated Deryl for the stuff he did during the Jake Arc. Don't know if most people still do hate him, but it was a shit show.

 

[DannyLucifer]

You should've already seen that part. It starts during the Jake section. A lot of people hated Deryl for the stuff he did during the Jake Arc. Don't know if most people still do hate him, but it was a shit show.

But he got short-circuited via Jake and Ella (c*nt). Im at a point where Deryl is a clone so maybe he does something bad? Don't tell me though, but it would suck if he turns out to be bad. And I'm surprised that people think Deryl is bad when they arch their back for ella.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

But he got short-circuited via Jake and Ella (c*nt).

Yeah, that's the reason some of them hated Deryl back then lol. Because he tried to fight MC and was smug about it while under the influence. A few people legitimately didn't care that it was Jake and Ella's fault. They still considered him a bad friend. There's obviously a bit more context that added more fuel to it, but that comes later on in the game. So I won't spoil you on those bits.

 

[XeroZero000]

Is it possible for the MC to become a meat gundam or whatever that power rangers robot called, by temporarily devouring or fusing with his friends to create it?

So, they can form a meat robot using MC as base, and MC/they are synced as one, combining their powers.

This idea came to me when I remembered the last update about his mother.

Tho... I'd also like to see the MC and Ella fusing together, like Nuwa and Fuxi from Chinese mythology.