Klab040855
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From what i understood Ella stayed alive by putting a part of her body in the doll, the doll don't have all Ella memories only until the last "backup".
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About Syla being just a memory, I'm not so sure, she's too conscious to be simply a memory.
Nexum768
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Its unusual cause the ella that was resurrected wasnt the same ella that mc met (Memories up to date) its like a checkpoint of herself
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Nope, she's not dead yet, or whatever state she's in called.
There's an explicit statement by Valraven when addressing Syla about why she didn’t go to the cycle, or something like that—I don’t remember exactly what he said. And, he warned her that something bad would happen if she kept staying like this.
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It's definitely possible to revive Syla, assuming WW allows it to happen. Just like MC can recreate Bailey, when the times come. MC should be able to recreate Syla's body and put her memories in it. Especially since she has all of her own memories up in the Immaterial world and her original body is still "fresh". So at Level 5, he should be able to recreate her. Potentially even removing whatever flaw she had developed as well.
This would be a much easier process with Syla since she's connected to the 4th. Besides, once MC obtains Evolution or at least successfully combine his Memory and Body trait. He should have a smoother time compared to the process Ella had to set up for hers. Especially since Syla would just need to allow MC to port her memories to the new body. Everything else would sync up naturally overtime. Depending on the process, MC could potentially be his mom new dad lol. Especially if he used his own material along with her own.
Anyway, if anyone has read the Death Mage that Doesn't Want A Fourth Time. That's pretty much what Van did with his mother Darcia. Put her lingering soul in a new body. He made modifications to it too, so that her body would be much tougher to kill.
This would be a much easier process with Syla since she's connected to the 4th. Besides, once MC obtains Evolution or at least successfully combine his Memory and Body trait. He should have a smoother time compared to the process Ella had to set up for hers. Especially since Syla would just need to allow MC to port her memories to the new body. Everything else would sync up naturally overtime. Depending on the process, MC could potentially be his mom new dad lol. Especially if he used his own material along with her own.
Anyway, if anyone has read the Death Mage that Doesn't Want A Fourth Time. That's pretty much what Van did with his mother Darcia. Put her lingering soul in a new body. He made modifications to it too, so that her body would be much tougher to kill.
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That's kind of why I think that it won't be possible to revive Syla. I think the bad things Valravn warned about have happened. I base this on two things. Firstly, the way Syla has only been manifesting as the occasional whisper to the MC. It's like she's just a ghost. More of a ghost than she was, anyway. Secondly, in the final memory vault, the silat attendant points to an energy vortex that looked a lot like the Vestige of the althumans the MC met with Henri, and says "sister awaits". The Vestige was made of spirits that had lingered in the dream world too long and had their individual spirits decay, just like Valravn warns will happen to Syla.
So what I'm afraid is going to happen is that the MC is going to get a double dose of tragedy. That the next update will open with the MC, right off of reliving his mother's death, being told that she's effectively died again. That she finally hit a tipping point on her slowly decaying sense of self, and now is too incoherent to do more than whisper the occasional message to him.
I hope I'm wrong, though. That would just be very sad if I was right. Or at least that if I am right, that it's possible to repair Syla's spirit with help from Nyx or someone else with soul powers.
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Idk if lvl 5 could make syla a body with her old powers/prime powers at the bare minimum shes getting a human body? maybe not too sure
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He doesn't need to remake the entire thing. Her original body still exist in the material world. In a sense, he's just restoring her original body into its original shape. He likely has to modify some of it. But I don't see it being a tall task with the Memory and Body Trait at Level 5.
Will Syla be at the same level of power as she originally was at? Probably not. She could possibly drop to A Class or even down further. If MC waits until he gets Evolution, or until he has vastly more power, he could brute force it and revive her back in full. At her original state. But we don't know how much power that would require. Or if Syla can persist for that long. It could take years or even several decades for him to have the amount of power to pull it off.
Again, this is assuming WW allows it to happen. I'm of the opinion that it's possible, assuming plot doesn't get in the way of it. If WW doesn't want her to live, then she isn't going to, regardless of the possibility.
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Maybe I'm misremembering because it's been a while, but I'm 90% sure Alice doesn't just fall in love with you after you help her. In fact, I'm not even even sure she's fallen in love with you by the time she agrees to go out with you (talking about like vs love).
Maybe it's more ordinary and subtle than Liz's love story, but I think you're oversimplifying it when you say you just help her and she falls in love with you.
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Yeah she's initially very reluctant cause she doesn't think she'll have the time to work on the relationship. But not only is that never actually a factor afterwords, it's just kinda basic romance stuff. To me it's all just extra details to obscure the basic formula of "you help her, she falls in love".
Maybe we'll get something more with the mom storyline but nothing so far actually made me invested in the love aspect between the Mc and Alice. (Not just Alice, I feel the same way about literally everyone besides Liz and Ella)
I mean get why people like it. People who identify with the MC would probably want to be in a regular relationship as opposed to wild ones like Liz and Ella. But I'm all about the wild romantic gestures, twists and turns etc.
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Alice's views on relationships were shaped by what happened with her parents.
To have little time to date someone was just the excuse, in fact her real reason to be so hesitant is how inadequate she feels to experience love.
She is a mafia boss, a criminal, responsible for terrible things and with no intention to change that anytime soon, a fearsome fighter and cold blooded killer.
Her father was the same and he had to keep this hidden from her mother, when the secret was revealed the mother couldn't take it, the person her father is, the same she became, was "not made to be loved" or at least this is how she sees the situation.
So she was terrified of opening her heart to someone if it meant to be abandoned when eventually the person couldn't accept who Alice is, this is what made her fall for Mc, he is at the same time someone who can live in the dangerous world she was part of and accept what kind of person she is, and more important, continue at her side despite that.
To have little time to date someone was just the excuse, in fact her real reason to be so hesitant is how inadequate she feels to experience love.
She is a mafia boss, a criminal, responsible for terrible things and with no intention to change that anytime soon, a fearsome fighter and cold blooded killer.
Her father was the same and he had to keep this hidden from her mother, when the secret was revealed the mother couldn't take it, the person her father is, the same she became, was "not made to be loved" or at least this is how she sees the situation.
So she was terrified of opening her heart to someone if it meant to be abandoned when eventually the person couldn't accept who Alice is, this is what made her fall for Mc, he is at the same time someone who can live in the dangerous world she was part of and accept what kind of person she is, and more important, continue at her side despite that.
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Meanwhile, Jess fans are not even considered part of the conversation.
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What Jess can even offer the story anymore? Keep the MC fandom in Demi ausence?
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Jess can be what the Twins used to be. Non-super powered person that allows the MC to relate to the common folk, yet still has enough connections (through MC and Jake) to be relevant to the story.
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She'll probably be relevant when we finally manage to fight Jared without Charlie rescuing his ass. It's easy to imagine him going off on his own to try to make Jess take him back, now that he has superpowers and can "reclaim what's rightfully his". So Jess wouldn't have a huge impact on the story, but I don't think her presence is over. Even if it's not a role that has a ton of agency.
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Oh shit, was this all in the latest update? Memory of the latest update is pretty hazy rn.
But Alice can shoot up to second for me then behind Liz. Mainly cause it makes even more sense for her to be with Micheal after the revelation. And it doesn't feel as personal to the MC as Liz's story did. Her relationship hinged on you having superpowers. Liz's depended on you being hard-working and motivated.
Above Ella cause her relationship is kinda in a limbo rn.