KingAgamemnon
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You've triggered my pet peeve!Well, define god. Depending on your definition, the apostles, and to an extent even the chosen, might very much be gods.
Are they Omnipotent? Maybe not, but even in mythologies, gods rarely are. Even in modern religions, the omnipotence of its god is contradicted by certain things that exist within said religion.
Personally, I do consider the apostles to be gods, if only because they are worshipped by other monsters.
The idea of "God = superhuman" is a trope I find incredibly unsatisfying and boring. It degrades the idea of a divine creator who is omnipotent and omniscient into just some dude with magic powers. Even in mythology, a strong distinction is borne between the creator entity (Chaos, Ginnungagap, Atum), and their children/spawn that end up being colloquially referred to as gods.
The Apostles/Chosen are gods only in the sense that they are worshiped, but they do not have what would be considered a divine nature. At BEST, we can call them demigods if we wish to assume the whole One God -> Two Outer Twins -> Two Arbiter Triplets -> Six Apostle Twins hierarchy is true, but even then they would be an avatar of an avatar of an avatar of God.
And as a side tangent to my side tangent, I don't think the idea of God being illogical due to omnipotence being self-refuting is actually a strong case for Him not to exist. Humans naturally attempt to shape logic to best fit the natural world, so if something is illogical, what that actually ends up meaning is "cannot arise from the natural world". Which... yeah. God doesn't come from the natural, he is supernatural. He is above, beyond, and independent of the natural world. The idea that God is somehow subservient to human constructed logic is laughable.