VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[DecadentDesires]

Well tbf, going off of solely what we know, without any support from others, Zach could never beat her. The only thing we know for sure he can do is save and load, but there's simply no way he's fast enough to dodge her portals, regardless of how much he loads. Even if he dodges one, she can easily spam them, and also adjust her aim by seeing what he's meaning to dodge.

He also shouldn't be that physically strong. Unless he can stop time or something, I just don't see him beating her 1v1.

I don't see her beating him in 1v1. I think against Nico, he could save scum spam virtually forever. No one's going to watch a forever fight so it results in no contest and he would just keep his title like you do in the case of no contests.

He's probably fast enough to dodge her portals. He was fast enough to survive suspected encounters with an Avatar of The Lord of Dark and Indra at level four. If memory serves right, at level 4, you can use monster energy to survive without oxygen, food, water, sleep and last but certainly not least, to propel your body, Kira and Elijah are shown to be training this in order to stay stagnant and move in the air. This is before or after their last evolution. He can probably propel his body faster than she can propel her portals in a fashion similar to Ella running away from her portals.

His advantage being over Ella that he can probably predict their paths indefinitely, at least against Nico. So Nico just gonna have get over herself.

 

[DecadentDesires]

I think I recall his mom saying that it was good they focused on for simple survivability, for the first few evolutions there wouldn't be any notable difference but that the gap between purer spawn would stand out as they grew in power, they would need to work on both to compete with them. Working on it probably would have made the Jake fight a lot easier but there is no long term consequences in not focusing on it initially

Good to know. Thank you for the info. Forgot it.

 

[DecadentDesires]

Personally, I'd say her brother is more of a bum. Devana is at least willing to try out a variety of tactics, even if she hasn't learned how to do any of them well. Evander's only move is to charge straight at his enemy. And as we saw against the MC, that just isn't effective against a peer combatant. Someone as fast as he is can easily dodge him or knock him away. Evander only did damage when the MC was distracted, and he has no ability to provide distractions on his own. Even against Met, who willingly counter-charged and met Evander head-on, Evander wound up just as badly hurt as his opponent. Learn how to fight better, dude.

Excellent points, but I feel he at least doesn't skim on his training. He just currently lacks tactical versatility. That seems more easily solvable to me than not taking training seriously while being aware of multiple powers that would wipe the floor with you.

 

[DecadentDesires]

I think I recall his mom saying that it was good they focused on for simple survivability, for the first few evolutions there wouldn't be any notable difference but that the gap between purer spawn would stand out as they grew in power, they would need to work on both to compete with them. Working on it probably would have made the Jake fight a lot easier but there is no long term consequences in not focusing on it initially

I just recently replayed this VN a few months ago and I gotta say dealing with Jake appeared alot easier than I remembered my first playthrough. Dude really wasn't cut out for combat. A Memory Fixed MC would've wiped the floor with him.

 

[twicethefunn]

Man, I really hope there's a meaty epilogue or maybe even a sequel.

What are some things you guys would like to see happen that probably wont happen in the finale? Personally, I wanna see the entire monster world gang reach level 5 organically, no ham-fisting or rushing; or maybe even one of the big 3 going rogue.

 

[DecadentDesires]

If successful, I believe Ella would have become a proper Dual Spawn like the MC was, correcting her seemingly low percentage of Memory, and seeing as Memory comments on it I believe that the trial came from her.

I would disagree. I don't think a pure spawn can become a Dual Spawn. You're probably either born that way or aren't, She would've probably went further along the path as the Body's new chosen tho. I also believe she would've learned how to incarnate as well, but she seemed to have messed that up. Now all she can do, in my opinion, is align herself to someone with superior power potential than herself as a fallen Chosen such as Jake, MC, Alice, Micheal, Evander, or Devana,

If memory serves right, Memory prefers Dual Spawn, but doesn't mind Pure Spawn. If memory serves right, Body prefers Pure Spawn, but doesn't mind Dual Spawn. All other apostles would kill you immediately if I remember correctly.

Ella is now destined to be another Chosen's or superior than Chosen ally. She's lost self determination power due to not being able to incarnate like Syla. She probably never would have anyway.

She shows that she completely disregards any opinions or duties others place on her period. During her last evolution, she's shown telling either the 3rd or 4th or both, "No. I don't listen to you. You don't tell me what to do." What apostle would make her disobedient ass their Chosen?

They want the reverence that Indra or Valrav'n have towards their lords. The two most reverent are also seemingly the two most powerful Chosen at full power. Correlation or causation. I think both!

Like with any rational god, obedience means being given more power. Disobedience means less power. Ella just doesn't care and think she can align with or create something even more powerful than her progenitors. Maybe, she can! Maybe she can't! We'll see.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

As long as it isn't anyone I know, I have more important things to do as a superhuman than to stop sex trafficking and potential murder rings. But their should've been a Slurpee option lmao. Stealing that rich rapist fucker's identity would've improved MC's options tremendously back then.

WW wasn't really that focused on branching paths when he made that so i think he might get back to upgrading and expanding the early branching paths in the future updates especially since yeah stealing his identity could help mc a lot.

 

[DecadentDesires]

i mean even they themselves say that they don't know the full extent of how powers work in a different scene during that arc sooo. and they also say they don't even know how mcs powers work that they can only study him to figure out and even then then they don't know how plus he hasn't reached level 5 so they don't know the full extent of his powers. so they don't know how all powers work just the ones they have studied and even then they don't know the full extent of ALL powers or what they are or how they work plus they haven't studied ALL powers.

MC can't edit powers, or clone spam like Lucius. His powers are memory manipulation and shapeshifting. Anything that is too close to another power MC probably can't do. Anything that is too specific he can't probably do as well as someone whose specific power is that thing. Ability altering is another power so he can't do it. Clone creation is Lucius power, so he can't do it nearly as well.

 

[DecadentDesires]

WW wasn't really that focused on branching paths when he made that so i think he might get back to upgrading and expanding the early branching paths in the future updates especially since yeah stealing his identity could help mc a lot.

If we're lucky. I heard he wishes to move on to another work in the future so revamping past Arcs beyond the art seems antithetical to that, but perhaps he'll change his mind.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Man, I really hope there's a meaty epilogue or maybe even a sequel.

What are some things you guys would like to see happen that probably wont happen in the finale? Personally, I wanna see the entire monster world gang reach level 5 organically, no ham-fisting or rushing; or maybe even one of the big 3 going rogue.

I'd like to see a fight between the MC and Elijah. Elijah feels to me like he was designed for a fight scene. He either has a strong positive or strong negative opinion about the MC, making for good dialogue fodder if they come into conflict. His bouncing powers make him resistant to most but not all of the MC's attacks, meaning the MC can win but only if he gets creative. And Elijah was the direct inspiration for Bernhardt and Henri's conversation about superhumans who are "a different breed" being as strong at level 4 as the current generation is at level 5. If the MC beat Elijah at level 4, it would be a good way to foreshadow that the MC is on his way to being as strong as the big three by the end of the story.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

MC can't edit powers, or clone spam like Lucius. His powers are memory manipulation and shapeshifting. Anything that is too close to another power MC probably can't do. Anything that is too specific he can't do as well. Ability altering is another power so he can't do it. Clone creation is Lucius power, so he can't do it nearly as well.

i mean mc is only at level 3 so he might be able to do that stuff in the future plus the difference between 3 and 4 evolved people are major. and he can do specific stuff it just requires some help for now from deryl like when he brought the crystal girl back to life after he neck got exploded or something and he can change a human down to the atom so he can be super specific on humans just not on superhumans plus with superhumans its wayyy more complicated

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

You said the game never explained how power works and it's possible to change people's power by altering their brains and I'm telling you that it's not true. When Bramon talked about copying power he has explained how power works and it's impossible to change people's power just by altering their physical body. Which part do you not understand?

no i fucking didnt say CHANGE powers fucking learn how to read. but maybe your brain needs a recap.
like what happens if we change someone's brain to think that their powers are to control water when its really to control fire or changes their brain where they think they have no powers.
that's what i said

 

[jjtom000]

no i fucking didnt say CHANGE powers fucking learn how to read. but maybe your brain needs a recap.
like what happens if we change someone's brain to think that their powers are to control water when its really to control fire or changes their brain where they think they have no powers.
that's what i said

You literally said it can change people's abilities in your first reply. Your brain needs a recap more than me considering you didn't even remember what you said.
Also don't tell people to learn how to read with your broken English it's embarrassing.

heck maybe he can even force evolution if he tricks the brain if he gets enough skill and power to do that like he could do a lot with his power to change others abilities. like what happens if we change someone's brain to think that their powers are to control water when its really to control fire or changes their brain where they think they have no powers.

 

[DecadentDesires]

And wdym he still rapes and drugs girls if you choose non-NTR ? You can literally murder all of them if you choose.

I think he means if you choose to completely ignore Liz's side quest route. Swimmer boss dude just does what he always did. Not my business or concern.

 

[Darthybaka]

Guys, new to this thread. Can we play as a female protagonist?

 

[KingAgamemnon]

I would disagree. I don't think a pure spawn can become a Dual Spawn. You're probably either born that way or aren't, She would've probably went further along the path as the Body's new chosen tho. I also believe she would've learned how to incarnate as well, but she seemed to have messed that up. Now all she can do, in my opinion, is align herself to someone with superior power potential than herself as a fallen Chosen such as Jake, MC, Alice, Micheal, Evander, or Devana,

If memory serves right, Memory prefers Dual Spawn, but doesn't mind Pure Spawn. If memory serves right, Body prefers Pure Spawn, but doesn't mind Dual Spawn. All other apostles would kill you immediately if I remember correctly.

Ella is now destined to be another Chosen's or superior than Chosen ally. She's lost self determination power due to not being able to incarnate like Syla. She probably never would have anyway.

She shows that she completely disregards any opinions or duties others place on her period. During her last evolution, she's shown telling either the 3rd or 4th or both, "No. I don't listen to you. You don't tell me what to do." What apostle would make her disobedient ass their Chosen?

They want the reverence that Indra or Valrav'n have towards their lords. The two most reverent are also seemingly the two most powerful Chosen at full power. Correlation or causation. I think both!

Like with any rational god, obedience means being given more power. Disobedience means less power. Ella just doesn't care and think she can align with or create something even more powerful than her progenitors. Maybe, she can! Maybe she can't! We'll see.

Yes, but its important to note that I asserted this trial came directly from the Apostles, which I believe would have the ability to at least slightly manipulate the potential of their spawn, considering their powers come from them in the first place. Ella was already presently showing incredible potential with Body and was otherwise an incredible candidate for Memory's plans, hence why Memory might have been willing to leave a finger on the scale so to speak.

Memory clearly seems to be playing the long game, and you can see that Memory, despite Ella's failure, doesn't seem to have been as agitated as you would think from someone who got set back. She says "good for breeding", as though she doesn't really care about Ella's disobedience and more so about the potential avenues that she can still take advantage of through her. I also strongly disbelieve that Ella is capable of outwitting Memory. I do believe she isn't as willing to be blindly subservient to her, but I feel it remains within the bounds of Memory's plans for her.

 

[DecadentDesires]

I personally don't hate Ella, quite the opposite really, i mean, she is an asshole but a very interesting one, but man, I seriously hope we come to see her truly scared/out her cool on the main story, as I said, I love her but see characters that are as secure of themselves out their terrain is one of those things I just need to see at least once.

There is of course the 'Too strong, too soon ending', on which the Lord of Dark(7th Apostle) appear out of nowhere, no-diffs Memory Apostle and make Ella pretty much fall in desperation, but that's a Dead End, I need to see it on main story.

Talking about that, i wouldn't let pass the opportunity to wank my man Zack, remember he managed to take alive all his squad from an encounter with the Lord of Dark on the very same level in which Ella just stand there mumbling in horror.

In the main story, she showed a decent amount of fear when Malik destroyed all of the Strength Eaters and appeared in front of her. I also think Indra and Full Power Valrav'n would bring the fear out of her. Valrav'n wants her badly and if he gets free, he might as well had promise to track her down when he's back to full power.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Guys, new to this thread. Can we play as a female protagonist?

No, but the MC can change into a woman for select scenes of the game, whether for sex or to disguise himself.

 

[DecadentDesires]

Yes, but its important to note that I asserted this trial came directly from the Apostles, which I believe would have the ability to at least slightly manipulate the potential of their spawn, considering their powers come from them in the first place. Ella was already presently showing incredible potential with Body and was otherwise an incredible candidate for Memory's plans, hence why Memory might have been willing to leave a finger on the scale so to speak.

Memory clearly seems to be playing the long game, and you can see that Memory, despite Ella's failure, doesn't seem to have been as agitated as you would think from someone who got set back. She says "good for breeding", as though she doesn't really care about Ella's disobedience and more so about the potential avenues that she can still take advantage of through her. I also strongly disbelieve that Ella is capable of outwitting Memory. I do believe she isn't as willing to be blindly subservient to her, but I feel it remains within the bounds of Memory's plans for her.

I hear what you're saying. I just don't remember there having had ever been a problem proposed that the 3rd or 4th have a problem with Ella's capabilities as a pure spawn, her not being a Dual Spawn or that they wanted to change that. The incomplete trial you reference seems to be a trial for the Body, not Memory so she can achieve her scouter(DBZ) eyes that have been shown to see things no one else have been shown to see such as Laurie's level, monster power, and people's compatibility with specific monster traits. I'm not sure if it was suggested that she was to get anything from Memory, but she's seemed to be getting as a reward all she was gonna get from me from the trial.

She isn't Memory's Chosen unlike Syla. She's Body Chosen. We have no idea how annoyed he is with her because I believe, he's never even be shown to communicate in front of us the audience. Body and Ella probably have a torn relationship because he seemingly raped her during her turning at like 13 or 14. Technically, so does Memory do to MC if she was the one that caught you like me in Bill's Park.

You said, "You also strongly disbelieve that Ella is capable of outwitting Memory." The use of "also" seems to suggest that I believe that as well. I don't know. I don't know memory well so maybe, she can outwit her. We'll see. Memory likely does still find Ella to be useful for some purpose until and if her disobedience proves to more cumbersome than her utility.

 

[DecadentDesires]

No, but the MC can change into a woman for select scenes of the game, whether for sex or to disguise himself.

It would be a decent addition to the game if enough people desired it, but I doubt that will ever be case enough to be worth the effort in writing and art.