VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[resgar]

Does Liz still has connection with monsterworld-sea? Can she travel free back and forth?
How much potential mass capacity Liz has, can she transport giant massive targets if their are placed in water?
How much dimensional boundaries affects her? Can she breach dimensions, like Nico, or she can just travel unaffected? Or ever?
Has she some kind 'water'-sense to travel? or she need to see/be in destination first to travel?

Liz is bound to water, but has she some advantages above Nico capabilities? Power-level, obviously, aside. Link to Amber. Force-fields, possible fly, after evolution, like monsters who harassed Malik in previous chapters of assaulting Ellas dimension?

Considering that twins were forcefully and traumatic merged physically, they are currently in unnatural, crippled state. They are crammed in one body, and other body is missing. (Liz's head, other parts in lab) Also, it was mentioned several times in story, that evolution is fully restoring physical body. MC, Danica, Cole, etc.

So, i think, twins will be separated naturally again with the evolution. But their bond will evolve too to the level that they will be aware of each other position with some precise, and possibly have telepathic link. With ability to swap at will, Mb even with ability sharing senses literally. And, of course, as long as one alive other is, essentially, immortal. Just returning to each other as it is currently.

And, of course, such evolved bond was Tanos objective, and would not possible without his abilities and operation on twins, and, i guess, such bond would be be feature itself, giving Foxglove twins advantage over Moon twins. Even if Moon twins would have more power at the encounter moment.

Can't wait evolution of Foxglove sisters. Can't wait Nico and Nyx reaction and interactions with them. Can't wait Foxglove vs Moon somewhat equal encounters.

Aaah... so much questions and expectations, next upd can't come soon enough...

 

[SatanaelChaos]

Does Liz still has connection with monsterworld-sea? Can she travel free back and forth?
How much potential mass capacity Liz has, can she transport giant massive targets if their are placed in water?
How much dimensional boundaries affects her? Can she breach dimensions, like Nico, or she can just travel unaffected? Or ever?
Has she some kind 'water'-sense to travel? or she need to see/be in destination first to travel?

If she could travel back and forth between earth and the monster world, she would have just teleported everyone back to earth immediately. There's obviously a limit to the range, but as far as we know her monster progenitors could travel to any body of water they have been in, so maybe as she evolves she can connect to the monster world sea.

 

[OnlineRando]

I think at this point he is not that vulnerable to it as he was in the beginning if he can tank a normal lightning bolt quite easily and continue on (the green one seemed a lot tougher on him though). But he sure as fuck doesn't like it, he made that clear in the monster world.

I think his regeneration abilities have just improved enough to withstand electricity to some degree, due to his tail and superior monster power and control. The weakness itself should be either the same or greater than before.

 

[OnlineRando]

If she could travel back and forth between earth and the monster world, she would have just teleported everyone back to earth immediately. There's obviously a limit to the range, but as far as we know her monster progenitors could travel to any body of water they have been in, so maybe as she evolves she can connect to the monster world sea.

Assuming she can only teleport to bodies of water she can either see currently or has seen in the past, she might not have been able to teleport them back to Earth, since she hasn't been there since getting her powers. She got her powers in Hex's dimension, which was already collapsing as they left it.

 

[Zekethor2]

Some interesting points from WW's livestream where he ranked the characters' abilities in a tier list:

1. Charlie
   WW mentioned that Charlie’s power is super OP. If anyone has a better understanding of how exactly her ability works, please explain it wasn't fully detailed during the stream, but his emphasis suggests it might be stronger than we initially thought.
2. Henri
   According to WW, Henri's abilities could potentially allow him to replicate or even possess the powers of almost anyone on the list. However, there's a catch: he mentioned that Henri's powers come at a “price.” He didn’t clarify what that price is, but it was enough to make him hesitate when ranking Henri. WW seemed genuinely torn about placing Henri at the top, and in the end, he didn’t likely because of that mysterious drawback.
3. Time Manipulation
   WW was very clear that, among all the abilities discussed, time-related powers would be the most broken (or “overpowered”) if used to their full potential. So far in the story, time abilities have mostly been shown through future prediction (like what we’ve seen) or through the event caused by Deus at the Dead End. This sets the stage for some massive revelations.
4. Lochan (a.k.a. DEUS)
   Now, here’s the most intriguing part. WW didn’t hold back when discussing Henri’s powers, but when it came to Lochan, he completely downplayed him. He placed him in the “Mediocre” tier, allegedly because “his ability hasn’t been revealed yet.” That evasiveness suggests that Lochan’s true power and especially the full extent of Deus’s role might be one of the biggest secrets in the game. He was the only character on the list WW seemed to deliberately avoid explaining. That speaks volumes.
5. Claudia
   WW also mentioned Claudia and compared her potential to something like “Authority”, saying that “she’ll be able to do whatever she wants.” From what we know so far, she’s supposed to be the Chosen of Time, and considering how much WW emphasized that time powers are the most overpowered, this could explain a lot about her future importance.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

1. Lochan (a.k.a. DEUS)
   Now, here’s the most intriguing part. WW didn’t hold back when discussing Henri’s powers, but when it came to Lochan, he completely downplayed him. He placed him in the “Mediocre” tier, allegedly because “his ability hasn’t been revealed yet.” That evasiveness suggests that Lochan’s true power and especially the full extent of Deus’s role might be one of the biggest secrets in the game. He was the only character on the list WW seemed to deliberately avoid explaining. That speaks volumes.

That's not quite correct. He said Deus powers weren't actually that good. From the perspective of someone else using it. Not because his ability hasn't been revealed. And Deus actually isn't the only character that WW wanted to avoid explaining. Or the only power, I should say. He also didn't want to explain Aglaecwif monster magic, which he said was pretty op and had at the top of the list. Before lower it because average people wouldn't be able to use it like she does. But they would still be op.

 

[johndqdo]

You guys have a link for the lives?

 

[DrakoGhoul]

You guys have a link for the lives?

 

[Zekethor2]

That's not quite correct. He said Deus powers weren't actually that good. From the perspective of someone else using it. Not because his ability hasn't been revealed. And Deus actually isn't the only character that WW wanted to avoid explaining. Or the only power, I should say. He also didn't want to explain Aglaecwif monster magic, which he said was pretty op and had at the top of the list. Before lower it because average people wouldn't be able to use it like she does. But they would still be op.

Ah, thank you for explaining it better. English isn’t my first language. Hmm, interesting, so in both cases, the abilities aren’t inherently overpowered like the first ones on the list, but the users managed to find ways to make them so. That’s even better than just raw power. Thanks again for clarifying!

 

[Deleted member 9232069]

Some interesting points from WW's livestream where he ranked the characters' abilities in a tier list:

1. Charlie
   WW mentioned that Charlie’s power is super OP. If anyone has a better understanding of how exactly her ability works, please explain it wasn't fully detailed during the stream, but his emphasis suggests it might be stronger than we initially thought.
2. Henri
   According to WW, Henri's abilities could potentially allow him to replicate or even possess the powers of almost anyone on the list. However, there's a catch: he mentioned that Henri's powers come at a “price.” He didn’t clarify what that price is, but it was enough to make him hesitate when ranking Henri. WW seemed genuinely torn about placing Henri at the top, and in the end, he didn’t likely because of that mysterious drawback.
3. Time Manipulation
   WW was very clear that, among all the abilities discussed, time-related powers would be the most broken (or “overpowered”) if used to their full potential. So far in the story, time abilities have mostly been shown through future prediction (like what we’ve seen) or through the event caused by Deus at the Dead End. This sets the stage for some massive revelations.
4. Lochan (a.k.a. DEUS)
   Now, here’s the most intriguing part. WW didn’t hold back when discussing Henri’s powers, but when it came to Lochan, he completely downplayed him. He placed him in the “Mediocre” tier, allegedly because “his ability hasn’t been revealed yet.” That evasiveness suggests that Lochan’s true power and especially the full extent of Deus’s role might be one of the biggest secrets in the game. He was the only character on the list WW seemed to deliberately avoid explaining. That speaks volumes.
5. Claudia
   WW also mentioned Claudia and compared her potential to something like “Authority”, saying that “she’ll be able to do whatever she wants.” From what we know so far, she’s supposed to be the Chosen of Time, and considering how much WW emphasized that time powers are the most overpowered, this could explain a lot about her future importance.

Deus is just the spawn of the outer twins, gods of another universe entirely, and MC's 1% monster dna actually comes from gods from another universe. Thats my headcannon.

 

[OnlyNeverNow]

I just ended the actualization s and never triggered a single one of the ella doll scenes on the monster world feels bad

Yeah, the game kinda baits you by letting you get the first ella doll scene regardless of if you say you hate Big Ella or not, but then locks all the following scenes, even if they're not sexual ones like doll Ella wishing you a happy birthday.


IMO, a rare misstep from WW. I was really looking forward to Doll Ella winning MC over during their months being forced to work together, but alas.

 

[SatanaelChaos]

Some interesting points from WW's livestream where he ranked the characters' abilities in a tier list:

1. Charlie
   WW mentioned that Charlie’s power is super OP. If anyone has a better understanding of how exactly her ability works, please explain it wasn't fully detailed during the stream, but his emphasis suggests it might be stronger than we initially thought.
2. Henri
   According to WW, Henri's abilities could potentially allow him to replicate or even possess the powers of almost anyone on the list. However, there's a catch: he mentioned that Henri's powers come at a “price.” He didn’t clarify what that price is, but it was enough to make him hesitate when ranking Henri. WW seemed genuinely torn about placing Henri at the top, and in the end, he didn’t likely because of that mysterious drawback.
3. Time Manipulation
   WW was very clear that, among all the abilities discussed, time-related powers would be the most broken (or “overpowered”) if used to their full potential. So far in the story, time abilities have mostly been shown through future prediction (like what we’ve seen) or through the event caused by Deus at the Dead End. This sets the stage for some massive revelations.
4. Lochan (a.k.a. DEUS)
   Now, here’s the most intriguing part. WW didn’t hold back when discussing Henri’s powers, but when it came to Lochan, he completely downplayed him. He placed him in the “Mediocre” tier, allegedly because “his ability hasn’t been revealed yet.” That evasiveness suggests that Lochan’s true power and especially the full extent of Deus’s role might be one of the biggest secrets in the game. He was the only character on the list WW seemed to deliberately avoid explaining. That speaks volumes.
5. Claudia
   WW also mentioned Claudia and compared her potential to something like “Authority”, saying that “she’ll be able to do whatever she wants.” From what we know so far, she’s supposed to be the Chosen of Time, and considering how much WW emphasized that time powers are the most overpowered, this could explain a lot about her future importance.

WW said that the reason Charlie is super good isn't actually because of her Geas or vows that we know about, Its something else that puts her at the top.

WW was just talking about the average joe using time powers. and he said that no matter who you are, Your gonna be overpowered with the pure time trait or the time stop ability. Zack however ranks pretty low because I guess he doesn't have the pure time trait.

The bit about Claudia being at the top with Jake was just a joke from WW. he says previously in the stream he wont rank her because we haven't seen her do anything yet. Its the same as Tess and Brianna being at the top.

 

[SatanaelChaos]

That's not quite correct. He said Deus powers weren't actually that good. From the perspective of someone else using it. Not because his ability hasn't been revealed. And Deus actually isn't the only character that WW wanted to avoid explaining. Or the only power, I should say. He also didn't want to explain Aglaecwif monster magic, which he said was pretty op and had at the top of the list. Before lower it because average people wouldn't be able to use it like she does. But they would still be op.

Im pretty sure WW is implying that Dues' powers just aren't good in general. He says they'd be useless for the average person and he sort of implies that the beams Dues used to beat the eye has nothing to do with his powers.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Im pretty sure WW is implying that Dues' powers just aren't good in general. He says they'd be useless for the average person and he sort of implies that the beams Dues used to beat the eye has nothing to do with his powers.

I know? I was there.

 

[Deleted member 9232069]

You know, I think the 12 apostles powers should represent the properties that make up the universe we all live in, like if we take them all we should be able to create our universe, with all its physics, properties and all that. And I dont like to think they should be this physical gods type characters who live in some other realm, and who govern or control the various aspects they are named after. They should be the very thing they are called, and should be one with the universe, like they should be omnipresent, and if you 'destroy' even one of them, the universe could either fall apart and end, or it would look a whole lot different and alot less 'complete' or complex. And I think whatever inter universal war the storys hinting at, with the outer gods invading our universe and breaking the 6 arbiters into the 12 apostles, I think that has influenced our universe alot too, maybe the outer gods imposed alot of their universe's properties and concepts into our universe, and the last 6 apostles, from darkness to creation, are heavily influenced or modified by the outer gods. Iirc, tanos talked about how if two superhumans are twins, and they are like, idk infected at the same time, by twin apostles, their powers are amplified way further, especially if they in close proximity or something.

 

[dudewhybro123]

1. Claudia
   WW also mentioned Claudia and compared her potential to something like “Authority”, saying that “she’ll be able to do whatever she wants.”

WW was fucking with us when he said this. He was talking about how her tits and looks would allow this to happen, so he wasn't actually serious. Just like when he put binoculars at Really Fuckin Super Good (the highest ranking), Same with Dexter for his metal hand, and Tess for her looks. (yes, WW actually put those at the highest tier of the ranking)

 

[Zekethor2]

Deus is just the spawn of the outer twins, gods of another universe entirely, and MC's 1% monster dna actually comes from gods from another universe. Thats my headcannon.

My theory about him is a bit different. We already have several clues regarding his powers and what he might actually be:

1. He wears a mask to shield himself from the terrors of the universe...
2. He suffers from horrifying nightmares
3. He can predict the future with exceptional accuracy
4. He is considered “abnormal” or “wrong” by both the Eye and Valravn
5. He managed to strike a specific temporal point before the Eye had become immortal
6. His name would literally mean “the eye of God”
7. He appeared in the memory lineage of time, but told the MC that “he was mistaken, and confusing him with something he is not”

To me, all of this strongly suggests that Lochan Deus has a deep, intrinsic connection to time. He probably has clear visions of possible timelines and does everything in his power to ensure that *one specific* timeline comes to pass. That’s why he sometimes takes “questionable” actions, like returning Valravn’s heart or allowing Ella to infiltrate. It’s all part of his way of shaping the future he believes *must* happen.

On top of that, his cosmic awareness, his ability to observe and even interact with the dream world, also hints at some kind of spatial dimension to his abilities.

When Deus tells the MC during a dead end that “this wasn’t foreseen” and that the fault lies with the MC (or the player), it seems to reflect that his preferred timeline has slipped out of control, something that doesn’t happen if we make the “correct” choices. So here are my thoughts:

My theory: Deus might have been chosen or forced to become the almost literal "eyes" of the Apostle of Time or perhaps the Arbiter of Infinity. He wouldn’t be a spawn or a regular chosen one, but rather a unique vessel burdened with a trait not by his own will, but by imposition. That would explain why he’s labeled “wrong” by the Eye. He’s not a superhuman or a monster, he’s something entirely singular. His connection to time, his powers, his perception, the nightmares, and even the need for his visor to keep control, it would all align.

As for Lochan Deus’s ability itself... If his power grants limited access to specific points in time and space, places where he himself has been, or not, it would technically be a real limitation. Still, it would make his ability extremely powerful. So why would WW rank it as *mediocre*?

Here’s the idea: during the fight, Deus seemed to struggle to land attacks on the MC, attacks that didn’t seem to come from any visible source. That suggests his ability requires surgical precision, meaning he has to know the exact coordinates in time and space where his target will be. That’s something no one but him could ever manage. In other words, only Lochan , with his vision and understanding, could truly make use of it, anyone else would find it worthless. That explains why it’s considered “mediocre” by design, even though *he* figured out how to weaponize it with terrifying efficiency.

 

[Zekethor2]

You know, I think the 12 apostles powers should represent the properties that make up the universe we all live in, like if we take them all we should be able to create our universe, with all its physics, properties and all that. And I dont like to think they should be this physical gods type characters who live in some other realm, and who govern or control the various aspects they are named after. They should be the very thing they are called, and should be one with the universe, like they should be omnipresent, and if you 'destroy' even one of them, the universe could either fall apart and end, or it would look a whole lot different and alot less 'complete' or complex. And I think whatever inter universal war the storys hinting at, with the outer gods invading our universe and breaking the 6 arbiters into the 12 apostles, I think that has influenced our universe alot too, maybe the outer gods imposed alot of their universe's properties and concepts into our universe, and the last 6 apostles, from darkness to creation, are heavily influenced or modified by the outer gods. Iirc, tanos talked about how if two superhumans are twins, and they are like, idk infected at the same time, by twin apostles, their powers are amplified way further, especially if they in close proximity or something.

I’d genuinely like to know if there’s any part of the game that mentions the existence of gods beyond this universe, because honestly, while I was playing, I never really paid attention to that.

 

[Zekethor2]

WW was fucking with us when he said this. He was talking about how her tits and looks would allow this to happen, so he wasn't actually serious. Just like when he put binoculars at Really Fuckin Super Good (the highest ranking), Same with Dexter for his metal hand, and Tess for her looks. (yes, WW actually put those at the highest tier of the ranking)

Oh really? I noticed he joked in several of them but I thought he was being slightly serious in Claudia... ok shame

 

[KingAgamemnon]

I’d genuinely like to know if there’s any part of the game that mentions the existence of gods beyond this universe, because honestly, while I was playing, I never really paid attention to that.

I believe during one of the times when you speak with Ella, you can talk about gods, and she'll mention other ones.