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WW is considering breaking up v1.0 into smaller updates, since he expects it to take six months to complete, but he's concerned that people that only play for sex might be unhappy with that, since he says there's only two possible spots available for sex scenes and most of the sex scene budget is being given to the reworked beginning segment.
 
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KingAgamemnon said:
WW is considering breaking up v1.0 into smaller updates, since he expects it to take six months to complete, but he's concerned that people that only play for sex might be unhappy with that, since he says there's only two possible spots available for sex scenes and most of the sex scene budget is being given to the reworked beginning segment.
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Being serious here: Are there anyone who play this game only for the sex?
 
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Alright, results are in. Read 'em and weep.

Futa - 38

Trap - 16

Milking - 30

Portal Sex - 138

Flying Sex - 9

Tentacle Sex - 9

Clone Sex - 25

NTR - 17

Looks like Portal Sex wins, good work, we'll take a crack at that next update.

Anyway, that's it, see ya.
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Portal Sex,My Brothers you know what this means
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Makes sense, given the established difficulty with manipulating other people's biologies, much less other superhumans.
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I disagree, it isn't a very ''established'' difficulty in my opinion. Personaly I feel like it's a hard nerf to the Mc's powers. His whole thing is that due to his memory based powers, he doesn't have to learn biology like a scientist would. It's what makes Ella praise his potential multiple times.

If with a single touch he can replicate a regular human's body perfectly then why is healing injuries such a dramatic feat ? With superhumans I can understand, although, as a currently uncommonly powerful level 3, his powers should dwarf a level one's so much that I think he should be able to heal or manipulate their bodies.

Ella at level 5 was able to cause a extreme transformation in Duncan by shapeshifting and transforming his body to a ridiculous degree, Duncan is a level 3. That's also a difference of two levels, so why should the Mc, as a fucking level 3, not only be unable to heal a level 1, but also barely heal a regular human ?
It is such a huge plot point to me, the fact that his potential lies in the harmony beetwen the two powers in him, Body and Memory. .

Personaly I'm not happy with retcons so late in a story, it's a bit silly. I don't want to criticize WW since I really love this game, but retcons this late are a bad sign.
Like others said, WW likely felt like he wrote himself into a corner by making the Mc's healing be too versatile or whatever, but trowing in a retcon is a cheap move. This things need to be set in stone in the beginning of the game. Not altered this late in the story, and certainly not with something as major as your main characters power sets
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And it is a retcon, the Mc was able to manipulate human's biology to a extreme degree as shown in the Prison arc, he was also able to ( although admitedly a bit messily ), save Laurie's life by re-aranging her exploded neck, Laurie was a level 2, and the Mc had just gotten to level 3, yet his powers of shapeshifting saved her life, even though they were just one level apart ( I know that feat had some variable, such as Deryl's short assistance and the fact that he didn't heal her perfectly, but the point still stands, he, with just one level of difference, saved a level 2's life with his healing powers). And also he gave Jordan a fully working, big dick.
Case closed, this is a retcon, fuck retcons.
 
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Jonathan Y said:
I disagree, it isn't a very ''established'' difficulty in my opinion. Personaly I feel like it's a hard nerf to the Mc's powers. His whole thing is that due to his memory based powers, he doesn't have to learn biology like a scientist would. It's what makes Ella praise his potential multiple times.

If with a single touch he can replicate a regular human's body perfectly then why is healing injuries such a dramatic feat ? With superhumans I can understand, although, as a currently uncommonly powerful level 3, his powers should dwarf a level one's so much that I think he should be able to heal or manipulate their bodies.

Ella at level 5 was able to cause a extreme transformation in Duncan by shapeshifting and transforming his body to a ridiculous degree, Duncan is a level 3. That's also a difference of two levels, so why should the Mc, as a fucking level 3, not only be unable to heal a level 1, but also barely heal a regular human ?
It is such a huge plot point to me, the fact that his potential lies in the harmony beetwen the two powers in him, Body and Memory. .

Personaly I'm not happy with retcons so late in a story, it's a bit silly. I don't want to criticize WW since I really love this game, but retcons this late are a bad sign.
Like others said, WW likely felt like he wrote himself into a corner by making the Mc's healing be too versatile or whatever, but trowing in a retcon is a cheap move. This things need to be set in stone in the beginning of the game. Not altered this late in the story, and certainly not with something as major as your main characters power sets
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And it is a retcon, the Mc was able to manipulate human's biology to a extreme degree as shown in the Prison arc, he was also able to ( although admitedly a bit messily ), save Laurie's life by re-aranging her exploded neck, Laurie was a level 2, and the Mc had just gotten to level 3, yet his powers of shapeshifting saved her life, even though they were just one level apart ( I know that feat had some variable, such as Deryl's short assistance and the fact that he didn't heal her perfectly, but the point still stands, he, with just one level of difference, saved a level 2's life with his healing powers). And also he gave Jordan a fully working, big dick.
Case closed, this is a retcon, fuck retcons.
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MC healing Laurie was a mixture of several things: the first being that this was him not shapeshifting the wound closed, but specifically commanding the body to not change, the ability Ella displayed earlier, and it was Deryl that was repairing the damage done by the explosion with his Elixir. Not to mention he was still in his evolution trance, and Laurie has been noted as someone with (relatively) low power, despite the strength of her ability in a vacuum.

And speaking of Ella, it's been repeatedly mentioned that MC has given up extreme competency with the Body trait in exchange for the versatility offered by being split with the Memory trait. MC will never be as good at manipulating the body as Ella will, even as a Level 5. MC mentions that anything as complex or smaller than the nervous system is completely beyond him. He can only manipulate those sorts of things when shifting between different forms because of the Memory trait. Ella was modifying her own brain and body to suit her purposes as early as Level 1/2, something MC cannot do without incorporating some existing biology into himself like with the monster parts Xanthe gives him. Even if that wasn't the case, the difference in power between current MC and someone like Ella is something like 29,000 power, which is an order of magnitude difference.

I get not liking it because it's kind of a retcon, but at the same time we've been told that the scope of the game expanded quite dramatically since the beginning of the game, and WW didn't finish writing the story until after the Jake arc was finished, so he likely hadn't considered this a major issue. Besides come v1.0, these issues might be resolved, so while its inconsistent now, it might not be for much longer.
 
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MC healing Laurie was a mixture of several things: the first being that this was him not shapeshifting the wound closed, but specifically commanding the body to not change, the ability Ella displayed earlier, and it was Deryl that was repairing the damage done by the explosion with his Elixir. Not to mention he was still in his evolution trance, and Laurie has been noted as someone with (relatively) low power, despite the strength of her ability in a vacuum.

And speaking of Ella, it's been repeatedly mentioned that MC has given up extreme competency with the Body trait in exchange for the versatility offered by being split with the Memory trait. MC will never be as good at manipulating the body as Ella will, even as a Level 5. MC mentions that anything as complex or smaller than the nervous system is completely beyond him. He can only manipulate those sorts of things when shifting between different forms because of the Memory trait. Ella was modifying her own brain and body to suit her purposes as early as Level 1/2, something MC cannot do without incorporating some existing biology into himself like with the monster parts Xanthe gives him. Even if that wasn't the case, the difference in power between current MC and someone like Ella is something like 29,000 power, which is an order of magnitude difference.

I get not liking it because it's kind of a retcon, but at the same time we've been told that the scope of the game expanded quite dramatically since the beginning of the game, and WW didn't finish writing the story until after the Jake arc was finished, so he likely hadn't considered this a major issue. Besides come v1.0, these issues might be resolved, so while its inconsistent now, it might not be for much longer.
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''Mc will never be as good at manipulating the body as Ella will'', oooh hard disagree. Sorry but I really don't remember any information that sets this in stone, at all.
And I also don't remember where it was stated what role Deryl played in healing Laurie, just that his elixir provided support. And also it was never stated that Laurie was a low power level 2, she considers herself as average, and that does check out, she did lose to Alice, but Alice is being noted as a unusually powerful level 1 back then. So I don't think the Mc healing Laurie could have been so easily justified as just Laurie being weak and he had Deryl's assistance ( since I really don't remeber anything said about how much or how little Deryl helped ).

I am re-reading the game for like the seventh time, and if it's not too much bother, could you tell me where it's stated that the Mc's split trait is such a handicap ? I do remember reading some things, but to say he will '' never be as good as manipulating Body as Ella even at level 5 '' is a huge surprise to me.

Even back in the earliest parts of the game, in the '' Too Strong, Too Soon '' dead end, Ella is surprised and impressed that the Mc could, at a measly level 1, display such powerful skills in relativity to his level, such as the Jellyfish poison tentacles, the rhino bone horn and so on. This crazy transformations, presumably ones Ella could not have done at the same level, since it is noted she had to go to many trials to research biology, as we see during the investigation into her past school life, she had to experiment and consult a teacher and try on who knows how many transformations. Meanwhile one touch is all it takes for the Mc.
She literaly states she had to tinker with her body and experiment for God knows how long, meanwhile, the Mc doesn't have to research biology, he doesn't have to cut open the bodies of others like some Dr Frankenstein, he doesn't have to go to the lengths Ella did, because he can instantly receive said information with a single touch. That's what makes him close to Ella's level of body manipulation without being a research genius like she is.

In another Dead End, where she kills ( although likely decapitated you ) when you tell her of your Jellyfish poison, she instantly realizes that using that kind of ability could only be done if the Mc had the memory trait, and to me it always seemed like she instantly figured it out because using that kind of ability is something not even she could have done at that early of a level, aka a indication, his Memory traits allow him to be just as good if not better at Body manipulation.

That was always how I saw things, Ella is ''imperfect'', she says so herself, because she doesn't have the split traits. But the split traits should be a gateway into the Mc surpassing her in all aspects. It makes no sense otherwise. It's literaly a big lore point. The Mc being able to consume and absorb memories, genetic coding, etc.

Damn sorry for the wall of text, sheesh.
 
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Jonathan Y said:
''Mc will never be as good at manipulating the body as Ella will'', oooh hard disagree. Sorry but I really don't remember any information that sets this in stone, at all.
And I also don't remember where it was stated what role Deryl played in healing Laurie, just that his elixir provided support. And also it was never stated that Laurie was a low power level 2, she considers herself as average, and that does check out, she did lose to Alice, but Alice is being noted as a unusually powerful level 1 back then. So I don't think the Mc healing Laurie could have been so easily justified as just Laurie being weak and he had Deryl's assistance ( since I really don't remeber anything said about how much or how little Deryl helped ).

I am re-reading the game for like the seventh time, and if it's not too much bother, could you tell me where it's stated that the Mc's split trait is such a handicap ? I do remember reading some things, but to say he will '' never be as good as manipulating Body as Ella even at level 5 '' is a huge surprise to me.

Even back in the earliest parts of the game, in the '' Too Strong, Too Soon '' dead end, Ella is surprised and impressed that the Mc could, at a measly level 1, display such powerful skills in relativity to his level, such as the Jellyfish poison tentacles, the rhino bone horn and so on. This crazy transformations, presumably ones Ella could not have done at the same level, since it is noted she had to go to many trials to research biology, as we see during the investigation into her past school life, she had to experiment and consult a teacher and try on who knows how many transformations. Meanwhile one touch is all it takes for the Mc.
She literaly states she had to tinker with her body and experiment for God knows how long, meanwhile, the Mc doesn't have to research biology, he doesn't have to cut open the bodies of others like some Dr Frankenstein, he doesn't have to go to the lengths Ella did, because he can instantly receive said information with a single touch. That's what makes him close to Ella's level of body manipulation without being a research genius like she is.

In another Dead End, where she kills ( although likely decapitated you ) when you tell her of your Jellyfish poison, she instantly realizes that using that kind of ability could only be done if the Mc had the memory trait, and to me it always seemed like she instantly figured it out because using that kind of ability is something not even she could have done at that early of a level, aka a indication, his Memory traits allow him to be just as good if not better at Body manipulation.

That was always how I saw things, Ella is ''imperfect'', she says so herself, because she doesn't have the split traits. But the split traits should be a gateway into the Mc surpassing her in all aspects. It makes no sense otherwise. It's literaly a big lore point. The Mc being able to consume and absorb memories, genetic coding, etc.

Damn sorry for the wall of text, sheesh.
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So for the first part, it was told to us by Syla, who talks about how Apostles primarily prefer pure spawn.

Mom "Normally, a good greater spawn should be as close to pure as possible, with almost no pesky impurities messing anything up. They're stronger that way, more focused down a specific line."
Mom "But my Mom is one of the few who wants a half and half, who's willing to compromise focus and strength, for versatility and the high connection that comes from it."
Mom "You're lucky really, most of her other siblings would have killed ya on the spot. Her twin brother is the only other who'd be cool with it."
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WW has confirmed that not every black screen implies death. The second Dead End you mentioned has the same outcome as the Too Strong Too Soon Dead End. MC is knocked out, brought before Memory, everyone ends up getting killed by LoD.

Ella is impressed by MC in the Dead End because she assumed he was like her: a Body spawn that needs a trial/evolution in order to access the Memory trait. Revealing that information to her shows her that you were perfect from the very beginning, so she takes you to Memory. We aren't entirely sure why Memory wants a split spawn though, best guess is that it has something to do with the Arbiters.

It's the same thing with Syla. We'll never be as good at Memory as her, something MC himself mentions after watching her fight with Indra.

That doesn't mean we'll necessarily be weaker than them or can never beat them, but the enhanced versatility that comes with having two Traits comes at the cost of fine control of both.

For Laurie, all MC was doing was stopping the explosion and moving bits around, Deryl was recreating the destroyed tissue:

You "!!!!!!!"
"I force her flesh to stop, overwhelming the explosive power of the bolt inside her, I freeze her flesh in place and force it back together-"
Deryl "Holy fuck..."
"But I don't know what I'm doing, how much power I should be using. I have memories that can guide me, but one wrong move and Laurie's neck ends up like all my failed prison experiments-"
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Deryl "I got your back bro!!"
"Deryl puts his hand next to mind, lending his own power and his own knowledge."
"That golden elixir, it constructs the missing parts of Laurie's body, creating more material for me to work with and transform. All the flesh Laurie lost during the explosion is recreated-"
"And together, piece by piece, we rebuild Laurie's butchered neck-"
"But its still not perfect, even Deryl's knowledge is not comprehensive enough to fix her perfectly, and the memories I have of other women don't fit Laurie's body type."
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"She breathes once more, but its ragged and unnatural. Worse is the state of her brain, her brain stem was mortally damaged in the initial explosion."
"I'm not sure how good of a job we did repairing it, or if she'll be the same when she wakes, if she even can...."
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