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Elduriel

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How much content has been added since?

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I want to know before playing again and being left on another cliff hanger
lots, there is a whole new arc that was wrapped up since then, and now we're supposedly in the final arc iirc.
 

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Man, I've never cursed so much in a game during the Liz/Amber twins part, didn't deserve that right after Liz declared herself to the MC. :cry:
Is there any way to avoid that disaster? I encouraged them, but I believe that even if I didn't encourage them, it would have happened, right?
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I want to try to put her back in her body since Deryl kept her parts. Liz has always been my favorite of the twins. :(
 
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obibobi

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For Laurie, all MC was doing was stopping the explosion and moving bits around, Deryl was recreating the destroyed tissue:
That's massively underselling what they where doing, the reason that moment was such a big deal is because the 2 of them where for all intensive purposes, bringing a character back from death and it was from her head being scrambled, had it been a hole blown in her chest, I think at that moment the MC could have done it himself with ease.

After all, the mind is the mind, its who you are, you can't replace it, they had to put it back as it was after it had just been blown to pieces. Arm, leg, lungs, heart, eyes, etc, those should be so much easier for the MC, which is why that moment, almost any other form of healing, should have been easy.

If Weird doesn't want the MC to heal a specific injury, its easy to come up with excuses, they did for the tree, Ella was just that much stronger and it had been too soon, for Michael they could have dropped a line about how he would need to get all the radiation out of his body but he wouldn't do that because it would leave him vulnerable, which would be a very Michael way of thinking.
 

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I even skipped all the MC memories and dreams
To end that misfortune soon, I just want revenge, and slowly....
 

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That's massively underselling what they where doing, the reason that moment was such a big deal is because the 2 of them where for all intensive purposes, bringing a character back from death and it was from her head being scrambled, had it been a hole blown in her chest, I think at that moment the MC could have done it himself with ease.

After all, the mind is the mind, its who you are, you can't replace it, they had to put it back as it was after it had just been blown to pieces. Arm, leg, lungs, heart, eyes, etc, those should be so much easier for the MC, which is why that moment, almost any other form of healing, should have been easy.

If Weird doesn't want the MC to heal a specific injury, its easy to come up with excuses, they did for the tree, Ella was just that much stronger and it had been too soon, for Michael they could have dropped a line about how he would need to get all the radiation out of his body but he wouldn't do that because it would leave him vulnerable, which would be a very Michael way of thinking.
Well, she's been comatose for presumably a year now, so "alive" might be a misnomer.
 
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Zekethor2

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''Mc will never be as good at manipulating the body as Ella will'', oooh hard disagree. Sorry but I really don't remember any information that sets this in stone, at all.
And I also don't remember where it was stated what role Deryl played in healing Laurie, just that his elixir provided support. And also it was never stated that Laurie was a low power level 2, she considers herself as average, and that does check out, she did lose to Alice, but Alice is being noted as a unusually powerful level 1 back then. So I don't think the Mc healing Laurie could have been so easily justified as just Laurie being weak and he had Deryl's assistance ( since I really don't remeber anything said about how much or how little Deryl helped ).

I am re-reading the game for like the seventh time, and if it's not too much bother, could you tell me where it's stated that the Mc's split trait is such a handicap ? I do remember reading some things, but to say he will '' never be as good as manipulating Body as Ella even at level 5 '' is a huge surprise to me.

Even back in the earliest parts of the game, in the '' Too Strong, Too Soon '' dead end, Ella is surprised and impressed that the Mc could, at a measly level 1, display such powerful skills in relativity to his level, such as the Jellyfish poison tentacles, the rhino bone horn and so on. This crazy transformations, presumably ones Ella could not have done at the same level, since it is noted she had to go to many trials to research biology, as we see during the investigation into her past school life, she had to experiment and consult a teacher and try on who knows how many transformations. Meanwhile one touch is all it takes for the Mc.
She literaly states she had to tinker with her body and experiment for God knows how long, meanwhile, the Mc doesn't have to research biology, he doesn't have to cut open the bodies of others like some Dr Frankenstein, he doesn't have to go to the lengths Ella did, because he can instantly receive said information with a single touch. That's what makes him close to Ella's level of body manipulation without being a research genius like she is.

In another Dead End, where she kills ( although likely decapitated you ) when you tell her of your Jellyfish poison, she instantly realizes that using that kind of ability could only be done if the Mc had the memory trait, and to me it always seemed like she instantly figured it out because using that kind of ability is something not even she could have done at that early of a level, aka a indication, his Memory traits allow him to be just as good if not better at Body manipulation.

That was always how I saw things, Ella is ''imperfect'', she says so herself, because she doesn't have the split traits. But the split traits should be a gateway into the Mc surpassing her in all aspects. It makes no sense otherwise. It's literaly a big lore point. The Mc being able to consume and absorb memories, genetic coding, etc.

Damn sorry for the wall of text, sheesh.
In that discussion between the two of you, I tend to agree more with you, Jonathan. The game has always suggested that the MC had the ability to alter the bodies of those weaker than him, just as he did with the prisoners. It’s worth clarifying that the memory trait which allowed him to transform into whoever he touched apparently didn’t help him with this, since he clearly struggled a lot, experimenting on several prisoners before feeling confident enough. Up to this point, we can agree that the MC seems capable of modifying the bodies of weaker people, like he did with his friend, even enlarging his penis.

So, it wouldn’t be very consistent if, say, one of those weaker people suffered an injury and he couldn’t simply step in and heal it. For things like cuts, amputations, and similar wounds, he should be able to restore them again, only in weaker individuals. WW could establish this as a rule.

Now, Laurie... that’s an extreme case. He didn’t just regenerate her, or restore a limb, he literally rebuilt her entire brain, even though she was only level 2. Even if he did it with Deryl’s help, there’s still a major issue:

Michael.... , for example. He was level 2, badly injured, and yet was never healed. At no point did anyone expect the MC to cure him. If all it took was Deryl’s help, then in theory they could have healed his face in a single night. But they didn’t. My take might sound a bit silly, but maybe Michael simply refused his help for some reason. The healing could have been done, but he just didn’t want it.

Then there’s Shadow. In her case, the illness might be more complex than just lost limbs or external injuries. Since it’s something internal, maybe systemic, like a disease, it’s possible the MC doesn’t yet know how to cure that kind of condition.

In the end, the most consistent approach would be to keep his ability as it is, to avoid creating narrative inconsistencies. Still, if the WW decides to change it, I’ll understand.
 

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Why is there no darkness superhuman I just realized? Is it because they would be too hard to write?
It's because darkness is extremely hard to find pure. There are few monsters who are pure darkness that could transmit the full trait, one that we know of is Valravn but knowing him he probably is waiting for someone worthy of it and that will praise his lord and saviour the 7th.

Darkness can be found mixed with other traits in some monsters tho.
 

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Now, Laurie... that’s an extreme case. He didn’t just regenerate her, or restore a limb, he literally rebuilt her entire brain, even though she was only level 2. Even if he did it with Deryl’s help, there’s still a major issue:
Maybe I’m misremembering, but didn’t the MC just make sure to hold her brain matter together and reconnect it or something like that, while Deryls did the real work of saving her?
 
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