VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Krytax123]

this is by far the most fun thread when people are impatient for the update, so refreshing to the usual "dev is a milker "

 

[dolfe67]

Owari da.

omae wa mou shinde iru

 

[thegibusman]

One more week for the update means two more weeks before the glitches are patched out.

 

[necromater]

Ypu know the drill boys and girl

Blueballs time means
Weird times

Time to fuck with the distards

Why?

No reason

We just feel like it

 

[Fatalfury10]

Hopefully they're able to separate Liz and Amber. Simply so we can see them combine their powers. During the battle where MC and co fighting all those monsters by the portal in the Monster World, I can't help but think that this following gif summed up the monsters' reaction to Liz dragging them all the way down to Monster World's version of Davy Jones' Locker



Especially considering that if I recall correctly, the monsters were scared shitless of the deep depths of the ocean there.

 

[nalgonas4ever]

this is by far the most fun thread when people are impatient for the update, so refreshing to the usual "dev is a milker "

I'm not aware of the situation on the patron and subscribestar but after some of the streams I think that's because WW is very upfront and blunt in a good way wich is very refreshing, also the content of the updates always leads on a bunch on discussion and theorising wich is nice.

 

[Big_I_Guy]

Hopefully they're able to separate Liz and Amber. Simply so we can see them combine their powers.

This reminds me of something I've noticed in the game, which is that "fusion" seems to be a way for lower levels to punch up/hold their own against higher level opponents:

- when the MC is fighting the two Minyaks he's easily crushing them until they fuse and go giant, then he's surprised at how strong they are.
- MC and Deryl fighting together against Cole
- MC and Michael fighting as one against that green A class at the portal

This appears to be the counter narrative to Ella's "only personal strength matters" mantra.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

This reminds me of something I've noticed in the game, which is that "fusion" seems to be a way for lower levels to punch up/hold their own against higher level opponents:

- when the MC is fighting the two Minyaks he's easily crushing them until they fuse and go giant, then he's surprised at how strong they are.
- MC and Deryl fighting together against Cole
- MC and Michael fighting as one against that green A class at the portal

This appears to be the counter narrative to Ella's "only personal strength matters" mantra.

I mean, Ella herself fused with MC twice. The first time to kill the flaming hound monster and again at the Hexenringe during their group fight.

At times, Ella is a walking contradiction. She wants MC to treat his friends as tools, but she doesn't see her own friends as such. Refusing to even let one of them die to further her own goal.

 

[Fatalfury10]

This reminds me of something I've noticed in the game, which is that "fusion" seems to be a way for lower levels to punch up/hold their own against higher level opponents:

- when the MC is fighting the two Minyaks he's easily crushing them until they fuse and go giant, then he's surprised at how strong they are.
- MC and Deryl fighting together against Cole
- MC and Michael fighting as one against that green A class at the portal

This appears to be the counter narrative to Ella's "only personal strength matters" mantra.

The irony regarding Ella having that mantra is that Ella (Doll) and MC had fought as one sometime before MC and Michael fought against that A class monster.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

This reminds me of something I've noticed in the game, which is that "fusion" seems to be a way for lower levels to punch up/hold their own against higher level opponents:

- when the MC is fighting the two Minyaks he's easily crushing them until they fuse and go giant, then he's surprised at how strong they are.
- MC and Deryl fighting together against Cole
- MC and Michael fighting as one against that green A class at the portal

This appears to be the counter narrative to Ella's "only personal strength matters" mantra.

I don't think it's too contradictory. It's not that Ella thinks that working with others is ineffective, she just thinks it will impede a person's growth in the long run. Rely too much on others and you won't push yourself to your limits, precisely because having help is such an advantage. The support you receive will kill your motivation. Working together can be effective in the short term, but you shouldn't make a habit of it.

Ella's still a hypocrite, though, because if having peers you can rely on is bad then having underlings you rely on is even worse. Not valuing the people she manipulates just means she's willing to put more of a workload on them, and do less herself. Really, her personal strength obsession comes across more as a justification for her lack of non-predatory social skills. "It's okay that I have no real friends, just people I scam, because if I had someone I could trust it would just make me grow dependent on them. It's better this way."

 

[M1K3_0]

For some reason I can't play the game anymore, can anyone help me? I start it, on Task Manager it's running on the background, but it isn't fully open/running so that I can play



Now it gave me an error message on the notepad app

"
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 277, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\renpy\main.py", line 558, in main
renpy.game.context().run(node)
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.linux-x86_64/lib/python3.9/site-packages/future/utils/__init__.py", line 441, in raise_
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
File "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\renpy\execution.py", line 61, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809
Superhuman 0.9999b
Wed Oct 8 13:25:06 2025
"

 

[Jonathan Y]

I don't think it's too contradictory. It's not that Ella thinks that working with others is ineffective, she just thinks it will impede a person's growth in the long run. Rely too much on others and you won't push yourself to your limits, precisely because having help is such an advantage. The support you receive will kill your motivation. Working together can be effective in the short term, but you shouldn't make a habit of it.

Ella's still a hypocrite, though, because if having peers you can rely on is bad then having underlings you rely on is even worse. Not valuing the people she manipulates just means she's willing to put more of a workload on them, and do less herself. Really, her personal strength obsession comes across more as a justification for her lack of non-predatory social skills. "It's okay that I have no real friends, just people I scam, because if I had someone I could trust it would just make me grow dependent on them. It's better this way."

Hold on a second, Christie and Emily are her friends, do you not think Ella genuinly sees them that way ?

Sure, Ella has practical uses for everyone in her life, but from a purely selfish, "what can you do for me" view, are Christie and Emily not totaly useless to her ? And yet, she fought and won against the influence of two Apostles to save Christie and continued being friends with Emily despite her believing she would not become a Superhuman.
She even kills the Mc should he off Christie, that's behaviour that goes completely against her life's goals.

And whilst we see Ella discard most human life with ease, she seemed to treasure them even tho she thinks they would not be cut out for being Superhumans. That's a huge deal as Ella pretty much only saw value in everyone except those two as Superhumans. The Mc, Jake, all the people shes turned. Hell she even dismisses the torture the Foxglove twins went through as ultimately worth it for becoming Superhumans. But not Christie and Emily.

Also I disagree with saying :
- "Ella's still a hypocrite, though, because if having peers you can rely on is bad then having underlings you rely on is even worse. Not valuing the people she manipulates just means she's willing to put more of a workload on them, and do less herself."

First because she did a fuckton of things herself, and secondly, saying wether she truly values the people she manipulates or not is debatable. I mean those in her inner circle did end up very favorably in life because of her.

Take Briar, Shen, Zara and even Cole, she rescued them from torturous, literal child slavery and gave them freedom and her guidance. Were they to see that she just used them I reckon they would not be hurt too deeply, since they benefited immensely from her presence regardless.
And there is no evidence to suggest she trew them at goals they couldn't accomplish ( apparently the Valravn scuffle was Cole's fault ? ).
Same case for those orphans she looked after.

 

[kazuan]

This appears to be the counter narrative to Ella's "only personal strength matters" mantra.

I don't remember the exact wording of the conversation but I do not think she was against cooperation. She said that if you fight as a group and start to think of fight tactics in those terms then your powers and tactics will evolve and mutate to accommodate that way of fighting, which makes you much stronger when fighting alongside your friends but makes you all weaker if you get separated. This could lead to MC getting better at healing others but make his offensive powers weaker or less versatile.
Briar is a good example: He has amazing healing powers that outclass even level 3 MC but he has practically no way to fight on his own. This can also lead to the other kids, Cole for example, relying on his healing abilities and fight overly aggressively and take stupid risks.

Ellas main argument was basically: Learn to rely on yourself and you will be in a better position to fight alongside those that matter to you.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Hold on a second, Christie and Emily are her friends, do you not think Ella genuinly sees them that way ?

Sure, Ella has practical uses for everyone in her life, but from a purely selfish, "what can you do for me" view, are Christie and Emily not totaly useless to her ? And yet, she fought and won against the influence of two Apostles to save Christie and continued being friends with Emily despite her believing she would not become a Superhuman.
She even kills the Mc should he off Christie, that's behaviour that goes completely against her life's goals.

And whilst we see Ella discard most human life with ease, she seemed to treasure them even tho she thinks they would not be cut out for being Superhumans. That's a huge deal as Ella pretty much only saw value in everyone except those two as Superhumans. The Mc, Jake, all the people shes turned. Hell she even dismisses the torture the Foxglove twins went through as ultimately worth it for becoming Superhumans. But not Christie and Emily.

I think that while Ella clearly values Christie and Emily, she doesn't trust or rely upon them. There's a repeated theme in their interactions that Christie and Emily know very little about Ella or what goes on in her life. Which, sure, Ella is some sort of superhuman terrorist working for and possibly planning to betray alien gods. It makes sense that she's secretive about her activities. Even if she wanted to let Christie and Emily become part of her world, it would be a huge risk to them, and so precisely because she values them she can't open up. But just because there are pragmatic reasons for being so distant from her closest friends doesn't change that she is distant.

Also I disagree with saying :
- "Ella's still a hypocrite, though, because if having peers you can rely on is bad then having underlings you rely on is even worse. Not valuing the people she manipulates just means she's willing to put more of a workload on them, and do less herself."

First because she did a fuckton of things herself, and secondly, saying wether she truly values the people she manipulates or not is debatable. I mean those in her inner circle did end up very favorably in life because of her.

Take Briar, Shen, Zara and even Cole, she rescued them from torturous, literal child slavery and gave them freedom and her guidance. Were they to see that she just used them I reckon they would not be hurt too deeply, since they benefited immensely from her presence regardless.
And there is no evidence to suggest she trew them at goals they couldn't accomplish ( apparently the Valravn scuffle was Cole's fault ? ).
Same case for those orphans she looked after.

You're not wrong. I didn't phrase that super well. What I meant is that, whatever Ella's actual beliefs are, her actions are hypocritical with her stated beliefs. She's still making use of other people's strength instead of doing everything on her own (and yes, she does do plenty, I'm not accusing her of doing nothing). So either she's not living up to her own philosophy of radical independence, or she doesn't really believe in that philosophy. I'm inclined to think it's the second. That she does care about people, but her circumstances mean that she can't be open with them about any of her inner thoughts, so she's trying to convince herself that she shouldn't care. That's why she keeps trying to frame all her relationships as manipulations, because if that's the case then her not being emotionally open is something normal.

 

[A fleeting presence]

For some reason I can't play the game anymore, can anyone help me? I start it, on Task Manager it's running on the background, but it isn't fully open/running so that I can play



Now it gave me an error message on the notepad app

"
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\renpy\bootstrap.py", line 277, in bootstrap
renpy.main.main()
File "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\renpy\main.py", line 558, in main
renpy.game.context().run(node)
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
File "/home/tom/ab/renpy-build/tmp/install.linux-x86_64/lib/python3.9/site-packages/future/utils/__init__.py", line 441, in raise_
File "game/screens.rpy", line 1087, in script
style history_window is empty
File "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\renpy\execution.py", line 61, in check_infinite_loop
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")
Exception: Possible infinite loop.

Windows-10-10.0.19041 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809
Superhuman 0.9999b
Wed Oct 8 13:25:06 2025
"

Okey, I'm by no shot an expert on this but checking the said error lines, it appears the game is flagging a bunch of stuff as Exceptions while they are simply not. RenPy version is the one that's supposed to be, so unless you used the Multi-Mod or an Android port, this shouldn't normally happen...

You mentioned task manager, did you forcefully close the game before problems started with it? Checking the "execution.py" code, it should only raise that flag if:



# The number of statements that have been run since the last infinite loop
# check.
il_statements = 0

# The deadline for reporting we're not in an infinite loop.
il_time = 0


def check_infinite_loop():
global il_statements

il_statements += 1

if il_statements <= 1000:
return

il_statements = 0

global il_time

now = time.time()

if now > il_time:
il_time = now + 60
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")


Your error is somewhere here, maybe someone more knowledgeable on RenPy/Python can pinpoint it but if I were in your shoes I would:


-Check that I don't have another instance of Superhuman/RenPy/Phython bugged on Task Manager (Specially if you happen to have closed it forcefully here)

-If game is on external media, unplug and plug again (using the "extract flash drive" context menu)

-Restart your computer. This helped another user who had some weird bug as well while playing Superhuman, so beyond the meme it's totally worth a shot.

-Go to "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Superhuman" AND "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\game\saves" and make a copy of your savefiles and everything else on those directories somewhere else (including persistent), and delete/empty BOTH directories. This should force the game to start in a "fresh state", aka with no stored data that may be corrupted to read.

Let me know if any of this helps



EDIT: I'm further checking the code, Did you happen to enable "config.developer" in "/Renpy/Common/00console.rpy" ? If so, the game might have a different threshold for flagging normal delay as an infinite loop. Feel free to reply when you check all this

 

[M1K3_0]

I don't remember the exact wording of the conversation but I do not think she was against cooperation. She said that if you fight as a group and start to think of fight tactics in those terms then your powers and tactics will evolve and mutate to accommodate that way of fighting, which makes you much stronger when fighting alongside your friends but makes you all weaker if you get separated. This could lead to MC getting better at healing others but make his offensive powers weaker or less versatile.
Briar is a good example: He has amazing healing powers that outclass even level 3 MC but he has practically no way to fight on his own. This can also lead to the other kids, Cole for example, relying on his healing abilities and fight overly aggressively and take stupid risks.

Ellas main argument was basically: Learn to rely on yourself and you will be in a better position to fight alongside those that matter to you.

 

[M1K3_0]

Okey, I'm by no shot an expert on this but checking the said error lines, it appears the game is flagging a bunch of stuff as Exceptions while they are simply not. RenPy version is the one that's supposed to be, so unless you used the Multi-Mod or an Android port, this shouldn't normally happen...

You mentioned task manager, did you forcefully close the game before problems started with it? Checking the "execution.py" code, it should only raise that flag if:



# The number of statements that have been run since the last infinite loop
# check.
il_statements = 0

# The deadline for reporting we're not in an infinite loop.
il_time = 0


def check_infinite_loop():
global il_statements

il_statements += 1

if il_statements <= 1000:
return

il_statements = 0

global il_time

now = time.time()

if now > il_time:
il_time = now + 60
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")


Your error is somewhere here, maybe someone more knowledgeable on RenPy/Python can pinpoint it but if I were in your shoes I would:


-Check that I don't have another instance of Superhuman/RenPy/Phython bugged on Task Manager (Specially if you happen to have closed it forcefully here)

-If game is on external media, unplug and plug again (using the "extract flash drive" context menu)

-Restart your computer. This helped another user who had some weird bug as well while playing Superhuman, so beyond the meme it's totally worth a shot.

-Go to "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Superhuman" AND "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\game\saves" and make a copy of your savefiles and everything else on those directories somewhere else (including persistent), and delete/empty BOTH directories. This should force the game to start in a "fresh state", aka with no stored data that may be corrupted to read.

Let me know if any of this helps



EDIT: I'm further checking the code, Did you happen to enable "config.developer" in "/Renpy/Common/00console.rpy" ? If so, the game might have a different threshold for flagging normal delay as an infinite loop. Feel free to reply when you check all this

I've been using the Multi-Mod since early on and didn't get this kind of error before, it just became like this seemingly outta nowhere

You mentioned task manager, did you forcefully close the game before problems started with it? Checking the "execution.py" code, it should only raise that flag if:

I did try closing it before, but just because it was taking too long to properly start, it was running on the background for minutes, but the game window never did pop up, nor any kind of error message on notepad

And the ones that gave me the error message, they did it after closing Ren'Py and creating the log for the error on notepad




Thanks for the help, I'll try restarting my PC, if it doesn't work, I'll backup the saves and delete them, but if I do reinstate them, wouldn't it break the game again?

Also, no, I didn't enable

EDIT: I'm further checking the code, Did you happen to enable "config.developer" in "/Renpy/Common/00console.rpy" ? If so, the game might have a different threshold for flagging normal delay as an infinite loop. Feel free to reply when you check all this

I'm not even sure how I would do that, is there any way it was enabled on it's own? How would I disable it if it is enabled?

 

[Acanthite]

Ellas main argument was basically: Learn to rely on yourself and you will be in a better position to fight alongside those that matter to you.

This and a lot of other things that happened on the monster world have me extremely interested in seeing what's going to happen when Ella comes back in full force. Seems like a foregone conclusion that she'll gain something of the doll's memories or MC will show them to her; will she keep the softened edge around the group? Things like working directly together with the team, MC finally remembering meeting and hanging out with her growing up, I want to see how that affects her when she's back to pushing her primary goals.

If nothing else it's been a very interesting reflection of what her relationship with the kids she rescued might've looked like. Maybe the fight at the teleportation ring was a bit like when the SIN group fought Valraven? Other than Val bullying Cole and Ella's obvious preference for MC.

 

[M1K3_0]

This and a lot of other things that happened on the monster world have me extremely interested in seeing what's going to happen when Ella comes back in full force. Seems like a foregone conclusion that she'll gain something of the doll's memories or MC will show them to her; will she keep the softened edge around the group? Things like working directly together with the team, MC finally remembering meeting and hanging out with her growing up, I want to see how that affects her when she's back to pushing her primary goals.

If nothing else it's been a very interesting reflection of what her relationship with the kids she rescued might've looked like. Maybe the fight at the teleportation ring was a bit like when the SIN group fought Valraven? Other than Val bullying Cole and Ella's obvious preference for MC.

Didn't the MC pretty much remember everything from his childhood?

Not sure if there's more to remember from his missing past, the weaker aspects of his "memories" are the connections to the Apostles IIRC, being "shallow"

But not to his own memories and past

 

[lorkdubo]

Didn't the MC pretty much remember everything from his childhood?

Not sure if there's more to remember from his missing past, the weaker aspects of his "memories" are the connections to the Apostles IIRC, being "shallow"

But not to his own memories and past

He still doesn't remember his time with ella. The time he ran away.