Acanthite

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Ellas main argument was basically: Learn to rely on yourself and you will be in a better position to fight alongside those that matter to you.
This and a lot of other things that happened on the monster world have me extremely interested in seeing what's going to happen when Ella comes back in full force. Seems like a foregone conclusion that she'll gain something of the doll's memories or MC will show them to her; will she keep the softened edge around the group? Things like working directly together with the team, MC finally remembering meeting and hanging out with her growing up, I want to see how that affects her when she's back to pushing her primary goals.

If nothing else it's been a very interesting reflection of what her relationship with the kids she rescued might've looked like. Maybe the fight at the teleportation ring was a bit like when the SIN group fought Valraven? Other than Val bullying Cole and Ella's obvious preference for MC.
 

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This and a lot of other things that happened on the monster world have me extremely interested in seeing what's going to happen when Ella comes back in full force. Seems like a foregone conclusion that she'll gain something of the doll's memories or MC will show them to her; will she keep the softened edge around the group? Things like working directly together with the team, MC finally remembering meeting and hanging out with her growing up, I want to see how that affects her when she's back to pushing her primary goals.

If nothing else it's been a very interesting reflection of what her relationship with the kids she rescued might've looked like. Maybe the fight at the teleportation ring was a bit like when the SIN group fought Valraven? Other than Val bullying Cole and Ella's obvious preference for MC.
Didn't the MC pretty much remember everything from his childhood?

Not sure if there's more to remember from his missing past, the weaker aspects of his "memories" are the connections to the Apostles IIRC, being "shallow"

But not to his own memories and past
 

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He still doesn't remember his time with ella. The time he ran away.
If I recall correctly, he and Ella did briefly mention that but nothing more was mentioned afterwards. He probably does remember it now but what exactly happened was never revealed. Could be wrong though. I'm actually still waiting for WeirdWorld to somehow have that discussion brought up in the next update when MC and Ella Doll reunite. I'm curious as to who all was in Ella's group that MC hung out with when he ran away.
 

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Didn't the MC pretty much remember everything from his childhood?
I was just pointing out the stuff he remembered that's specifically about Ella and wondering how the real Ella will feel about it, if that's a thing WW explores further. Doll Ella is very clearly happy about his little revelation, especially if he promised to protect her, but real Ella might be aware of things or farther enough ahead on her plans to make her react a little differently. I'm a sucker for nuanced character development like this.

I also really wanna see the result of holding the corrupt rock for her. I want more Ella points.
 

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Okey, I'm by no shot an expert on this but checking the said error lines, it appears the game is flagging a bunch of stuff as Exceptions while they are simply not. RenPy version is the one that's supposed to be, so unless you used the Multi-Mod or an Android port, this shouldn't normally happen...

You mentioned task manager, did you forcefully close the game before problems started with it? Checking the "execution.py" code, it should only raise that flag if:



# The number of statements that have been run since the last infinite loop
# check.
il_statements = 0

# The deadline for reporting we're not in an infinite loop.
il_time = 0


def check_infinite_loop():
global il_statements

il_statements += 1

if il_statements <= 1000:
return

il_statements = 0

global il_time

now = time.time()

if now > il_time:
il_time = now + 60
raise Exception("Possible infinite loop.")



Your error is somewhere here, maybe someone more knowledgeable on RenPy/Python can pinpoint it but if I were in your shoes I would:


-Check that I don't have another instance of Superhuman/RenPy/Phython bugged on Task Manager (Specially if you happen to have closed it forcefully here)

-If game is on external media, unplug and plug again (using the "extract flash drive" context menu)

-Restart your computer. This helped another user who had some weird bug as well while playing Superhuman, so beyond the meme it's totally worth a shot.

-Go to "C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\Superhuman" AND "C:\Users\User\Desktop\renpy\Superhuman\Superhuman-0.9999b-pc\game\saves" and make a copy of your savefiles and everything else on those directories somewhere else (including persistent), and delete/empty BOTH directories. This should force the game to start in a "fresh state", aka with no stored data that may be corrupted to read.

Let me know if any of this helps :HideThePain:



EDIT: I'm further checking the code, Did you happen to enable "config.developer" in "/Renpy/Common/00console.rpy" ? If so, the game might have a different threshold for flagging normal delay as an infinite loop. Feel free to reply when you check all this
I restarted my PC and the problem persists, the game isn't giving an error message but it doesn't really open either, here's the log on the game folder
 
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I've been using the Multi-Mod since early on and didn't get this kind of error before, it just became like this seemingly outta nowhere



I did try closing it before, but just because it was taking too long to properly start, it was running on the background for minutes, but the game window never did pop up, nor any kind of error message on notepad

And the ones that gave me the error message, they did it after closing Ren'Py and creating the log for the error on notepad




Thanks for the help, I'll try restarting my PC, if it doesn't work, I'll backup the saves and delete them, but if I do reinstate them, wouldn't it break the game again?

Also, no, I didn't enable


I'm not even sure how I would do that, is there any way it was enabled on it's own? How would I disable it if it is enabled?

Another person was using Multi-Mod and it suddenly broke the game for them, though restarting fixed it magically, hence my recommendation.


IF the error was by any chance on the savefiles/persistent data, maybe you could paste back said files and figure out the bugged one, possibly saving up some in the process unless all of them were corrupted (if you had many files, simply re-add half of them each time to try to figure out the corrupted one)

I'm not knowledgeable on the multi-mod, but usually, on the vanilla game there is "/Renpy/Common/00console.rpy", which you can open with notepad and check if the setting is there (config.console is there for example).
Actually, nevermind, you would need to edit some lines in "/Renpy/Common/00library.rpy" to enable/disable config.developer, here is how: < >

I would however try to check the multi-mod files (aka, download the multi-mod again and open it instead of merging with the game files) to see what "/Renpy/Common/" files it adds.


Final option now that you confirmed me you use multi-mod would be to start the game fresh without any multi-mod files (Update is dropping soon... :BootyTime:) and see from there how it goes...

Also, if you want to mess with values in-game, I prefer to use < > to edit savefiles and then if needed < > to validate them in case the game is dumb (Superhuman isn't, so you can skip this step but still, just saying) because that way I know that is there is a bug, is solely a game-sided problem and I don't have to overwrite gamefiles with multi-mod ones. Food for thought
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I restarted my PC and the problem persists, the game isn't giving an error message but it doesn't really open either, here's the log on the game folder
Damn, I'm dumb and I skipped over this... Let me read it and see


Okey, it seems it's getting stuck reading the script, so it's really hellbent in either flagging stuff as an infinite loop or it is actually in an infinite loop...

Also, maybe it's the game is really taking a bit to initialize, your log file doesn't include any error whatsoever, it just says "Loading Script data took 74.29s", so either the script failed, or you maybe have a lot of savefiles (like me lol) and it's stuck reading that. Here is mine for example:

Thu Oct 9 01:49:30 2025
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809


Bootstrap to the start of init.init took 0.12s
Early init took 0.01s
Loader init took 44.40s
Loading error handling took 1.39s
Loading script took 24.89s
Loading save slot metadata. took 59.16s
Loading persistent took 0.13s

(more stuff here, game launched normally for me)



Could you try to launch the game again and wait 5-10 min? That way hopefully it will read the save slot metadata and proceed to write the actual error
 
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does anyone know if the dev plans on updating the early game scenes and sprites. i remember liking this game but that was the main reason i struggled to get into it
 
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Reminder that the MC briefly met the 4th after the MW Hexeringe fight and memories were returned, but not revealed nor discussed.
 

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I don't remember the exact wording of the conversation but I do not think she was against cooperation. She said that if you fight as a group and start to think of fight tactics in those terms then your powers and tactics will evolve and mutate to accommodate that way of fighting, which makes you much stronger when fighting alongside your friends but makes you all weaker if you get separated. This could lead to MC getting better at healing others but make his offensive powers weaker or less versatile.
Briar is a good example: He has amazing healing powers that outclass even level 3 MC but he has practically no way to fight on his own. This can also lead to the other kids, Cole for example, relying on his healing abilities and fight overly aggressively and take stupid risks.
I think this is it, Ella is not against have loved ones but rely on them during dangerous times, and at least on this setting that hold some truth. Malik, Bernhardt and Henri are the strongest spawn of this iteration of Humanity, and probably among the top in History as a whole, they are tight to the point of call each other 'Brother', yet they clearly won't rely in each other for a fight, as during the time they were gonna rescue MC from Hex Dimension, is mentioned how they haven't fought together in over fifty years.
 

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For some reason, I feel like Bernhardt would agree with Ella's words tbh. He is not happy being called for help by Elijah, but still clearly cares for them.
I think all the Captains+ Henri would agree with her to some extent, the Story paint all the Veteran Supers as unique and highly lean to violence, even the arguably nicest one, Malik has high level of corruption, chase for individual strength is probably something they all agree, but yeah, Bernhardt would be the most in tune with that line of thought, as Malik and Nyx for example clearly do the heavy lift for their Teams.
 

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This and a lot of other things that happened on the monster world have me extremely interested in seeing what's going to happen when Ella comes back in full force. Seems like a foregone conclusion that she'll gain something of the doll's memories or MC will show them to her; will she keep the softened edge around the group? Things like working directly together with the team, MC finally remembering meeting and hanging out with her growing up, I want to see how that affects her when she's back to pushing her primary goals.

If nothing else it's been a very interesting reflection of what her relationship with the kids she rescued might've looked like. Maybe the fight at the teleportation ring was a bit like when the SIN group fought Valraven? Other than Val bullying Cole and Ella's obvious preference for MC.
My biggest... Concern? Lets go with concern, is that when Doll Ella was snooping around SIN HQ looking for the monster who was supposed to wake her up I believe she said something along the lines of "Big Ella has gone off the deep end". It seems that something happened after Ella made the Doll that caused Big Ella to go to more extreme measures to further her plans.
This could means there has been a sort of divergence or degradation or morals and possibly personality. If Big Ella is revived and receive Doll Ellas memories it's questionable what that will do to her personality. It would be neat if it somehow tied into MCs own corruption/affection to Ella, causing more of Doll Ellas personality/group friendship to remain if he has low corruption/high affection.

For some reason, I feel like Bernhardt would agree with Ella's words tbh. He is not happy being called for help by Elijah, but still clearly cares for them.
I believe he was unhappy in that specific example not because he had to come help, but rather Elijah and Kira basically begged him to go in his stead. Their overconfidence failed the mission, caused their PR mascot(MC) to get kidnapped and probably interrupted whatever mission Bernhardt was on when Elijah called him.

I think all the Captains+ Henri would agree with her to some extent, the Story paint all the Veteran Supers as unique and highly lean to violence, even the arguably nicest one, Malik has high level of corruption, chase for individual strength is probably something they all agree, but yeah, Bernhardt would be the most in tune with that line of thought, as Malik and Nyx for example clearly do the heavy lift for their Teams.
Keep in mind the Captains were all members of the M-Division, they were most likely elite soldiers and professional killers even before becoming superhuman and Bernhardt was their Captain. Corruption is gained by killing and they all did a lot of killing, with Malik in particular being basically a precision battlefield nuke.
 
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- Discussing with Xanthe about the Monster World and Yuren.

- Helping Tiffany with her side stuff and possibly meeting Claudia. I expect sex scene with one of them, or maybe both.

- Valravn escaping. Eisheth doing Eisheth things.

- If Lexi is still sleeping, MC will help wake her up. Assuming Henri didn't already.

- Possibly another talk with a Chosen. Maybe even a Rebis meeting.

- If you didn't kill the Green Child, possibly a reveal of it being Aglaecwif child. I'm not fully on board with the idea, but the behaviors displayed are similar to what Valravn described. Especially since it can traverse the Immaterial World and find MC in the Monster World. But, again, I'm not fully on board with it myself. Mainly because you can see the kid even if you skip Aglaecwif. That said, WW has messed up before, like being able to tell Ella about what Aglaecwif said about gods in the Monster World. Even though you didn't choose that. Or when you reach the end of this update, you see Claire, even though you killed her.

- Visiting Malik and Zack last locations. Probably a memory of Zack losing or siding with Indra. Who knows?

- Malik off somewhere with maybe Bernhardt and/or Henri looking for him.

- Nico sex scene. Portal Sex won and pretty much WW spoiled it last stream.

- Some more lore drop about the Arbiters along with the Sky Queen and Sea King.

- Apostles being on the move.

- Final Nico vs Hex fight.

- Another Origin MC dead end, but this time Indra or Henri packs him up.

- Alice and Michael may or may not be hinted at returning to earth.

- Some huge info dump about Deus and his intentions.

- I expect at least one Level 5 superhuman of HERO to get killed off.

- Maybe MC reaches Level 4.

That's pretty much it off the top of my head. This is going off of the assumption that next update is the last one before 1.0 release. Which means I think WW will set up everything in this update to move into 1.0 update.
Oh, could we add finding out whatever the cheat code Shopkeep gave us is for?
 
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