VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[M1K3_0]

Damn, I'm dumb and I skipped over this... Let me read it and see


Okey, it seems it's getting stuck reading the script, so it's really hellbent in either flagging stuff as an infinite loop or it is actually in an infinite loop...

Also, maybe it's the game is really taking a bit to initialize, your log file doesn't include any error whatsoever, it just says "Loading Script data took 74.29s", so either the script failed, or you maybe have a lot of savefiles (like me lol) and it's stuck reading that. Here is mine for example:

Thu Oct 9 01:49:30 2025
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809


Bootstrap to the start of init.init took 0.12s
Early init took 0.01s
Loader init took 44.40s
Loading error handling took 1.39s
Loading script took 24.89s
Loading save slot metadata. took 59.16s
Loading persistent took 0.13s

(more stuff here, game launched normally for me)


Could you try to launch the game again and wait 5-10 min? That way hopefully it will read the save slot metadata and proceed to write the actual error

I do have a lot of save files, but on the last time I was playing it was opening with no problem, do I have to delete some? Because I transfered them away from the save folder and it still doesn't open

Okay, I'll wait for around 10 minutes and come back to you with whatever happened

 

[bfc233]

But if they have memory powers, why can't they just forget, erase, or destroy the memory of the trauma?

Huh, funny you'd say that, because trauma isn't just stored in memories, it's also stored in your body.
You can actually see a lot of people drown in their sorrows because they walk like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders; suffer back pains, headaches, can even dislocate their hips. Nerves can take permanent damage, muscles start replacing scar tissue with fat, digestion fails, blood sugar rises... there's a really long list that sounds horrible but moves at the speed of government.

 

[Acanthite]

My biggest... Concern? Lets go with concern, is that when Doll Ella was snooping around SIN HQ looking for the monster who was supposed to wake her up I believe she said something along the lines of "Big Ella has gone off the deep end". It seems that something happened after Ella made the Doll that caused Big Ella to go to more extreme measures to further her plans.

Couldn't quite remember the exact context so I went to check. It's specifically when doll Ella sees the entire city full of monsters and it's more specifically "Holy shit. An entire city full of monsters? Big me is crazy". Everything else kind of impresses her except HATING seeing Tanos and even then she decides to brush him off. We don't quite get her full thought process about the comment though. At face value she's calling big Ella crazy for setting up the city for monsters, but it's possible to read it like she's impressed by big Ella for managing to make it happen.

So imo that big point of concern is definitely whatever happened that turned her toward hunting down or recruiting all those S ranks. Definitely stuff she learned after making the doll. I'm mostly wondering exactly how bad she's ready for things to get before they get better since that little nugget comes from doll Ella. It feels like she's ready for things to get about as bad as they did for the Sea/Sky people right before their leaders were defeated. She's practically hastening the early colonization, but whatever she's planning with the monster hearts doesn't seem to be something that happened to the monster world. At the very least I didn't catch any hints of it other than her taking the one that Aos had in his possession. My gut says she wants the real bodies of the Apostles to show up, and for MC's Origin power to kick in and do something. Ella strikes me as an aggressively No Gods No Masters type (which is why she became my favorite), so maybe she wants to beat them all and stop the cycle or whatever drives it.

I really doubt it's gonna happen until the next game, but given that Too Strong Too Early dead end maybe Body and Memory are going to willingly give something to MC? If so I bet that's when we'll fight Valraven at full strength, or maybe the Lord of Dark incarnating with Val's body or something (if MC is level 5 and has Evolution powers up and running by then). It would be a kickass follow-through on that super early glimpse at three "gods" in one place.

 

[M1K3_0]

I do have a lot of save files, but on the last time I was playing it was opening with no problem, do I have to delete some? Because I transfered them away from the save folder and it still doesn't open

Okay, I'll wait for around 10 minutes and come back to you with whatever happened

A post I made after this was deleted by the admins or by an error of the forum I guess???

Anyways, I mistakenly didn't delete the data on "Roaming\RenPy\Superhuman" before, only on "saves"(but now both are deleted and properly stored elsewhere)

Now it's running normally again, but I'm unsure what to do if I wanna have all my saves accessible besides the newest and oldest ones

Thanks for all the help A fleeting presence

 

[thegibusman]

I think this is it, Ella is not against have loved ones but rely on them during dangerous times, and at least on this setting that hold some truth. Malik, Bernhardt and Henri are the strongest spawn of this iteration of Humanity, and probably among the top in History as a whole, they are tight to the point of call each other 'Brother', yet they clearly won't rely in each other for a fight, as during the time they were gonna rescue MC from Hex Dimension, is mentioned how they haven't fought together in over fifty years.

Going off of what was discussed in Deryl's wagon, I don't believe Superhumans can "brick" themselves the way video game characters can. It's likely you simply gain abilities depending on what you're focused on.
MC and other lone fighters developed a wide variety of abilities on their own when they were concentrating on broadening their toolkits.
Michael and Cole spoke of how the evolution trance gave them better ideas of how to use their powers.
The natural 5th evolution captains, Alice, and those who monster-out unlock all of their techniques immediately because they are totally subsumed in their idea-self (element? power? spirit? I don't know what to call someone's supernaturalness).

I believe H.E.R.O. agents job so often because most of them only need to serve their initial purpose. They can rely on a full roster of agents to compensate for everything else, so they never bother to develop techniques that are obvious to we readers yet are only seen used by monsters or advanced characters. Case in point
> Laura (crystal girl) only developing armor when she had her first serious fight in close combat.
> Black Mouth stated MC could learn his transformations as a fellow progeny of Body
> everyone infected by Creation just makes things from blueprints.

 

[Deleted member 9635502]

Now the wait begins, again. The days flew by effortlessly once weird human confirmed the delay but the next few days are gonna be torture like before.

 

[Jonathan Y]

BTW what kind of mission could he be doing? With his powers he could kill any monster in a few minutes. He can't be everywhere but he could clean an entire country in a few days

Didn't he mention to Elijah him abandoning his mission cost many humans to die ? So it was probably a protect and eliminate.

Plus I believe it was mentioned that Zack's powers allows them to know when a monter might attack, but it sometimes isn't a 100% exact estimate. So it could be he had info that a powerful monster would attack at a certain location but didn't know the exact time.

 

[BenoTF25]

Yeah, Deus and Zack somewhat predict where something is gonna happen, Bernhardt's mission probably was guard a City that was foreseen to be attacked, beyond that though, is possible that he and Malik can't use their full speed on Earth by how destructive it would be, Bern can definitely give several circles over the Planet, as he and EyeMC apparently reached Mars in a blink(and Malik's traveling on outer space without Nico or a Hexeringe), but that would just nuke the surface as collateral damage, so, he can't just be moving from here and there at full speed if his intend is to save people.

 

[A fleeting presence]

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[Ovalyn]

Is there a plan to update the earlier parts of the game? specifically the art is way different than the second half of the game so it's kinda weird.

 

[dolfe67]

Is there a plan to update the earlier parts of the game? specifically the art is way different than the second half of the game so it's kinda weird.

Yes for the 1.0 next year

 

[EienYagami]

Everyone's tense and quiet with their balls drawn up tight, waiting and waiting for the update.

 

[TheShelly]

You know, I never thought I would experience CBT on a regular basis but WW seems determined to force our nuts to quake for months on end for every single damn update. I wish I could say it wasn't worth it every time, but I'd be lying.

 

[Krytax123]

Yeah, Deus and Zack somewhat predict where something is gonna happen, Bernhardt's mission probably was guard a City that was foreseen to be attacked, beyond that though, is possible that he and Malik can't use their full speed on Earth by how destructive it would be, Bern can definitely give several circles over the Planet, as he and EyeMC apparently reached Mars in a blink(and Malik's traveling on outer space without Nico or a Hexeringe), but that would just nuke the surface as collateral damage, so, he can't just be moving from here and there at full speed if his intend is to save people.

I doubt that speed of movement was the/a problem. We see in the presentation for the prime minister how bernhard very quickly moves from the hq to whereever the monster appeared which was supposed to be far away

but we were rarely shown the scope/frequency of monster attacks, we kinda only see parts of our little (peaceful?) sector. It still sounds weird (plotholey) how Hero is THIS pressured while having more or less all powerful and uber fast people like bernhart, malik, clark, nico and so on. There have to be looooots of monsters spawning every moment everywhere.

But imo Bernhardt was just talking about the human sacrifices (and not really concerned) to talk a lesson into elias or get him more determined or "whatever it costs'ly" and he was disappointed in their weakness.

 

[kazuan]

Keep in mind Zack is missing and his predictions weren't always as accurate as they would like. Deus is better but I'd imagine he would have to be giving predictions non stop since it's happening all over the world at varying intensity/scale. Also for the entire duration of the invasion I believe Stephen said civilian casualties has been in the hundreds of thousands, which really speaks to how well HERO is handling things despite them having I think only 12 level 5 superhumans.

 

[dolfe67]

Who's the stongest: Superman, Goku or Bernhardt?

There must be Doomsday's popping every day everywhere for Bernhardt and the other lvl 5 heroes not to be able to eradicate them definitely. Or they have evolved so much above human level that they don't care about them dying to low level monsters

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Who's the stongest: Superman, Goku or Bernhardt?

There must be Doomsday's popping every day everywhere for Bernhardt and the other lvl 5 heroes not to be able to eradicate them definitely. Or they have evolved so much above human level that they don't care about them dying to low level monsters

I figure that a lot of their difficulties are because they're trying to completely avoid civilian casualties. That's got to slow them down a lot. They can't just bombard a target and move on to the next, they've got to do precision strikes and make sure no one ever gets caught in collateral damage. Every engagement winds up taking longer than it needs to, because H.E.R.O. agents aren't allowed to use their full power.

 

[BenoTF25]

I doubt that speed of movement was the/a problem. We see in the presentation for the prime minister how bernhard very quickly moves from the hq to whereever the monster appeared which was supposed to be far away

but we were rarely shown the scope/frequency of monster attacks, we kinda only see parts of our little (peaceful?) sector. It still sounds weird (plotholey) how Hero is THIS pressured while having more or less all powerful and uber fast people like bernhart, malik, clark, nico and so on. There have to be looooots of monsters spawning every moment everywhere.

But imo Bernhardt was just talking about the human sacrifices (and not really concerned) to talk a lesson into elias or get him more determined or "whatever it costs'ly" and he was disappointed in their weakness.

Yeah, I get what you mean, Nyx for one can just like, one-shot pretty much anything below Chosen level, nonetheless I think a lot of of issues boil down to HERO wanting to keep damage at minimum like already mentioned here right before me. Deus was sent to deal with Hex during BoD because he was a good match against him, I use that as an example of how the Captains can't just be sent to overpower everything, even if realistically they can, there are variables, and even if not, you can't just have a Level 5 completely fucking over a large chunk of the Planet on a Permanent way.

 

[kazuan]

To reiterate: There are (according to the wiki) 12 level 5 superhumans in HERO. Zack and Malik are MIA, Alexis is captured by Aglaecwif and Henri is too unstable to really help.
That leaves 8 level 5s to cover the entire world and even then fully eradicating the monsters aren't a possibility since this is an ongoing invasion. Without Zack they likely don't have enough forewarning about the attacks and are left mostly reacting to an enemy that likely has prescient monsters to coordinate and plan around HERO.
Combine that with the high likelihood that there probably aren't any level 4s and even level 3s are probably rather rare in HERO, so any A-rank or higher monsters that show up must be dealt with by the level 5s.
Bernhardt is extremely powerful but even he can't be everywhere all the time, the rest of the level 5s are out running missions near constantly and even then I believe Stephen said some sectors had been basically abandoned because HERO lacks manpower. Even with Lucius they can't be everywhere.

It certainly doesn't help that the monsters seem to be able to identify and target communication infrastructure. You can't kill something you don't know exist after all.

can't just have a Level 5 completely fucking over a large chunk of the Planet on a Permanent way.

Bernhardt beat Eisheth without doing any real damage and even whisked away her hostages presumably without hurting them. If they have to resort to that kind of firepower it is likely the monster they are facing would to far far worse if they tried to hold back. We have only really seen them do/try anything hugely damaging against Ella or Origin-MC I believe.

 

[KKStrider]

To reiterate: There are (according to the wiki) 12 level 5 superhumans in HERO. Zack and Malik are MIA, Alexis is captured by Aglaecwif and Henri is too unstable to really help.
That leaves 8 level 5s to cover the entire world and even then fully eradicating the monsters aren't a possibility since this is an ongoing invasion. Without Zack they likely don't have enough forewarning about the attacks and are left mostly reacting to an enemy that likely has prescient monsters to coordinate and plan around HERO.
Combine that with the high likelihood that there probably aren't any level 4s and even level 3s are probably rather rare in HERO, so any A-rank or higher monsters that show up must be dealt with by the level 5s.
Bernhardt is extremely powerful but even he can't be everywhere all the time, the rest of the level 5s are out running missions near constantly and even then I believe Stephen said some sectors had been basically abandoned because HERO lacks manpower. Even with Lucius they can't be everywhere.

It certainly doesn't help that the monsters seem to be able to identify and target communication infrastructure. You can't kill something you don't know exist after all.


Bernhardt beat Eisheth without doing any real damage and even whisked away her hostages presumably without hurting them. If they have to resort to that kind of firepower it is likely the monster they are facing would to far far worse if they tried to hold back. We have only really seen them do/try anything hugely damaging against Ella or Origin-MC I believe.

Another factor to consider is that Halona's the most versatile precognitive that H.E.R.O. has. Halona's spirits can give information on present or future events even if they don't involve her. Deus and Zack, however, have the restriction that they can only foretell events that involve them. Even then, one of them gets incapacitated by nightmares and the other's M.I.A.

While we still don't know all the strengths and limits of their powers, I also speculate that all technology being on the fritz would actually severely nerf Deus and Zack's ability to predict attacks. I imagine events having to be "related to [them]" would encompass being informed of an attack by a H.E.R.O. agent in the field or media panic with an estimate on when said event started rather than having to be at the epicentre of the event. For example, maybe future Zack got an after action report of the S.I.N. infiltration if the future MC screws up, then his present self reports that information to the present MC. Therefore if no one can call in an attack due to all tech being screwed, their future selves either don't ever find out or they do find out later but agent casualties or other factors mean they can only relay fractured information to the present.