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Alice can suppress her monster form and appear as a human remember?
Maybe WW did that to make sure that H.E.R.O doesn't know that she's a Monster.




Your concerns are valid, but the reason I thought of this theory is because Thematically it makes sense.
As for how exactly it will pan out, WW can make it happen in many ways.
If Bernhardt and Malik is missing, don't you think H.E.R.O would set aside their differences and even take help from AOS if necessary?
Also there's someone in HERO that AOS is "terrified of", so it's unlikely AOS can do any damage to HERO even if HERO thinks he's not trustworthy.
So we have Alice, AOS, and many other unknown options.

And Ella and Deus are always Wild Cards, so there's that.
And where is Ella Doll? Very suspicious.
No matter what S.I.N wants, or how shitty of a person Ella might be, she's still probably on Humanity's Side, at least on the long term.

Another angle to look from it is, maybe Bernhardt and Malik's fight doesn't end anytime soon, and they keep fighting for months.
In one of the Dead End in Monster World, where in that Brothel quest you get trapped, the Universe ends.
Maybe that's a result of this Bernhardt and Malik vs Wasting Mother fight after years.

So, many ways to go about it, exciting stuff, let's see how it pans out.

Everyone wants to save the world, they just disagree how to do it.
Be it MC's Group, Ella's Group, H.E.R.O, S.I.N, M.O.O.N (including Tanos), or the World Government, nobody wants the Monsters to take over.
I dont think in the monster brothel dead end the universe ends, its the monster world that ends, presumably by Malik iirc what was written in the texts, just like how he's been blowing up planets using his sun birth ability. Idk why hes creating new stars in the process though why doesnt he just destroy the planet and be done with it?
 
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Acanthite

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Pretty sure Liz fell asleep.
I kinda think it might be because of how much more messed up Liz still is from Tanos. The kidnapping happened not long after the bonfire party, a moment where MC might very well have dragged her underlying emotions out, where a similar group picture happened. Not to mention the trust that was placed in MC and Deryl to protect her and Amber. I don't think she was really asleep. I think she was trying to avoid any possible vulnerable moment like that. It's good follow-through on Liz's affection not budging since then, while Amber's has.
 

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I don't think any monster other than a special few (maybe Glae, Indra etc) can do anything to Sun.
The sun is, well, MAAAAAASIVE.

I wonder what would happen if Nico teleports a monster in the center of a Black hole, would be more dangerous than the center of sun.
The sun is significantly closer than the nearest black hole, Gaia BH1, which is 1,560 lightyears away. Sure, it probably would insta-jib most anything, but that's not a trivial distance to throw something.
 

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I dont think in the monster brothel dead end the universe ends, its the monster world that ends, presumably by Malik iirc what was written in the texts, just like how he's been blowing up planets using his sun birth ability. Idk why hes creating new stars in the process though why doesnt he just destroy the planet and be done with it?
The DeadEnd also mentioned that after the destruction of Monster World kickstart a War of Universal Importance. About why Malik create Stars, he's a softie, Elijah for one looked pissed at the idea of just blow up planets, I reckon Malik want to 'leave something behind' rather than just nuke the Planet out of existence, he was rather reluctant to even destroy one in the first place. Bernhardt probably just blast them away though, he doesn't give a fuck
 

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Played it sometime ago when it was brand new, liked it, waited some time, played it mid development, liked it, decided to wait for a new update, fast forward some time - I was like, huh, 0.9? Well, I'll just wait until the game is finished then. HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU ADD ANOTHER 9? I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT HAVING TO REPLAY IT ALL OVER AGAIN IN A WEEK BECAUSE FINAL UPDATE IS NOW RELEASED
 

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I hadn't actually considered the possibility of Met vs MC. That would be VERY interesting if only to see if MC's thought of any meaningful way to not be hard countered. I think MC's raw power accumulation is greater than Met's because of the monster world arc, but yeah, Met has a very real chance of just steamrolling that. That said it would feel kinda weird for a serious fight to happen here if you did Met and Rina the solid of stopping them from accepting the mark/oath. I don't think anyone at SIN needs MC for this stage of the plan, I'd expect them to target him once Ella is back and on the next step.
I sure fucking hope those two cunts remember us warning them.

I remember being very pissed at those two, since in every playthrough I warn them, yet, how do those two ungrateful bastards react when they see the Mc drugged unconscious, chained, and with his limbs chopped off by SIN ? They just go : " Thanks Nathan/Mc, but sorry we can't help you, we don't wanna risk our own payjobs ".
They gloss over you warning them HARD.

Fuck those two, they better remember they owe the Mc big fcking time.
 

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Id like to see that monster bitch try.
I think the best they can do is distract him, maybe that was one of the purposes of controlling Zack if that happened.

But it doesnt seem like they intend to win a war against hero anyway, they just want one window of opportunity (to get ella back?)

Imo its pretty nice how multiple people were discussing what the big three were up to prior to the update and how weirdworld answered these questions in a satisfying and logical way

better writing than gen v which i was just watching lol
 

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Oh shit, I just realized Tanos has his own serum. Evander and Devanna are basically all but confirmed to be at minimum evo 4s right now.
Twins evolve twice, so they can't be at level 4.
With that said, there are multiple Watsonian reasons the twins might not be level 5. Tanos wants them to spend more time refining their skills at level 3, he doesn't want to risk them (I believe he says his serum is worse than Xanthe's), or he thinks they can achieve level 5 naturally - which would be absolutely massive for SIN.

The Doylist reasons are that the twins being at level 5 might make things too easy for SIN, and WW probably wants MC to have a rematch with them at level 3.
 
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I remember being very pissed at those two, since in every playthrough I warn them, yet, how do those two ungrateful bastards react when they see the Mc drugged unconscious, chained, and with his limbs chopped off by SIN ? They just go : " Thanks Nathan/Mc, but sorry we can't help you, we don't wanna risk our own payjobs ".
They gloss over you warning them HARD.
Well prepare to be even more pissed after Tanos pays them to recover his little Lamber experiment
 

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Twins evolve twice, so they can't be at level 4.
With that said, there are multiple Watsonian reasons the twins might not be level 5. Tanos wants them to spend more time refining their skills at level 3, he doesn't want to risk them (I believe he says his serum is worse than Xanthe's), or he thinks they can achieve level 5 naturally - which would be absolutely massive for SIN.

The Doylist reasons are that the twins being at level 5 might make things too easy for SIN, and WW probably wants MC to have a rematch with them at level 3.
I dunno why people read it like this; I've never interpreted the double evo thing this way. The way I've always read it, when one twin evolves, it triggers the evolution in the other. So when Devanna hit evo 2, it caused Evander to also hit evo 2.

They hit evo 3 as quick as they did because they're under the constant eye of Tanos who has specifically been guiding their training and growth.
 

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It didn't set any variables, so idk.
Another bug? Surely there has to be a tradeoff for not delivering the files.

Also does anyone know where to report bugs and spelling errors to the dev?
There were a few glaring ones in this update, like the one when you sit down with Tiffany to eat and she comments on your mom being a monster.

Also when you beat chad in the simulator and the text says "jake had to go back to mia afterwards".
I was like ?? jake?
 

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I dunno why people read it like this; I've never interpreted the double evo thing this way. The way I've always read it, when one twin evolves, it triggers the evolution in the other. So when Devanna hit evo 2, it caused Evander to also hit evo 2.

They hit evo 3 as quick as they did because they're under the constant eye of Tanos who has specifically been guiding their training and growth.
Maybe, but it would explain how Limber are going to catch up so quickly, and why Evander is so limited in terms of what he can do with his power.
 
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Theory time.

I feel like as someone else pointed out, Nico will get incapacitated next update stranding Bernhardt and Malik into deep space.
However, this might be a set-up to eventually bring Alice back in the story and play a pivotal role bringing the stranded Captains back.
So Alice will likely take Nico's place in some way shape or form.

I think that's also the reason why Nico specifically said this update that, all she does is use Hexenriges to teleport, so teleportation isn't necessarily happening with her body.
So that means anybody that can control a Hex can do teleportation, maybe not as well as Nico, but well enough to teleport at least.
And we know Aos also has one Hex with him as well.
So, we can assume that maybe during Alice's Monster World search for Michael, she'll also take control of a special Hex that'll let her travel the cosmos similar to Nico.
And then after she comes back, she will control the special Hex that Bernhardt used to reach Malik, maybe with Clark's power as well (similar to the Diamond Battle arc).

I thought this was an interesting angle to look from, what do you guys think?
the most interesting about this Nico theory is that it could lead into some great character development and romance for her. i like it.
 
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The spicy scene with Tiffany in this update reminded me of the 'infertility' problems that superhumans are supposed to have, but I've never understood why it would be a problem for the MC with his power set.

If I remember right, supers aren't actually sterile, the problem is their mutations makes them so genetically unique that they are just too different to be compatible enough with anyone else to have kids... like how human and chimpanzee DNA is 98.8% the same, but that 1.2% still enough to make us radically different.

The MC is a shapeshifter who can absorb samples of other organisms DNA and change his own well enough to copy them. He should be able to adapt his genetics to become compatible with any partner. But for some reason this barely ever gets alluded too despite the possibility of having kids being brought up repeatedly throughout the game.

Am I missing something?
remenber what happens to "pieces" of the mc's body when they are removed from him? they dissolve. in order to do what your describing the mc would not only have to alter his dna to be compatible enough with his partner to make a child but he would also have to (or his partner) supply it with enough energy that it doesn't just stop existing. i imagine what this would look like is whatever mother of his child he chooses would genuinely have to constantly manually feed their own power into his sperm cells or he would have to infuse enough power into his sperm to last multiple months so the child can develop their own energy without needing a constant supply from the mother to exist/not die or be threatened with the possibility of the MC's energy being depleted at a critical stage. i think it's safe to say level 5 will fix this kinda problem.
 
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