VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Jonathan Y]

Alice gets mad at you for double-timing her with Liz or Amber in the monster world.
The scene I cannot recall, but she says you're going to have a serious talk back on earth.

But she's a monster now so..... I bet there are fewer Alice fans now given the reaction to her at the start of this year

Fewer fans for Alice ?
Nah I doubt it. First, her monsterfication is incredibly tame and not that radical when you consider it.

So let's see, she is a monster, and how did her body change ? A tail, longer fingernails, some tatoos, and freaky eyes. But wait, she can literaly for some reason shapshift her features and look human whenever she wants so nvm.

Other than that the changes to her mental state aren't that radical, Alice was skirting the corruption line for a long time. It is stated multiple times before the Monster World that she is a killer and enjoys it.

So no, I don't think her monstertication impacts either her character nor her fanbase that much.

 

[Elduriel]

Fewer fans for Alice ?
Nah I doubt it. First, her monsterfication is incredibly tame and not that radical when you consider it.

So let's see, she is a monster, and how did hrr body change ? A tail, longer fingernails, some tatoos, and freaky eyes. But wait, she can literaly for some reason shapshift her features and look human so nvm.

Other than that the changes to her mental state aren't that radical, Alice was skirting the corruption line for a long time. It is stated multiple times before the Monster World that she is a killer and enjoys it.

So no, I don't think her monstertication impacts either her character nor her fanbase that much.

it could be interesting though if you could knock her up in her current state. Since you can't really do that with with regular humans/superhumans.

 

[Acanthite]

Alice wants commitment and honesty. She doesn't seem to care much about exclusivity. She has the strictest boundaries of the actual girlfriends but that isn't saying much. She wants the talk because MC tripped over the honesty thing by not saying anything openly to her sooner. She'll almost certainly be fine with MC continuing his ways to a point, with a vague threat to encourage better communication.

She even lays out a little murderous power trip fantasy of letting MC fuck random flocks of fangirls in a Dream World scene. She's down, just wants to know what's going on.

 

[Juan96]

They were barely into their relationship tho. Wasn't that scene way before their heartfelt lake date when Alice both asks him wether he loves her and he says he does and won't ever abandon her ? Point is, to me it seemed that lake scene was the point their relationship became deep.
Before that ? they were mostly testing the waters.

Also in the monster world, when you train with her in the dream world and they have their sex scene in the air, she says at some point if the Mc chooses ''Imagine all the girls jealous of you fucking **** ( his hero name )", that she would rip the head of any of his super fangirls that got too close. Jokingly sure, but I'm a firm believer Alice is not, and should not be written as totaly fine with sharing.

I've said it before, I think WW is aware a good portion of his fanbase is presumably super into harem routes, and I personaly think he has kinda been catering to them. But I for one hope the Mc will at some point get the option to choose one love interest and that would affect a branch of one of the eventual endings, based on who he chooses.

It's kinda silly to write every single female love interest as either not caring, or aproving of having a constantly sex craving, playboy for a boyfriend who fucks anything remotely humanoid looking.
For some ? Sure, Ella is a hardly coventional gf material and Christie is a nympho, then you have maybe Nico who is a freak so they wouldn't care.
But Alice, Emily, Amber and Liz, and others like Claudia ? And maybe even Tiffany ? Nah, I don't see them being cool with it forever, at some point they'll expect some exclusive commitment ( it's only logical ).

Amber and Liz had already agreed to share the MC between themselves, so I think there's a way to convince them to accept other women as well. Alice already agreed to share the MC with Tess during the lake sex scene, so there should be a loophole to convince her. Tiffany isn't sure if she would mind, and even if she did, she wouldn't have the right to complain, since she cheated on her fiancé twice before he died. Ella, Christie, and Emily shouldn't be a problem either; they already agreed to share the MC between themselves in the sex scenes. Ultimately, I believe the only ones who could cause problems would be Nico and Claudia.

 

[Juan96]

it could be interesting though if you could knock her up in her current state. Since you can't really do that with with regular humans/superhumans.

I believe that, if it wasn't really possible before, it would certainly be possible to get her pregnant now due to her transformation into a monster, especially since the mc managed to get Aglaecwif pregnant and there's no reason why it should be different with Alice.

 

[kazuan]

Nah, Shadow just said that Yuren was lying about having a way to fix her. Not even that, really, just her going "lies" when Emily said what Yuren offered her.

Huh. I was reasonably sure Shadow warned about the water, or at least gave some sort of warning that annoyed me that the MC didn't tell Emily about. Other than Yuren lying that is. I wonder where I got that from.

Fewer fans for Alice ?
Nah I doubt it. First, her monsterfication is incredibly tame and not that radical when you consider it.

Personally Alice lost some points when she started biting chunks out of the MC during sex. Straight up cannibalism is a bit too kinky for me.

 

[Juan96]

Personally Alice lost some points when she started biting chunks out of the MC during sex. Straight up cannibalism is a bit too kinky for me.

The mc does similar things in some sex scenes; he lets himself be dominated by monstrous instincts.

 

[Elduriel]

I believe that, if it wasn't really possible before, it would certainly be possible to get her pregnant now due to her transformation into a monster, especially since the protagonist managed to get Aglaecwif pregnant and there's no reason why it should be different with Alice.

yep, I'm rooting for it, but I think it's not really planned right now

 

[kazuan]

The mc does similar things in some sex scenes; he lets himself be dominated by monstrous instincts.

When does this happen? I can't remember him tearing chunks off or even really biting anyone during sex. Were those optional scenes I just ignored and forgot about?

 

[Juan96]

When does this happen? I can't remember him tearing chunks off or even really biting anyone during sex. Were those optional scenes I just ignored and forgot about?

From what I remember, he doesn't tear pieces off or bite anyone during sex, but he often gets carried away and engages in sexual relations in such an intense and abnormal way that he would kill any normal woman. However, when he has sex with normal women, he manages to maintain control.

 

[kazuan]

I would hardly count rough sex in anyway similar to tearing off and eating mouthfuls of flesh. He fucks hard because they like it and even asks for it and gets freaky with his shapeshifting but Alice just went "Hey you smell delicious let me eat your sweet flesh". She even wanted to bite his dick off.
Either way, having a romantic/sexual partner that looks at you the same way you look at a nice juicy steak is... Off putting.

 

[Juan96]

I would hardly count rough sex in anyway similar to tearing off and eating mouthfuls of flesh. He fucks hard because they like it and even asks for it and gets freaky with his shapeshifting but Alice just went "Hey you smell delicious let me eat your sweet flesh". She even wanted to bite his dick off.
Either way, having a romantic/sexual partner that looks at you the same way you look at a nice juicy steak is... Off putting.

As for Alice, she knows that the protagonist will be able to recover, and at the moment, that doesn't mean anything to him, he regenerates almost instantly any part of his body anyway. If it were any other superhuman besides the mc, having sex with Alice would be fatal, or at the very least the poor guy would end up with some parts of his body permanently amputated.

 

[johndqdo]

Hey guys, I want to theorize a bit about what a being with the power of one of the Arbiters would be capable of doing.

Authority + Power = Order: According to the wiki, "Order was the power to command all things, to structure all things, to write the laws that govern the universe, and to have both the Power and the Authority to enforce them." This suggests that Order could potentially do what Eisheth can do, but on a much larger scale?

Body + Memory = Evolution: Evolve and devolve others? Maybe capable of modifying beings in a way that makes it impossible to change back?

Time + Ether = Infinity: Thanks to Hex, we know Infinity can create dimensions.

Darkness + Light = Soul: Control souls, revive the dead and insta-death things?

Truth + Fantasy = Paradox: No ideia.

Destruction + Creationg = Chaos: No ideia.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Hey guys, I want to theorize a bit about what a being with the power of one of the Arbiters would be capable of doing.

Authority + Power = Order: According to the wiki, "Order was the power to command all things, to structure all things, to write the laws that govern the universe, and to have both the Power and the Authority to enforce them." This suggests that Order could potentially do what Eisheth can do, but on a much larger scale?

Body + Memory = Evolution: Evolve and devolve others? Maybe capable of modifying beings in a way that makes it impossible to change back?

Time + Ether = Infinity: Thanks to Hex, we know Infinity can create dimensions.

Darkness + Light = Soul: Control souls, revive the dead and insta-death things?

Truth + Fantasy = Paradox: No ideia.

Destruction + Creationg = Chaos: No ideia.

My theories on them

Order: Building off it being made in part of Authority, it would work by issuing commands, but ones that even inanimate objects and forces have to obey. Not reality manipulation, exactly, but issuing decrees about how the world works now that broadly modify the laws of nature. "And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light."

Evolution: I feel certain that this is going to be some sort of adaptive transformation. The MC has used Memory to automate his body, the next step is automating how his body transforms. Make it so that the MC evolves constantly, not in the leveling up sense but in adapting to his environment and circumstances. Repeated exposure to a stimulus would lead to his body refining his biology to handle it better and better, allowing him to eventually overcome any obstacle.

Infinity: Yeah, dimensional creation, though I expect the full thing is much better than what Hex can do. Hex can only copy real environments, full Infinity could custom-build its pocket dimensions for whatever it needs. Weapons, resources, minions. Probably also some ability to modify the physics inside the pocket dimensions, at the very least I'd expect the ability to alter space and time within them.

Soul: Something to do with manipulating souls, obviously, but beyond that it's vague. Best idea I have is that it does something with blessings and curses, based on Light being able to empower people and Dark being able to weaken them. Would explain why the Great Lord of the Seahumans had a soul-powered weapon.

Paradox: Probably this is what Henri is doing, and explains his reality-warping powers. Mechanically, it would work by overlaying Fantasies onto the world and then making them real with Truth.

Chaos: Something to do with cycles and rebirth? The memories the MC gets from the chaos flame in the monster temple he can visit indicate that the old world was burned away in the flames of Chaos, setting up the conditions for the beings who did it to one day be reborn. That kind of fits with it being made of Creation and Destruction, too. Destroy to rebuild.

 

[Zolrazz]

Evolution, among all that we can imagine and speculate, is the simplest and most visibly weak. All demonstrate extreme capabilities

Order is capable of rewriting the laws of the universe and most likely altering reality a little.

Infinity, probably capable of creating pocket dimensions, similar to galaxies in size I believe, and probably becoming a God in them.

Soul, power over life and death on a level that I cannot think of how to describe.

Paradox, Henri, changing the universe and reality at his whim and will

Chaos, a mixture between Derly and Evander.

Thinking about it this way, it's no surprise that the Eye ends up dying, even though the Referee seems weaker. Of course, I think a more important factor would be how much influence they are able to exert over others. If one has more power than the other, it keeps them safer from the effects of their enemies' abilities

 

[Acanthite]

Something I've thought about a few times is how Aglae thinks Order is probably the strongest power. But all the other Arbiters have power that should logically circumvent what Order imposes, unless Order is powerful enough to work overtime compensating for changes that ignore its Authority.

Evolution, something that becomes more or different than what it originally was, or was originally supposed to be. Infinity, warping and creating space in ways that should be impossible. Soul, direct power over the natural order of life and death. Paradox, the ability to overwrite/contradict reality and its rules with new truths or total fantasies. Chaos, a concept diametrically opposed to Order that I would presume can create and destroy without reason or maybe even just cancel out Order entirely depending on how conceptual WW wants to get with it. iirc we know for sure that Chaos has done some universal rearranging of shit once already which resulted in the Apostles.

Also realizing almost every time I brought up Henri before I kept associating him with Chaos instead of Paradox. Woops.

 

[gotmy223]

Why would she work towards advancing her goals when she could be vague and smug instead? That's just not how Ella Vulpe does things.

Which killed the character for me from the very onset.

She felt like a plot device from the very beginning, IMO. And I haven't been able to shake that perception of her.

 

[gotmy223]

They were barely into their relationship tho. Wasn't that scene way before their heartfelt lake date when Alice both asks him wether he loves her and he says he does and won't ever abandon her ? Point is, to me it seemed that lake scene was the point their relationship became deep.
Before that ? they were mostly testing the waters.

Also in the monster world, when you train with her in the dream world and they have their sex scene in the air, she says at some point if the Mc chooses ''Imagine all the girls jealous of you fucking **** ( his hero name )", that she would rip the head of any of his super fangirls that got too close. Jokingly sure, but I'm a firm believer Alice is not, and should not be written as totaly fine with sharing.

I've said it before, I think WW is aware a good portion of his fanbase is presumably super into harem routes, and I personaly think he has kinda been catering to them. But I for one hope the Mc will at some point get the option to choose one love interest and that would affect a branch of one of the eventual endings, based on who he chooses.

It's kinda silly to write every single female love interest as either not caring, or aproving of having a constantly sex craving, playboy for a boyfriend who fucks anything remotely humanoid looking.
For some ? Sure, Ella is a hardly coventional gf material and Christie is a nympho, then you have maybe Nico who is a freak so they wouldn't care.
But Alice, Emily, Amber and Liz, and others like Claudia ? And maybe even Tiffany ? Nah, I don't see them being cool with it forever, at some point they'll expect some exclusive commitment ( it's only logical ).

Yeah, I actually think that a (true) harem ending is the least logical route that WW could take the relationship aspect of the story. Pseudo-harem would make more sense. There are circles of friends that wouldn't mind sharing the MC with the girls in that circle, but would they be okay with sharing him with girls in other circles? For example, I think it's reasonable to say that Ella, Christie, and Emily would be okay with sharing the MC with each other. But would they be okay sharing him with Amber/Liz, and vice versa. Tiffany and Alice hate each other, so how would that work? Tiffany, at least right now, is extremely selfish. If she does actually developed feelings for the MC, it's hard to see her willing to share him with anyone.