VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.9999a Beta] [WeirdWorld]

[Nexum768]

Is there a date for the next release?

early december if i recall correctly

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

Say, does the dev use AI for some of his art? Because some of the shading in the new arts give off that AI generated vibe. Maybe it's just me.

 

[TheShelly]

Any guesses on what the eye is?

The Eye is heavily hinted to be the Arbiter of Evolution, a kind of higher tier god that is above the Apostles and possibly the origin of the 3rd and the 4th.

 

[The Specter]

Say, does the dev use AI for some of his art? Because some of the shading in the new arts give off that AI generated vibe. Maybe it's just me.

Pretty sure he does use it for little details, like the veins on Shen's arms and some shading, not sure if he uses it on much more than that though.

 

[JmTrad]

Say, does the dev use AI for some of his art? Because some of the shading in the new arts give off that AI generated vibe. Maybe it's just me.

There is live streams of him doing the art. From the little i saw, he uses 3D models to drawn on top. Maybe he uses AI for something? idk.

 

[harem.king]

So you are telling me Ella did NOT turn into MC to trick and drive apart Jake and MC?
She didn't tell Jake to Kill MC?
She didn't tell Jake to turn Deryll into her slave?
She doesn't run an orphanage where she uses Kids for HER goal, also probably didn't brainwash them?
She also didnt let loose an uncontrollable monster that cause the death of 50 people?
She also propably didnt trick hundreds of people to take the a pill that most of the time would kill them or turn them into a monster?

What does that have to do with what Jake did to Mia?

If you pay a guy to drive to the store and buy a bottle of milk, and he runs over someone with his car, you are not a murderer. Because it isn't your fault he ran over someone with his car.

Ella is only guilty of things she actually did, or directly ordered, at most you include things a reasonable person could deduce would follow from her orders.
Which means Ella is responsible for ordering Jake to go after MC and Darryl. But not responsible for what Jake did to Mia.

After all this if you still think Ella isn't a c*nt, i dont know what to tell you bro

You are engaging in tribalism. In your mind there are only 2 sides.
Side/Tribe A: Ella is Satan
Side/Tribe B: Ella is Saint

You saw me disagreeing with a point made by someone in Side A (they claimed that Ella is responsible for what Jake did to Mia).

In a fit of tribalism you decided that by daring to disagree of someone from your Tribe, it means I am a member of the only other Tribe in existence, Side B and thus are now straw-manning me by falsely attributing a bunch of claims to me that I did not make but allegedly other members of my Tribe did.
Stop doing that please. There are more than just 2 extreme sides to an issue and not everyone perfectly aligns with whatever "side" you think they belong to. Address what I actually said, not something others have said.

As for what Ella is...
She isn't out there killing people for fun
She is putting people in danger to prepare humanity for survival against what seems to be certain extinction.
Rather than her being "Evil". She is more of a "Renegade".
There are shades of Grey here

 

[Nexum768]

The Eye is heavily hinted to be the Arbiter of Evolution, a kind of higher tier god that is above the Apostles and possibly the origin of the 3rd and the 4th.

thats pretty fucking cool do all twin apostles have an arbiter that they might've originated from?

 

[Dipasimaan]

thats pretty fucking cool do all twin apostles have an arbiter that they might've originated from?

Most absolutely yes, I don't know if you finished the current update but there is an arc in where the MC navigates along 12 paths that are connected to the Apostles and when we "find" one then we can see their presentations and deduct by that what the name of their Arbiter is

 

[KyngC]

thats pretty fucking cool do all twin apostles have an arbiter that they might've originated from?

Yeah they all do. In order its:

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[Nexum768]

Most absolutely yes, I don't know if you finished the current update but there is an arc in where the MC navigates along 12 paths that are connected to the Apostles and when we "find" one then we can see their presentations and deduct by that what the name of their Arbiter is

I did finish the current update thought it was just talking about the apostles

 

[Nexum768]

Also I think its when MC gets his 3rd evolution the eye ask if he can be reborn? if this eye is an arbiter wtf could kill him? (Besides other arbiters I guess)

 

[TheShelly]

Also I think its when MC gets his 3rd evolution the eye ask if he can be reborn? if this eye is an arbiter wtf could kill him? (Besides other arbiters I guess)

Well during the Dead End you get from allowing the Eye to be reborn the Eye itself is incomplete, most likely due to MC's memory powers being unrefined at that point in time. Deus was able to kill the Eye by essentially going back in time and killing the MC before the Eye took over. Bernhardt was able to kill the Eye with his Planck Pressure attack, which essentially hit the Eye with the attractive force of an entire universe.

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

What does that have to do with what Jake did to Mia?

If you pay a guy to drive to the store and buy a bottle of milk, and he runs over someone with his car, you are not a murderer. Because it isn't your fault he ran over someone with his car.

Ella is only guilty of things she actually did, or directly ordered, at most you include things a reasonable person could deduce would follow from her orders.
Which means Ella is responsible for ordering Jake to go after MC and Darryl. But not responsible for what Jake did to Mia.

You are engaging in tribalism. In your mind there are only 2 sides.
Side/Tribe A: Ella is Satan
Side/Tribe B: Ella is Saint

You saw me disagreeing with a point made by someone in Side A (they claimed that Ella is responsible for what Jake did to Mia).

In a fit of tribalism you decided that by daring to disagree of someone from your Tribe, it means I am a member of the only other Tribe in existence, Side B and thus are now straw-manning me by falsely attributing a bunch of claims to me that I did not make but allegedly other members of my Tribe did.
Stop doing that please. There are more than just 2 extreme sides to an issue and not everyone perfectly aligns with whatever "side" you think they belong to. Address what I actually said, not something others have said.

As for what Ella is...
She isn't out there killing people for fun
She is putting people in danger to prepare humanity for survival against what seems to be certain extinction.
Rather than her being "Evil". She is more of a "Renegade".
There are shades of Grey here

Yeah, not really Ella's to blame for Mia, decision to brainfuck her was Jake's one and only, and going with "she led to the situation in the first place, so she's to blame" opens a can of worms that leads to immensely stupid claims, like blaming first man/woman on earth for all the shit that happened.

Neither it's a story for preschoolers, Ella is not a cartoonishly evil villain that does what she does becasue "I'm evil_TM", like everyone else in the story she is a complex character that has angles to it. But about that falsely accusing someone over something they did not claim - we do not know if she, to quote, prepares humanity for survival against annihilation. It might be the case, but we have no confirmation of this - Ella saying that, without anything else in game to really support it, is no proof. She is a known liar, outright stating things that are not true and easily debunked in 10 minutes of play. For all we know her plan might just be amass support of superhumans she made/swayed to her side, bring/hasten the apocalypse and rule as a king of the ashes that are left. Abused children are often, when they grow up, trying to build their self-worth on status and influence just to feel better for the pain they experienced, or use it to have the same leverage to abuse others without consequences, as seen from the perspective of their younger selves. Maybe, I do not know. Maybe she wants to bring the Apostles at person, not through avatars, to be rewarded with some turbo power boost? Maybe, it's all speculation.

But that evil/renegade and not killing for fun part? Not really true. I mean, maybe not for just fun, but she murders a hobo guy for no good reason but being mildly pissed at him. And showing off what she can do to MC, which might actually be just for fun. I don't know how many innocent lives must be taken directly, or make choices that directly lead to deaths while knowing that, for one to be considered evil, but I'd assume it's above zero. Again, she's not a one-dimensional brick labeled "evil" and that's it, the are grays here, but this is just a part of her. Like the twin slurping of Eisheth - she can, she likes the taste, so she kills.

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

Also I think its when MC gets his 3rd evolution the eye ask if he can be reborn? if this eye is an arbiter wtf could kill him? (Besides other arbiters I guess)

The Arbiter, and the vessel/avatar for the Arbiter are different things, I think.

 

[Ddlc]

Also I think its when MC gets his 3rd evolution the eye ask if he can be reborn? if this eye is an arbiter wtf could kill him? (Besides other arbiters I guess)

On the two occasions the eye takes control (the one during 3rd evolution and the other during the Cole fight) it mentions how it's still incomplete, so I assume it was far from it's full power.

 

[Nexum768]

Well during the Dead End you get from allowing the Eye to be reborn the Eye itself is incomplete, most likely due to MC's memory powers being unrefined at that point in time. Deus was able to kill the Eye by essentially going back in time and killing the MC before the Eye took over. Bernhardt was able to kill the Eye with his Planck Pressure attack, which essentially hit the Eye with the attractive force of an entire universe.

What the actual fuck is power scaling in this game

 

[Dark T-Rex]

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Just a wild guess, but this monster could be related to the 10th Apostle, The Fantasy.

 

[XeroZero000]

What the actual fuck is power scaling in this game

It's a mixture of soft and hard power system.

 

[shujuku]

What the actual fuck is power scaling in this game

first and foremost take it with a grain of salt. Keep in mind that this game is a shounen cockjump released every 3rd month. The monster parent here seems to be the largest factor alognside you as a person with the monster parent having the more rigid effects on a person. For example if your monster mommy is the 1st apostle your general defenses are weak and offenses but you get the power to mindfuck everyone near you. So you could perhaps be a tier 5 that ultra mindrapes everyone near you and rewrites their cognition however someone with a creation monster parent like Deryl could snipe your head off with some illogical weapon and you just die.

 

[harem.king]

Neither it's a story for preschoolers, Ella is not a cartoonishly evil villain that does what she does becasue "I'm evil_TM", like everyone else in the story she is a complex character that has angles to it. But about that falsely accusing someone over something they did not claim - we do not know if she, to quote, prepares humanity for survival against annihilation. It might be the case, but we have no confirmation of this - Ella saying that, without anything else in game to really support it, is no proof. She is a known liar, outright stating things that are not true and easily debunked in 10 minutes of play. For all we know her plan might just be amass support of superhumans she made/swayed to her side, bring/hasten the apocalypse and rule as a king of the ashes that are left. Abused children are often, when they grow up, trying to build their self-worth on status and influence just to feel better for the pain they experienced, or use it to have the same leverage to abuse others without consequences, as seen from the perspective of their younger selves. Maybe, I do not know. Maybe she wants to bring the Apostles at person, not through avatars, to be rewarded with some turbo power boost? Maybe, it's all speculation.

IIRC she never tells you what her goals are.
The monsters are the ones who tell you that humanity is going to be extinct and there is no use fighting it.
Ella is the one going around giving humans super powers. As well as inciting strife to make them level up.
not hard to put 2+2 together and figure out she is strengthening humanity.

But that evil/renegade and not killing for fun part? Not really true. I mean, maybe not for just fun, but she murders a hobo guy for no good reason but being mildly pissed at him. And showing off what she can do to MC, which might actually be just for fun. I don't know how many innocent lives must be taken directly, or make choices that directly lead to deaths while knowing that, for one to be considered evil, but I'd assume it's above zero. Again, she's not a one-dimensional brick labeled "evil" and that's it, the are grays here, but this is just a part of her. Like the twin slurping of Eisheth - she can, she likes the taste, so she kills.

IIRC the hobo in question was trying to rob an orphanage with a knife.
That was a justified execution, not killing for fun. And not "because he mildly annoyed her".