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1742251135584.jpg I didn't pay it much attention during his fight with Syla, but Indra's gun has a good design, it remind me of the retro lancer from Gears of War.

How strong do you people think a shot from Vajra would be at full capacity?, i'm at very least expecting that thing to blow off the moon or other ridiculous stuff when he finally use it on the real world
 

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View attachment 4656567 I didn't pay it much attention during his fight with Syla, but Indra's gun has a good design, it remind me of the retro lancer from Gears of War.

How strong do you people think a shot from Vajra would be at full capacity?, i'm at very least expecting that thing to blow off the moon or other ridiculous stuff when he finally use it on the real world
Depends if you want to say that Indra is superior to the Big 3. I think that he is, so if we consider him using the gun as "getting serious", then it's at least capable of destroying the planet.
 

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Anybody have any suggestions as to roughly how strong someone is during their evolution trance? From what we know, there's nothing someone can't do in a trace that the couldn't do at the same level outside of it with a bit of extra training. But clearly, a superhuman mid-trance is superior to their post-trance selves. So I think the trance should put a person in the middle of their growth for that stage, since the trance isn't necessarily your peak strength for that level.
 
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Anybody have any suggestions as to roughly how strong someone is during their evolution trance? From what we know, there's nothing someone can't do in a trace that the couldn't do at the same level outside of it with a bit of extra training. But clearly, a superhuman mid-trance is superior to their post-trance selves. So I think the trance should put a person in the middle of their growth for that stage, since the trance isn't necessarily your peak strength for that level.
I'd say that they may be more skilled and cost efficient with their new abilities in the trance, but in terms of raw Power, they're the same before and after the trance.
 
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View attachment 4656567 I didn't pay it much attention during his fight with Syla, but Indra's gun has a good design, it remind me of the retro lancer from Gears of War.

How strong do you people think a shot from Vajra would be at full capacity?, i'm at very least expecting that thing to blow off the moon or other ridiculous stuff when he finally use it on the real world
Pretty strong. Indra's lightning blasts against the Egregore were compared to nuclear bombs going off, but didn't do much damage to it. Summoning the Vajra completely destroyed it beyond hope of recovery. That wasn't even shooting the gun, just the thunderbolt it rides to its destination. So I expect that actual shots from the gun are gonna be apocalyptic. Shattering continents at a casual blast, and shooting down moons when fully charged. Hopefully we'll fight him in space instead of on Earth.

Anybody have any suggestions as to roughly how strong someone is during their evolution trance? From what we know, there's nothing someone can't do in a trace that the couldn't do at the same level outside of it with a bit of extra training. But clearly, a superhuman mid-trance is superior to their post-trance selves. So I think the trance should put a person in the middle of their growth for that stage, since the trance isn't necessarily your peak strength for that level.
We haven't actually seen that many evolutions, so it's hard to say, but I'd guess that the difference between evolution trance and maximum potential for a level increases with each evolution. The MC and Alice both learned very few things at level 2 that they weren't using in their evolution trance, even if they had to relearn things after the trance's increased control faded. The MC added some armor improvements and the mantis mechanisms, Alice added better gravity manipulation and flight. Compare that to the MC's level 3 abilities, he's learned a lot more than just what he was using in his level 3 trance. And when he hits level 4, he probably won't use in his trance even a fraction of the abilities he'll be using by the time he hits level 5.
 

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Hey i was just thinking about S.C.P's and the anomalies in that universe. And i feel like some these beings could definitely solo a good number of them before going up against some the real heavy hitters that can win by default cause they are like this or they will kill just by being near or intent of killing the S.C.P you know. Tell me no one hasn't thought of this as well?
 

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Thanks to all of you.
I'll dive into the wiki when I have time.

I think I understand most of the information the game provides but struggle with the parts you have to figure out on your own.
You have to give credit to WW, he managed to create a more interesting and intriguing story than multi-million-dollar companies.
It's why you should always support indies. They can experiment and see what works and what doesn't. AAA games don't have that luxury due to ballooned budgets and teams and terrible management.
 

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Part of me still believes that 'Big Ella' is around, either waiting to be awoken or already alive and hiding.
I have a theory that she will either absorb the doll Ella when they meet to regain her power (a la Deryl) OR by the time they meet, doll Ella will have become independent enough that she may want to remain separate. They might even fight if doll Ella reaches some different conclusions to Big Ella especially re:MC and his purpose. Either way, to maximise my chances I've been buttering up doll Ella in my playthrough (nothing to do with the sex scenes, I promise :sneaky:)
 
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Part of me still believes that 'Big Ella' is around, either waiting to be awoken or already alive and hiding.
I have a theory that she will either absorb the doll Ella when they meet to regain her power (a la Deryl) OR by the time they meet, doll Ella will have become independent enough that she may want to remain separate. They might even fight if doll Ella reaches some different conclusions to Big Ella especially re:MC and his purpose. Either way, to maximise my chances I've been buttering up doll Ella in my playthrough (nothing to do with the sex scenes, I promise :sneaky:)
Yeah, there's so many ways it could go... the interesting thing about Doll Ella is that she's a version of Ella that never did anything bad to the MC, so he and his gang get to see what its like to just be friends with her without all of that baggage, and vice versa, the doll gets to be with MC without the stress of having to ruin his life (so far).

I'm so so so glad the game is independently tracking whether MC likes/hates Big Ella, whether he has feelings for her or not, and if he trusts Doll Ella or not, that shit is gonna be so messy
 

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Every time someone says that I always ask where the misinformation is.

Rarely, if ever, does someone actually point out actual misinformation so we can correct it :KEK:
The problem is we don't always know, from what I've heard anything that the Dev say's on stream that's not already in game could be lies. So it's really not as simple as "this is truth this is not".
 

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The problem is we don't always know, from what I've heard anything that the Dev say's on stream that's not already in game could be lies. So it's really not as simple as "this is truth this is not".
There is nothing on the wiki that isnt taking directly from the game, patreon rewards, or stream info. If there is let us know and it can be corrected. If anything weird says is disproved or retconned in the game the wiki is usually updated to reflect that.
 

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Part of me still believes that 'Big Ella' is around, either waiting to be awoken or already alive and hiding.
I have a theory that she will either absorb the doll Ella when they meet to regain her power (a la Deryl) OR by the time they meet, doll Ella will have become independent enough that she may want to remain separate. They might even fight if doll Ella reaches some different conclusions to Big Ella especially re:MC and his purpose. Either way, to maximise my chances I've been buttering up doll Ella in my playthrough (nothing to do with the sex scenes, I promise :sneaky:)
yeah agree with this theory, just got to the part again where she is on the slab post nyx and honestly she looks just like her she does when she shrugs off malik e.g. unmoving statue which makes me think she is just waiting for the death energy from nyx to die down then she will wake up on a slab somewhere in hero hq
 
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yeah agree with this theory, just got to the part again where she is on the slab post nyx and honestly she looks just like her she does when she shrugs off malik e.g. unmoving statue which makes me think she is just waiting for the death energy from nyx to die down then she will wake up on a slab somewhere in hero hq
I have a similar theory: I think that Ella genuinely is dead, but she plans on using the MC's powers to revive her. What we've seen of Ella's inner monologue is that "the one" was being evaluated as a potential host for...something, we don't know. For a while I thought that was the Eye, but we know now the Eye was already with the MC and not something Ella could influence. But Ella did tell Cole that she would give literally everything of herself to her chosen one, in a way that he interpreted as romantic but to me sounded sacrificial.

I think Ella wants the MC to eat her brains. Like he can do with Bailey, and how Bailey now lives on inside his mind if he does. Making him a host for Ella, and giving everything of Ella to the MC. I think that's why Ella baited out an attack from Nyx, not because she could survive it but because it would guarantee an intact corpse for the MC to eat. Ella wouldn't get that with Malik or Nico. She's not waiting for the negative energy to fade so she can stand up, she's waiting for it to fade so the MC can finally indulge his curiosity and eat Ella's brains to learn all her secrets, letting her in in the process.

From there, I'm not sure what will happen. Either Ella is going to just be a presence in the MC's head, guiding him and meaning that combined with Doll Ella on his shoulder he has her in stereo. She did say that she thought the MC would be on her side eventually, maybe she's planning that access to her memories will sway him. Or maybe she'll try to hijack his powers to build a new body for herself, like Bailey said she thinks the MC can do for her. Heck, maybe both, trying the first and then going to the second if she can't convince him.

It's not an ironclad theory, I don't have a ton of evidence for it, but it makes sense to me. Also, it has the fun implication that Cole could never have been "the one", no matter how strong he got, because he just doesn't have the right powers. And things that make Cole's obsession more pathetic are always good in my book.
 

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I have a similar theory: I think that Ella genuinely is dead, but she plans on using the MC's powers to revive her. What we've seen of Ella's inner monologue is that "the one" was being evaluated as a potential host for...something, we don't know. For a while I thought that was the Eye, but we know now the Eye was already with the MC and not something Ella could influence. But Ella did tell Cole that she would give literally everything of herself to her chosen one, in a way that he interpreted as romantic but to me sounded sacrificial.

I think Ella wants the MC to eat her brains. Like he can do with Bailey, and how Bailey now lives on inside his mind if he does. Making him a host for Ella, and giving everything of Ella to the MC. I think that's why Ella baited out an attack from Nyx, not because she could survive it but because it would guarantee an intact corpse for the MC to eat. Ella wouldn't get that with Malik or Nico. She's not waiting for the negative energy to fade so she can stand up, she's waiting for it to fade so the MC can finally indulge his curiosity and eat Ella's brains to learn all her secrets, letting her in in the process.

From there, I'm not sure what will happen. Either Ella is going to just be a presence in the MC's head, guiding him and meaning that combined with Doll Ella on his shoulder he has her in stereo. She did say that she thought the MC would be on her side eventually, maybe she's planning that access to her memories will sway him. Or maybe she'll try to hijack his powers to build a new body for herself, like Bailey said she thinks the MC can do for her. Heck, maybe both, trying the first and then going to the second if she can't convince him.

It's not an ironclad theory, I don't have a ton of evidence for it, but it makes sense to me. Also, it has the fun implication that Cole could never have been "the one", no matter how strong he got, because he just doesn't have the right powers. And things that make Cole's obsession more pathetic are always good in my book.
I like it. She obviously had contingencies in place, and it would be foolish to think the doll was the only one. So wouldn't surprise me if she would pull something like that.
 
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