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harem.king
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No, talk to the healer in the part and ask about monster friends. You will find out Sin has been mind controlling monsters. Healer complains that valraven was somehow immune into being made friendly.
Their greatest asset is their servile ring creature that gives them teleportation demiplane creation. And that one is just handled as a literal tool and apparently is the most heavily mind controlled monster in their roster.
However, some monsters are less controllable than others (estheth), especially with the death of ella (explicitly when they lost the ability to prevent estheth from eating humans).
hero's path seems more unsustainable due to the sheer quantity of monsters. once the colonization of earth starts in earnest they look like they will be overwhelmed rather quickly.
sin has more points of failure. single individuals without which the organization crumbles.
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Wizardruss
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Started playing the game for the porn, stayed for the story. Massive W to the game creator.
I think we're moving towards HERO breaking apart. It doesn't matter how powerful SIN gets because the Captains exist
Also there are clear ideological differences between them. Also with Tiffany reaffirming her decision to kill Dexter, that will upset the balance further if she is successful
Also there are clear ideological differences between them. Also with Tiffany reaffirming her decision to kill Dexter, that will upset the balance further if she is successful
Virulenz
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Hmm...could one of the peeping toms tell me if there is any difference codewise?
I mean, either you fight and get the infos about the leading S class from the dog or you get a bunch of stuff that leads to the moon, both useful intel, but which is better? Are there different points?
I mean, either you fight and get the infos about the leading S class from the dog or you get a bunch of stuff that leads to the moon, both useful intel, but which is better? Are there different points?
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Each piece of intel gives money and herorecruit points. The herorecruit points are not used currently, so I suppose they will become relevant down the line to determine MC's standing with HERO.
If you don't fight, you can get a few more herorecruit points, but I think the difference is not important. It's something like 8 (fight, take the power drug) to 11 (don't fight, find all clues).
I haven't checked what happens if SIN get suspicious. I think you lose the chance to report on how the ceremony works, but I'm not sure if you gain anything in return.
Virulenz
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Thx, so my initial decision to fight was the right one...personally i want to get rid of hero AND sin, i'm not a fan of getting orders ^^
Healer is your typical hippy idiot who cant make friends with humans, so he tried to befriend monsters. Truth is - SIN present their S class monster (Estheth) as example of coexistence between humankind and monsters...while in reality this monster do whatever she want and nobody in SIN is able to stop it. She just eat twins to the point where it leaked in TV just because Twins are delicious. Thats it. Earth for this monster is just one big mealfeast and SIN are the ones who provide it with food. Great example of coexistence!
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So in the end SIN just help Estheth and others like her to consume humanity
You need just to kill main ones
Danger from SIN is that they can overrun HERO. I mean, whole point of bringing HERO to the public was to bring new recruits, because old HERO members cant be everywhere at same time. But if SIN join this game...Yeh, they may be weak, but they have numbers and if HERO concentrate attention on them, then who would take out monsters?
I've never been edged as hard as the end of content for this update.
Def worth playing I'd say the best game on the site by far.
not really animated fight scenes but you'll never be disappointed in a set piece.
and the most important thing of all NTR is indeed avoidable.
one is NTR and the bottom right is if you kill the monster in the C rank mission
Partly, yes bringing HERO public was to give the illusion that people have a choice when it comes to recruitment but it was also strategic. Now there's no need to waste time and effort concealing their existence and the existence of monsters.
As (I think it was Malik) tells MC, as long as Bernhardt exists, they can battle the monster threat pretty much indefinitely. But it would be a stalemate
Clark tells the group that the goal is to have at least 2 level threes per sector to patrol and keep the public safe
It all comes down to the captains being too op. There's no real threat or conflict right now
I don't think anything actually reduces your corruption.
Virulenz
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Erm, hero and sin are pretty much the same, they just use different methods.
Sin has the oath and hero their threats to keep their people in check.
Sin controls monsters to use their powers, hero performs an autopsy to extract their powers.
Hero abuses you to create a public image far from the truth, sin recruits the rest with the propaganda of freedom, especially from hero.
Both create new superhumans.
Both dont care about humans because both have a genocide agenda. For sin humans are recruits, monsterfood or both, for hero they are recruits or failed experiments.
Both lust for power and control without caring about collateral damage.
Both placed people in the hightest human ranks.
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The only one who cares about humans- or at least human girls is the MC.
Sin has the oath and hero their threats to keep their people in check.
Sin controls monsters to use their powers, hero performs an autopsy to extract their powers.
Hero abuses you to create a public image far from the truth, sin recruits the rest with the propaganda of freedom, especially from hero.
Both create new superhumans.
Both dont care about humans because both have a genocide agenda. For sin humans are recruits, monsterfood or both, for hero they are recruits or failed experiments.
Both lust for power and control without caring about collateral damage.
Both placed people in the hightest human ranks.
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The only one who cares about humans- or at least human girls is the MC.
1. Clark also tell that because of overwhelming numbers of monster attacks - he barely have time to get proper sleep or eat. Combine SIN agents to this mess...
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2.Even for most important large scale attack on Ella hideout (battle of thousand Diamonds) HERO was able to put on the ground only 2 Captains with their teams. Against several S class monsters and Ella herself. This cost hight casualties (doubt that HERO actually care about normal footsoldiers, but 37 superhumans, some of which were pretty strong including 1 lieutenant). All of this happened while SIN agents were slacking off and enjoy pop-corn. But what if they join the battle with world-scale attack in order to thin HERO forces (force them to spread out)?
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3.Yep. SIN lacking in terms of individual power (lvl 5 Super humans). At least from all we know about them so far (they could have 1-2 5 lvl superhumans inside their inner circle). But as we know from this update - they compensate it with tons of S-rank monsters (and they have big numbers of monsters which could overrun HERO if SIN decide to release them all at once) but what most important - they have at least 5-7 intelligent S rank monsters like Estheth and as Zack said - they are very dangerous foes who can become a challenge even for a Captain
Well in case of HERO - they did not abuse their power for 50+ years. I mean Dexter is just a Premier Minister of one Sector . He is not a Supreme Minister and its not like many HERO agents infiltrate inside World Government (to the point where half of their most important members are part of SIN inner circle)
harem.king
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So what?
He is still a source of information, and while he believes he is "making friends" with monsters.
Any child can deduce from his description of events that Sin is using mind control on the monsters.
Which makes sense, because Sin is ALSO explicitly using mind control on their human recruits
In one of the branches you talk to the red ghost guy (landon IIRC) and he admits that this is just bullshit they tell the new recruits because estheth looks sexy and they want those guys to think with their dick
According to Shen they lost control over her when Ella died and he plans on do something about Estheth when he or Cole reaches level 5.
my impression here is that you didn't really explore all the branches of the time loop during the SIN infiltration event
Yeah, i get that HERO is problematic and should be critiziced and changed but its FAR better than it could be. Any real-world organisation with this level of power and capabilitys would behave far worse. My guess is most serious intelligence agencys in the real world behave worse.
They could control the whole world with ease already if they would have ever tried but its not their goal. And they were able to create a organisation where single inviduals who are more powerful than everything imagineable are keeping each other in check and are working together.
We cant really judge and compare Hero to our world where monsters doesnt exist. But however bad they maybe, SIN is for sure far worse. Just look at their dimension, thats how the world would look like under their reign.
They get used by intelligent monsters and are to arrogant to even realise it. It was different with ella i guess, more like a deal for both sides and both knowing they have different goals.
Let s say - he is naive stupid child, who view world in pink colors with pony and rainbows
How it change the fact that SIN basicly help those creatures to conquer Earth?
Truth is - THEY NEVER HAD CONTROL FROM THE START. Basicly this means - Estheth could beat their ass (or eat them alive)
if they even think about oppose her urges. They even fail to take weakling like Valvaran under control. Estheth did whatever she want and until certain point of time her needs just werent so hard to hide. Rest of sentient Monsters are the same as Estheth
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And we dont mention rouge monsters who hunt people on daily basis
I support that. What i mean - SIN present real threat to HERO. Threat that is taken very lightly until now. HERO must do something huge in order to escape War on two fronts which probably would be hard to win if not deadly for whole world. Now HERO need somehow rapidly improve their ground troops (1-3 lvl agents) so they could stay for themself and protect area from monsters or SIN agents attacks, while HERO Big Shots (captains and lieutenant) would manage main threat (S-rank monsters and top SIN members)
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As it is for now - HERO recruit big numbers of civilians and lets be fair - at least 50% of them are not suited for combat mentally ( and i doubt that they are OK with killing humans = SIN agents). On contrast SIN recruit former soldiers, assassins, mercenaries, etc - people who have actual combat experience or at least serve in military, police, all that kind of organisations. Needles to say that they are by far better troops, then HERO have (this is why i think it would be wise for HERO to hire Mett into their ranks as field commander officer and make Michail Chief instructor for incoming recruits)