RabbidSupreme

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Friendly reminder that the move that ultimately won the 1st round with Cole was first used to fuck Liz

But besides that the true determining factor is compatibility with your monster parent. Working hard and natural talent is important sure, but those are all supported by the pillar of your own genetics, it's the main reason why Alice has so much firepower and why Jake was more or less equal with MC despite not doing even remotely as much as him
 
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EtherYet

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[...] strongly implies the monster parent does have a strong influence.
Maybe it's a correlation thing? There's some sort of implicit hierarchy with how Monsters act, with a lot of the higher caste being just all-around more intelligent & stronger than the ones at the bottom, I don't think it'd be a stretch to assume that the Monster that sires is a factor too, but that the reason why the people with 'stronger monster parents' tend to be best isn't because of the monster parent, but that the better Monsters simply go for the people with most potential in the first place

If Ella can gauge how compatible people are - and how much potential for growth they have - I figure some monsters might be able to do the same, and those that either have high standards or 'need' strong children just go for the best possible ones because that's just what makes the most sense.

Personally I think genes aside after you've already become a Superhuman, your mind is the main factor, and I think Ella got that far as a Superhuman because she both 1. Has a good mentality and 2. Enough knowledge to pretty much min-max her stats. So far a common theme with strong characters is that they have something that just 'clicks' within them and that originality links up with a motivator and that's what separates them from strong to top tier, and I don't think that heavily depends on the monster.

Then again if your powers are exceptionally ass you'd probably have a much smaller chance of being able to grow anyway, so there's that, LOL.
 

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Friendly reminder that the move that ultimately won the 1st round with Cole was first used to fuck Liz

But besides that the true determining factor is compatibility with your monster parent. Working hard and natural talent is important sure, but those are all supported by the pillar of your own genetics, it's the main reason why Alice has so much firepower and why Jake was more or less equal with MC despite not doing even remotely as much him
To a degree, but Michael was noted by Ella as not having great compatibility with Power (his sire), which is why she originally gave him the pill to lure the leigong.
 
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OnlineRando

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To a degree, but Michael was noted by Ella as not having great compatibility with Power (his sire), which is why she originally gave him the pill to lure the leigong.
That is not true. She only said he wasn't an exact match, not that he isn't compatible. The wording makes the difference between being in the 70 to 80% range and not the 90%+, and between being around or even below 60%.

And in the end, Michael would've probably been stronger by having Leigong's powers.

Sure, on paper, Power is a superior ability to Lightning. More versatile, broader, and coming from one of the most impressive beings we know of... but Truth would also be the same when compared to Aerokinesis, and we all know how that fight went.
 

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That is not true. She only said he wasn't an exact match, not that he isn't compatible. The wording makes the difference between being in the 70 to 80% range and not the 90%+, and between being around or even below 60%.

And in the end, Michael would've probably been stronger by having Leigong's powers.

Sure, on paper, Power is a superior ability to Lightning. More versatile, broader, and coming from one of the most impressive beings we know of... but Truth would also be the same when compared to Aerokinesis, and we all know how that fight went.
Alright so to start off I haven't watched any of WW's streams so if anything he's said during those goes against what I'm about to say I apologize in advance, I'm going purely off what I've seen in game (Which according to a previous user is the only accurate source since apparently WW said anything he says could be lies?)

The degree of power a Superhuman can access is determined primarily by 1: Their compatibility with the monster that infected them, 2: Their effort to growing stronger, 3: Their mindset since apparently that has a big impact on how your power takes shape/grows. There's a bunch of other factors but from what I understand being the spawn of an Apostle does NOT make you automatically stronger then everyone else, an example being almost all of the current Evo 5's in Hero, the majority of them aren't spawns of Apostles and yet are drastically stronger then the vast majority of things we've seen thus far, this directly proves the point that the strength of the monster that turns you doesn't dictate your overall growth or your limits. Now that's not to say it's meaningless since obviously some powers are stronger than other's, but in general it isn't the main dictator of how strong you'll become.

At the very least this's my interpretation on it based on what I encountered in game, hope it's of some use in understanding things.
 

OnlineRando

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Alright so to start off I haven't watched any of WW's streams so if anything he's said during those goes against what I'm about to say I apologize in advance, I'm going purely off what I've seen in game (Which according to a previous user is the only accurate source since apparently WW said anything he says could be lies?)

The degree of power a Superhuman can access is determined primarily by 1: Their compatibility with the monster that infected them, 2: Their effort to growing stronger, 3: Their mindset since apparently that has a big impact on how your power takes shape/grows. There's a bunch of other factors but from what I understand being the spawn of an Apostle does NOT make you automatically stronger then everyone else, an example being almost all of the current Evo 5's in Hero, the majority of them aren't spawns of Apostles and yet are drastically stronger then the vast majority of things we've seen thus far, this directly proves the point that the strength of the monster that turns you doesn't dictate your overall growth or your limits. Now that's not to say it's meaningless since obviously some powers are stronger than other's, but in general it isn't the main dictator of how strong you'll become.

At the very least this's my interpretation on it based on what I encountered in game, hope it's of some use in understanding things.
Yeah. How compatible you are with your power, how genetically suitable you are towards being a superhuman, your mindset, and your effort, are all the things that affect your strength the most. Although some powers are obviously stronger. No matter how much Angelina levels or how compatible she is with her monster, she is NOT getting beyond that trash tier. Even if they invented level six just for her, everything she will have is physical strength, and even that just barely. She just isn't suited for combat.

It is for that reason apostle traits are superior; within their field, their versatility is simply unmatched. They aren't limited to being one thing. MC isn't limited to producing breast milk buff potions, or to just reading memories.

But other than that, they aren't too extraordinary. The combat potency of, say, Memory, isn't much different from that of a Memory derived ability that lets you, say, make your opponent incapable of remembering anything. Sure, pure memory can do that, but the other ability would do that better. The advantage comes from the sheer amount of other stuff it can do.

Also I'd just like to say, it's truly a testament to how good this game is that there's so much conversation about the lore.
Yeah for sure. Literally "came for porn, stayed for the plot".
 

OmegaAlpga

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she is NOT getting beyond that trash tier.
What are you talking about? At level 6, her boobs are going to be the size of entire universes! She could just breast-slap enemies out of existence—one swing and poof, gone lol! I doubt any character could survive universe-sized tiddies crashing down on them… not to mention the absolute tsunami of breast milk that would follow.
 

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What are you talking about? At level 6, her boobs are going to be the size of entire universes! She could just breast-slap enemies out of existence—one swing and poof, gone lol! I doubt any character could survive universe-sized tiddies crashing down on them… not to mention the absolute tsunami of breast milk that would follow.
Is her ultimate ability gonna be called something like "Milky Way Drive"?
 

johndqdo

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Hi guys! When do you think the next update will drop?

I've decided to wait more than a year to have the best experience, and I plan to play version 1.0 - the version that will update the models at the beginning of the game - which I think will be the next one.
 

txe320

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Hi guys! When do you think the next update will drop?

I've decided to wait more than a year to have the best experience, and I plan to play version 1.0 - the version that will update the models at the beginning of the game - which I think will be the next one.
It won't be the next one for sure. If you are waiting for that, we don't know when it will be.
 

KingAgamemnon

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Hi guys! When do you think the next update will drop?

I've decided to wait more than a year to have the best experience, and I plan to play version 1.0 - the version that will update the models at the beginning of the game - which I think will be the next one.
We thought it was going to be the one after the next, but WW seems to believe that the next few updates won't be the v1.0 update. There's currently no ETA other than maybe after some ways into the next arc.
 

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Gonna go through the list of early game characters, and assess their likelihood of being story relevant again.

Angelina - Low. She has an interesting powerset, but seems to be the exception to the rule that "bigger tits = bigger role". I've speculated that Angelina, among others, might be a success check for when the MC eventually breaks free from H.E.R.O., and she'll likely have a background role in that case. Not main story material imo.

Jess - High. Her former relationship with Jared all but guarantees that she'll make a reappearance. She also has a bunch of variables checking her romance progress. I don't think she's going to be a superhuman, but she will be story relevant again, almost certainly.

Tess - Low to middle. I do not think she'll have the same degree of importance as Jess will, but I can see her entering a relationship proper with Deryl. Plus she is a trio with Alice and Jess, and so while I don't see her being story relevant, I can see her becoming a background character.

Emily - High. All but guaranteed that she's going to be a superhuman, and a powerful one at that. What more is there to say?

Shadow - Stop it. Get some help. She's a old dog that's probably on her last legs as is.

Mia - Middle to high. Regardless of whether you saved Jake or not, the ramifications of what happened with her psyche will need to be addressed at some point. I think the only reason she hasn't made a proper reappearance is because Patreon thinks she's underage b&. So we're waiting on Mia getting an art rework to "age her up". As far as being a main character? Mmmm, might be a stretch.

Tiffany - High. Not much to say.

Claudia - High. Also not much to say here either.

Jared - High. He's gonna walk his walk, but we'll deal with him when the time comes. Probably fuck Jess in front of him too.

Jake - Low. If you've spared him, his mind is broken enough that he likely will not be able to progress past Level 2. He may have bits with Mia, but I don't expect much.

Laurie - Low. Same reason as Jake, can't be too important if she can die, but might have a handful of scenes.

Danica - Low to middle. Danica is a bit weird, cause if I'm not mistaken she does have romance variables, but is a killable character. Makes this hard to judge.

Brianna - High. She's probably going to play a much more significant role when the MC leaves H.E.R.O. and may even act as his in with the police.

Christie - Middle to high. Her connection to the MC and Ella and Emily all but guarantees she'll be important, but its clear superhumanism is not in the cards for her. She can serve alongside Jess as another grounded human perspective.

Demi - Middle to high. Despite being another college girl that hasn't seen much appearance, she is notable for having a game over specifically if you kill her. I think Demi is a character that will become much more relevant later on in the story. Don't sleep on her abilities. There's also the fact that, like Brianna might be the MC's in to the police/government, Demi will probably command his appearance in the eyes of the public.

Clover - Low to middle. Closeness to Demi gives her points, but there's not a whole lot to work with here. Her story seems mostly finished, but I can see her popping up for a sex scene or two.

Jeff - High? Bet you forgot about him, but apparently he and the MC's dad and Aos have been up to shenanigans in the background. Will be nice to learn what that's all about.

Markus - Middle to high. Alice's dad is very interesting. I imagine he's taken over the family in the absence of Alice, but his condition is still a bit of a mystery. I think he might be relevant in the future again.

Nikki - Low. Probably not seeing the femboy from the prison again.

Suicide Wang - Oh god. I killed his ass, but the thought of him appearing again has me shaking. I don't know. It could happen. Maybe just the threat of Wang reappearing again is enough suspense. I don't trust it. I had to kill him.

I believe that's all. Everyone else is either too obvious to mention, or hasn't stood out enough for me to remember.
 

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Gonna go through the list of early game characters, and assess their likelihood of being story relevant again.

Angelina - Low. She has an interesting powerset, but seems to be the exception to the rule that "bigger tits = bigger role". I've speculated that Angelina, among others, might be a success check for when the MC eventually breaks free from H.E.R.O., and she'll likely have a background role in that case. Not main story material imo.

Jess - High. Her former relationship with Jared all but guarantees that she'll make a reappearance. She also has a bunch of variables checking her romance progress. I don't think she's going to be a superhuman, but she will be story relevant again, almost certainly.

Tess - Low to middle. I do not think she'll have the same degree of importance as Jess will, but I can see her entering a relationship proper with Deryl. Plus she is a trio with Alice and Jess, and so while I don't see her being story relevant, I can see her becoming a background character.

Emily - High. All but guaranteed that she's going to be a superhuman, and a powerful one at that. What more is there to say?

Shadow - Stop it. Get some help. She's a old dog that's probably on her last legs as is.

Mia - Middle to high. Regardless of whether you saved Jake or not, the ramifications of what happened with her psyche will need to be addressed at some point. I think the only reason she hasn't made a proper reappearance is because Patreon thinks she's underage b&. So we're waiting on Mia getting an art rework to "age her up". As far as being a main character? Mmmm, might be a stretch.

Tiffany - High. Not much to say.

Claudia - High. Also not much to say here either.

Jared - High. He's gonna walk his walk, but we'll deal with him when the time comes. Probably fuck Jess in front of him too.

Jake - Low. If you've spared him, his mind is broken enough that he likely will not be able to progress past Level 2. He may have bits with Mia, but I don't expect much.

Laurie - Low. Same reason as Jake, can't be too important if she can die, but might have a handful of scenes.

Danica - Low to middle. Danica is a bit weird, cause if I'm not mistaken she does have romance variables, but is a killable character. Makes this hard to judge.

Brianna - High. She's probably going to play a much more significant role when the MC leaves H.E.R.O. and may even act as his in with the police.

Christie - Middle to high. Her connection to the MC and Ella and Emily all but guarantees she'll be important, but its clear superhumanism is not in the cards for her. She can serve alongside Jess as another grounded human perspective.

Demi - Middle to high. Despite being another college girl that hasn't seen much appearance, she is notable for having a game over specifically if you kill her. I think Demi is a character that will become much more relevant later on in the story. Don't sleep on her abilities. There's also the fact that, like Brianna might be the MC's in to the police/government, Demi will probably command his appearance in the eyes of the public.

Clover - Low to middle. Closeness to Demi gives her points, but there's not a whole lot to work with here. Her story seems mostly finished, but I can see her popping up for a sex scene or two.

Jeff - High? Bet you forgot about him, but apparently he and the MC's dad and Aos have been up to shenanigans in the background. Will be nice to learn what that's all about.

Markus - Middle to high. Alice's dad is very interesting. I imagine he's taken over the family in the absence of Alice, but his condition is still a bit of a mystery. I think he might be relevant in the future again.

Nikki - Low. Probably not seeing the femboy from the prison again.

Suicide Wang - Oh god. I killed his ass, but the thought of him appearing again has me shaking. I don't know. It could happen. Maybe just the threat of Wang reappearing again is enough suspense. I don't trust it. I had to kill him.

I believe that's all. Everyone else is either too obvious to mention, or hasn't stood out enough for me to remember.
"Aging up" Mia is so easy. Like MC, while his case was special as his growth was sealed by his mom and his appearance now would have been his normal one if nothing happened in his childhood, she would grow easily by converting to a superhuman.
Tess is not getting on with Deryl, and given that we are coming back with quite a time jump, the whole world is into the shits and I bet Tess is already a superhuman. In this next arc, after returning to earth, I would bet we would start collecting our merry friends to make our own faction in or out of Hero.
 

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"Aging up" Mia is so easy. Like MC, while his case was special as his growth was sealed by his mom and his appearance now would have been his normal one if nothing happened in his childhood, she would grow easily by converting to a superhuman.
Tess is not getting on with Deryl, and given that we are coming back with quite a time jump, the whole world is into the shits and I bet Tess is already a superhuman. In this next arc, after returning to earth, I would bet we would start collecting our merry friends to make our own faction in or out of Hero.
Mia is an easy solve, I agree. I'm not sure I believe that Tess will be a superhuman. I could potentially see it, but it would definitely come out of left field. I also agree that the MC will leave H.E.R.O. in the near future. Narratively, we have to in quick order, otherwise Bramon will definitely administer the MC the evolution serum, and it is way to early to be thinking about Level 5 MC. I think in the next arc or two, we might see the beginnings of discontent. The leaders are already questioning the MC's value, and once he hits Level 4 (probably in the next update if you ask me), their leaders will be even more unkind to the defiance he will present.
 
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