emejejjdm

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If that’s the case, then those two, Bernhardt Gunvald and Malik Drexel also each carry one of those deities, right? Something I rewatched recently was Bernhardt’s fight against Eisheth Zenunim. She starts off mocking him because, according to her, his two subordinates had stronger origins than him. But the moment he turns his gaze toward her… she literally trembles in fear so intensely that she uses the humans as hostages to stop him from even moving, just because of the sheer dread of him standing there!! And she’s supposed to be the fucking chosen of an Apostle, a hyper-powerful monster, yet he treated her like absolute trash. She’s stunned, saying it should be impossible, that someone with that level of power shouldn’t exist there, and she gets defeated right when she’s about to mention the only ones who supposedly could beat him.


So yeah, aside from the evolutions, it seems there are individuals carrying these divine entities inside them and that seems like a completely unprecedented, totally overpowered game-changer.

If that’s the case, and many of the characters we’ve seen already have these gods inside them, then maybe Lochan also carries one of those ancient deities connected to time. That would make sense considering what he said about the MC’s memories being mistaken. He’s not a spawn of time or a chosen one, just a vessel for a deity.
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We already know that the Monsters that infected Berny and Malik were just weak c-class monsters, so they have no connection to any gods as far as we know. Syla does say that lesser spawn can manifest strange abilities as they evolve that can surpass what greater spawn can do, so it seems like Berny and Malik are just perfect examples of that.
 

Dmoll007

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I believe you are confusing the Ocean Lord with the Great Ocean.

The Great Ocean is the thing that infected Amber; a galaxy-sized ocean.

The Ocean Lord was the king of the Seahumans, husband to the Sky Queen. The seahuman remnant that we met with Henri said that someone like Henri "hasn't been seen since the days of our Lord". When we bust Nyx out of her dream and show her the Immaterial World, we find a ritual site, where souls of the dead are used to fuel the power of the Ocean Lord, and when she absorbs that energy she says "Light and Dark... and...". These are the reasons to suspect that Ocean Lord is Soul.
A galaxy sized ocean....Sheesh. you know there are a whole lotta things I want added cuz they would make the superhuman world so much more interesting in my perspective. I've listed down a whole buncha stuff and brainstormed about some sort of cosmology for superhuman universe.
 
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Dipasimaan

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I only come for this game to coom really but I gotta say the music is awfully compressed (which is very noticeable if you have decent audio gear), they're thankfully not mp3s at least like the files in the audio folder suggest but they're actually 32kbps opus files, which is still too low even for an efficient codec like opus, which needs at least 128kbps to be "transparent". :3
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Zekethor2

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We already know that the Monsters that infected Berny and Malik were just weak c-class monsters, so they have no connection to any gods as far as we know. Syla does say that lesser spawn can manifest strange abilities as they evolve that can surpass what greater spawn can do, so it seems like Berny and Malik are just perfect examples of that.
man... that doesn’t even come close to explaining how powerful they are. There’s a scene with the three of them flying as if they were equals, the three of the H.E.R.O. If Henri has all that power inside him, it makes zero sense to think those two just happened to get that strong by chance.

we’re talking about power on such a massive scale that even an S+ class monster like Eisheth Zenunim, not just a spawn of the 9th, but the CHOSEN of the 9th, didn’t stand a chance against him. Nothing. Zero. Do you really think the explanation that some people just get really strong is enough to justify those two? Not even close. In my opinion, the most likely explanation is that those two also have something inside them. I don’t know what it is, but that’s definitely the most plausible theory.

My theory is that, just like the Eye only manifested in the MC because he met the necessary 'requirements,' these entities only manifest in a select few in the same way, and I’m not necessarily talking about arbiters. It could be something else entirely that hasn’t been fully revealed yet. The Seahuman Remnant mentioned something about being surprised "they allowed Henri to live", which makes me think that, under certain conditions, these deities can manifest. But since their power is extremely dangerous and overwhelming, maybe the monsters or apostles use their Chosen to control them, something that in Henri’s case, didn’t happen for some reason.
 

jamouyi

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I got a theory, the brain sends signals to the rest of the body in order for it to function, which is called electrical signals, which is a form of electricity.

The MC can't handle electricity and lightning, but why isn't the MC's body imploding every time his brain tells the body to do something when the brain uses electrical signals, which is still a form of electricity?

I know electricity and lightning are a more powerful form than electrical signals, but still, he has it in his body; otherwise, what power source is the MC's brain using in place of electrical signals to tell the body what to do, and if not a different power source, why can't the MC's body adapt.

Also, why can't the mc use animals that give off electricity to combat this like electric eels etc. i know he cant touch them if they are giving off electricity but they only do that when they feel a threat and not all the time, so why cant the mc touch one when it isnt giving off electricity and take its form.

Also, MC is absorbing monster parts, can't he obtain monster parts from a monster that uses electricity ??

I know someone has had similar ideas, etc, but I am not combing through all those pages to possibly find someone talking about the same subject when I can just make one.
 

Zekethor2

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I got a theory, the brain sends signals to the rest of the body in order for it to function, which is called electrical signals, which is a form of electricity.

The MC can't handle electricity and lightning, but why isn't the MC's body imploding every time his brain tells the body to do something when the brain uses electrical signals, which is still a form of electricity?

I know electricity and lightning are a more powerful form than electrical signals, but still, he has it in his body; otherwise, what power source is the MC's brain using in place of electrical signals to tell the body what to do, and if not a different power source, why can't the MC's body adapt.

Also, why can't the mc use animals that give off electricity to combat this like electric eels etc. i know he cant touch them if they are giving off electricity but they only do that when they feel a threat and not all the time, so why cant the mc touch one when it isnt giving off electricity and take its form.

Also, MC is absorbing monster parts, can't he obtain monster parts from a monster that uses electricity ??

I know someone has had similar ideas, etc, but I am not combing through all those pages to possibly find someone talking about the same subject when I can just make one.
Okay, let's break it down. First, does the MC not handle electricity? That was true when he was level 1. Later, his body developed resistance to electricity as well, and nerve impulses have extremely low charges to cause him any damage. At level 1, the MC would get partially immobilized by very high voltage.


Now, about him using animals with electricity.... he probably can, but all superhumans have resistance to practically everything: fire, poison, electricity too. All of that scales with their level, of course. So the MC using electricity would just be... unnecessary, since the amount of electricity he could generate would be very low. There are superhumans that literally throw lightning bolts at opponents and still resist them.


The MC seems to benefit more from four things:


  • Speed/agility in movement, with that eagle form, wings and all.
  • Raw strength, like the mantis punch and the gorilla form and other strength-based forms.
  • Endurance, with armor.
  • And finally, piercing, with the tentacles.

So it makes more sense for him to evolve in what he's already good at rather than try to improvise with unnecessary stuff.
 
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Dmoll007

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I got a theory, the brain sends signals to the rest of the body in order for it to function, which is called electrical signals, which is a form of electricity.

The MC can't handle electricity and lightning, but why isn't the MC's body imploding every time his brain tells the body to do something when the brain uses electrical signals, which is still a form of electricity?

I know electricity and lightning are a more powerful form than electrical signals, but still, he has it in his body; otherwise, what power source is the MC's brain using in place of electrical signals to tell the body what to do, and if not a different power source, why can't the MC's body adapt.

Also, why can't the mc use animals that give off electricity to combat this like electric eels etc. i know he cant touch them if they are giving off electricity but they only do that when they feel a threat and not all the time, so why cant the mc touch one when it isnt giving off electricity and take its form.

Also, MC is absorbing monster parts, can't he obtain monster parts from a monster that uses electricity ??

I know someone has had similar ideas, etc, but I am not combing through all those pages to possibly find someone talking about the same subject when I can just make one.
MC or a body spawn, CAN handle electricity and lightning, its just that their shapeshifting body cannot store the huge power surge they get when they get hit by one (Cuz they absorb it), which makes their body explode. As MC gets stronger, he would definitely be able to handle lightning or find some way to pass on that huge amount of energy without getting harmed or harness that energy entirely. Iirc he isnt that vulnerable to lightning anymore, and getting exploded into smithereens doesnt affect him too much anymore, so yeah.
 

Dmoll007

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Btw, I've been thinking about this for a while and now I've realized when watching Cole's battle again.
View attachment 5075568 He describes that he has not a fully formed brain to receive information from his eyes. But he can still think, he has not any type of incongruence in his speaking (or thinking). I know this is maybe just in-game mechanics and there has to be a way to describe what is happening, but that gave me an idea for an ability awakened by lv4.

In lv1, Mc's brain explodes and it's game over. In lv2, he can withstand being cut in many pieces, his brain possibly being scrambled in the process, and regenerate back. In lv3, his body can quite literally disintegrate until only his spine remains, and he'll be able to heal back unless his spine is destroyed. What if for lv4, he doesn't need to protect his spine anymore to remain alive? That his conscience is shared through all, and I mean ALL his body, making his brain- although obviously useful, no longer needed.

For example, mind-control business would be piece of cake now that he doesn't need his brain to perform actions, if some try to mind-fuck him he could just melt his brain away. Also, I've been thinking about his forms too. When he evolved to his third, he got three main forms. Speed, Tank, and Memory. What if fourth gives him a more compact and concept-related form, such as "Body" form offering the highest of Attack, speed and defense, and a further developed "Memory" form that focus 100% now in his Memory trait. That could be cool.
You know what, I think the 4th should give him the ability to turn into gas. Im not joking, if he can become liquid, if he can shrink down to the size of a fly, then why cant he become gas? Id say this ability would require him to have a shit ton of control over his body, down to his very atoms, like Ella. Also, he should be able to shrink down to microscopic scale, maybe even smaller, that would be rad. This is where his memory powers would play a key role, it would make sure he can learn to control his new gas and microscopic body faster and easily. Speaking of memory, this evolution really needs to up his memory powers, and give him a shit tone of new cool, interesting and awesome memory abilities. The last two evolutions mostly seem to have given him new body abilities only, the memory side would be lacking if not for Syla. I will make sure to post this on the weirdguy livestream.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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I stand by my theory that Henri pretty much guided Malik and Bernhardt to Paradox. As in, they're connected it to it via their connection to him. Nyx also said something along the lines of Henri helped her somehow be better with the Immaterial World. And we know from the first Origin MC dead end, that the Arbiters, or the Origin has a plane they can connect to that fuels their power.

And the thing about Malik and Bernhardt is we learned that their monsters both have Truth and Fantasy. So if Henri has Paradox or is linked up to its plane. He can connect those two to it as well. So the already strong Bernhardt and Malik would turn out even stronger. That's the only real way to explain why they're basically so strong. Trials don't seem like the full answer since failing doesn't mean you lose it. You can do it later when you're vastly more stronger.

Meaning if Trials were the reason, the Big 3 wouldn't be special. As most of the Superhumans with the better traits, should be superior to them after completing their trials. Especially since most Chosen likely finished theirs. And if we take that as true, they're more powerful than the average Level 5 Superhuman. But not vastly above them.
 
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I got a theory, the brain sends signals to the rest of the body in order for it to function, which is called electrical signals, which is a form of electricity.

The MC can't handle electricity and lightning, but why isn't the MC's body imploding every time his brain tells the body to do something when the brain uses electrical signals, which is still a form of electricity?

I know electricity and lightning are a more powerful form than electrical signals, but still, he has it in his body; otherwise, what power source is the MC's brain using in place of electrical signals to tell the body what to do, and if not a different power source, why can't the MC's body adapt.

Also, why can't the mc use animals that give off electricity to combat this like electric eels etc. i know he cant touch them if they are giving off electricity but they only do that when they feel a threat and not all the time, so why cant the mc touch one when it isnt giving off electricity and take its form.

Also, MC is absorbing monster parts, can't he obtain monster parts from a monster that uses electricity ??

I know someone has had similar ideas, etc, but I am not combing through all those pages to possibly find someone talking about the same subject when I can just make one.
Presumably the MC's nervous system is just so low amperage that it doesn't affect him. That's not an insult to his intelligence, it's just how nerves work. A nerve cell doesn't send electricity down its length by conducting it the way a wire does, instead it uses a cascade of microscopic electrical generators called "ion channels" along the cell's surface. Each ion channel produces a charge in response to the ion channel next to it producing a charge, causing the signal to propagate down the line. This means that the actual amount of electricity going on in a nerve cell at any one time is miniscule. The MC could handle some electricity, even at level 1, so the tiny amount in his nerves shouldn't be enough to hurt him.

As for using a combination of electric eel and electric monster parts to get some electrical abilities of his own, yeah, he probably could. He actually did scan an electric eel way back at the start of the game when he was collecting morphs as the zoo. I'm expecting that will come up once he overcomes his electrical weakness for good. Some sort of super-mode that lines his body with electrogenic organs, letting him pump himself full of energy.
 

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Presumably the MC's nervous system is just so low amperage that it doesn't affect him. That's not an insult to his intelligence, it's just how nerves work. A nerve cell doesn't send electricity down its length by conducting it the way a wire does, instead it uses a cascade of microscopic electrical generators called "ion channels" along the cell's surface. Each ion channel produces a charge in response to the ion channel next to it producing a charge, causing the signal to propagate down the line. This means that the actual amount of electricity going on in a nerve cell at any one time is miniscule. The MC could handle some electricity, even at level 1, so the tiny amount in his nerves shouldn't be enough to hurt him.

As for using a combination of electric eel and electric monster parts to get some electrical abilities of his own, yeah, he probably could. He actually did scan an electric eel way back at the start of the game when he was collecting morphs as the zoo. I'm expecting that will come up once he overcomes his electrical weakness for good. Some sort of super-mode that lines his body with electrogenic organs, letting him pump himself full of energy.
I don't even think his weakness to electricity has to do with its intensity. Just like Syla, it should just be a mental thing, so if the electricity in his body isn't perceived as dangerous, it wouldn't affect him.

That's not to say a strong enough hit from electricity won't hurt him if it isn't perceived as dangerous, but it shouldn't be a weakness.
 
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Rusoskibi

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Mc couldn't use electricity when he was attacked like Prototype 2, when his shield was attacked, thorns would come out.
 

Ero genius

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Will I get anything out of saving Laurie? Anything useful other than few more dialogues and scenes with her? Like more lore, more stats, help in battles or something like that? Should I just use the mod and increase my stats so that I can save laurie? Im assuming Weirdman puts these kinda clauses for a reason and if we interfere with it using mods then it'll hurt the lore and it wouldnt make sense. Should I do it?
Just do it if you like the character.
 

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I stand by my theory that Henri pretty much guided Malik and Bernhardt to Paradox. As in, they're connected it to it via their connection to him. Nyx also said something along the lines of Henri helped her somehow be better with the Immaterial World. And we know from the first Origin MC dead end, that the Arbiters, or the Origin has a plane they can connect to that fuels their power.

And the thing about Malik and Bernhardt is we learned that their monsters both have Truth and Fantasy. So if Henri has Paradox or is linked up to its plane. He can connect those two to it as well. So the already strong Bernhardt and Malik would turn out even stronger. That's the only real way to explain why they're basically so strong. Trials don't seem like the full answer since failing doesn't mean you lose it. You can do it later when you're vastly more stronger.

Meaning if Trials were the reason, the Big 3 wouldn't be special. As most of the Superhumans with the better traits, should be superior to them after completing their trials. Especially since most Chosen likely finished theirs. And if we take that as true, they're more powerful than the average Level 5 Superhuman. But not vastly above them.
According to WW, Jake and Alice were on the path to becoming like the Big 3, so no I don't feel this applies.
 
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Hi guys, I have a theory about *ella* and her dead body. The theory is that she is creating bodies of herself where the apostles of the body and memory can enter so that in MC's eyes they can devour those bodies and evolution can be born, since it is strange that *ella* brought her body to perfection and not only that, her body is in perfect condition due to the power of Nyx, which would make her body an empty shell that they can enter. But that also leaves me with more questions, since the body of memory would be missing.
Sorry if I didn't explain myself well, my language is not English.
 
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DrakoGhoul

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According to WW, Jake and Alice were on the path to becoming like the Big 3, so no I don't feel this applies.
Yeah, if you ignore that WW said Alice would never be as strong as Malik or Bernhardt. Even if she completed all of her trials and had the same amount of time as a superhuman. Basically, WW isn't the go to here and whatever path you think he's referring to. It's likely related to something completely unknown to us. At least in regards to Alice. Jake had the potential for Order.
 
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tombeir

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Just wanted to know if anyone knows how much more story' is left after the latest update? Are we close to the end of the game? Will the mc ever reach level 4 and 5?
 
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