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Hi guys, I just download the latest version in here. Billy has a mother but no sister in the game. Do you have the same problem?
And how to recruit 2 more members to the NCHDL (it's a group or something right?).
Sister must be enable when you create character.
 
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khumak

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So someone with Austin Power's libido doesn't care who his partners are or who they do besides him? I beg to differ. As long as a person with an excess of lust can get his/her rocks off on time, they could very well still care a lot about what happens with those peple. Only when it's left unattended for too long, that person would do anyone and not care. But in the game, that part is covered by the public masturbation event instead. So I say Billy can still care.

As for mind control, I will give you that most of its applications would be evil. On the other hand, stopping a fight (or a crime) by forcibly calming people down, helping people with addictions and so on could be a grey area. Imagine for a moment that the Cuban Missile Crisis actually ended because someone 'convinced' Russia to back off. Or that someone 'convinced' England that the price of taking back the American colonies was too great. Would that have been evil? Tempting fate, changing what was meant to be, maybe. But evil?
Also, using mind control allows for someone to get their rocks off without the need to harm the person they are with, and they can make them forget afterwards. Still considered evil-ish, but it causes less harm (physical and psychological) than forceful options.

And yes, I put a lot of thought in this. I've written many erotic stories focusing on these fetishes and like any geek, I regularly wonder what I'd be like if I had such abilities. I would likely do a lot of good, while acting from the shadows to avoid those who would do me harm. But I'd still be having an above average amount of sex with women I'd normally not be with. And they'd all be very happy and very exclusive. And I'd always leave them better than how I found them.

Carl Jung speaks of our shadow, the traits of ourselves that society tells us are bad. Things like aggression, lust and a need to dominate others. My experience is if you suppress them for too long, they burst out when you least expect them, leading to most crimes of passion in the world. But if you appease them in a controlled fashion, nobody gets hurt.

But it's all academic. The lure of things like mind control is great and it would take a lot of self-control not to go over to the downside of the Schwarz. Give me telekinesis and I'd probably feel up random strangers up in the train...
One thing I think that may be missing from this game regarding morality is corruption for the MC. At the beginning of the game he strikes me as your average, run of the mill 98 pound weakling/nerd. After he gets his first injection he's got the lust flaw. That's going to tempt him to use his powers to satisfy that flaw, but the way the flaws work in this game he has full access to do whatever he wants with his powers as soon as he gets them. He doesn't first have to become evil or corrupted before he can make his mom and his sister have sex with him for example.

I do think power corrupts though, and the more you have the more it would take to resit that corruption. I could see someone with massive amounts of power tending toward evil as his power grows but I don't think it would happen immediately like that. I think it's more likely that it would just get a little easier to use his powers to get what he wants as time goes on and every time he does it he's willing to go a little further than before.

Maybe right after his injection he can't resist using his xray vision to see all the girls naked but would never consider making them do something against their will. Then he gets Mind Control and figures it can't hurt if he tells them how hot they look, but don't they think they'd look even hotter if they showed a little skin?

You know, a little extra money sure would be nice though... Maybe they wouldn't mind giving me some extra lunch money once in awhile... After all, he's protecting the school so it's the least they could do.

Mom coming home drunk all the time is starting to piss me off though. Maybe I should teach her a lesson... Same goes for that hot friend she brings home drunk sometimes. Then he gets Sympathetic Link and thinks, hmm if it's ok to have a little fun with mom, why not sis too? By now he's probably thinking anyone with a skirt is fair game whether they want to or not.
 

ralph_on_me

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Oow man thats good to hear.
i dont know how many , but many pages back when gender bender was
only known by pre allowdknege (before it was actually put in game) I
decided i didnt wanna play as a female.
But those time i also didnt know that i loose the abbility to have " normal''
sex with Nicky .
So it s great news for me , and i guess not only for me but many others as well.

Maybe even better are your words ''in a couple days''
With gender bender you still play as billy, but on occasion you'll be temporarily able to shift into Billy Jean. Its not a permanent thing, and you can't keep it up for long. Its kind of like clenching your butt cheeks. You can do it for awhile, but you can't hold it forever.
 

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Hi guys, I just download the latest version in here. Billy has a mother but no sister in the game. Do you have the same problem?
And how to recruit 2 more members to the NCHDL (it's a group or something right?).
You apparently didn't select her. You can add her with a console command

player.perk_sister=True
 

Darting run

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You apparently didn't select her. You can add her with a console command

player.perk_sister=True
So the game actually allow us selecting her from the start and I somehow missed it? Or it's something can only be activated by coding? Is her Kelly, the one being too young at school?

Hi guys, found it. I didn't click it. Thanks.
 

djustmie

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With gender bender you still play as billy, but on occasion you'll be temporarily able to shift into Billy Jean. Its not a permanent thing, and you can't keep it up for long. Its kind of like clenching your butt cheeks. You can do it for awhile, but you can't hold it forever.
Well if i dont wanna restart ( and i dont) its to late anyway. The choise aint reverseable..
But altough i think its a pitty to miss a lot off content i still am a chauvenistic mail pig and not a sissy crossdresser or genderbender.
Also never play fetish path with sister since i discovered i have to be a sort of loonatic in womans clothes
:'( :) :p
 

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So the game actually allow us selecting her from the start and I somehow missed it? Or it's something can only be activated by coding? Is her Kelly, the one being too young at school?

Hi guys, found it. I didn't click it. Thanks.
Allie is the one who they say is too young.
 

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With console commands, it's possible to try out all the polymorph options. Just keep resetting your polymorph skill to 0, then buy the ranks again. You'll get the shapeshifting option that night.
 

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So someone with Austin Power's libido doesn't care who his partners are or who they do besides him? I beg to differ. As long as a person with an excess of lust can get his/her rocks off on time, they could very well still care a lot about what happens with those peple. Only when it's left unattended for too long, that person would do anyone and not care. But in the game, that part is covered by the public masturbation event instead. So I say Billy can still care.
Billy still has empathy but is also dominated by the science that created him so while he can care, it's up to the player to do that with the alignment shifts that make the girls wilder as a result.

As for mind control, I will give you that most of its applications would be evil. On the other hand, stopping a fight (or a crime) by forcibly calming people down, helping people with addictions and so on could be a grey area. Imagine for a moment that the Cuban Missile Crisis actually ended because someone 'convinced' Russia to back off. Or that someone 'convinced' England that the price of taking back the American colonies was too great. Would that have been evil? Tempting fate, changing what was meant to be, maybe. But evil?
Also, using mind control allows for someone to get their rocks off without the need to harm the person they are with, and they can make them forget afterwards. Still considered evil-ish, but it causes less harm (physical and psychological) than forceful options.
Dammit, why'd you bring real history into this? There's a lot of context missing in this and the powers are relevant but first we gotta point out the issues with the two historical points you raised.

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And yes, I put a lot of thought in this. I've written many erotic stories focusing on these fetishes and like any geek, I regularly wonder what I'd be like if I had such abilities. I would likely do a lot of good, while acting from the shadows to avoid those who would do me harm. But I'd still be having an above average amount of sex with women I'd normally not be with. And they'd all be very happy and very exclusive. And I'd always leave them better than how I found them.
You, like anyone else, would be a product of the environment and the powers you have. This game, while wonderful fantasy, would pale in comparison to such details. X-Men explores such things regularly while you also have other media. But the point here is that IF you were given such powers, the morality of such things would be skewed. For example, Jessica Jones has a guy who can basically have you do whatever he wants by speaking it into existence. JJ was powerless against him in the first few seasons and she has super strength and incredible durability while working as a private detective in the Devil's Kitchen (IIRC. Might be the Bronx).

That caused her some dissonance as she went with his suggestions and eventually killed someone because of it. The story on that is pretty good so I won't go into details but eventually, she's found a way to fight against such a powerful foe who has powers similar to the mind control in the game. The point of this story? Basically, that the person's morality was really skewed when he could make people do whatever he wanted and it really did make the story more intriguing (go watch the first two seasons of Jessica Jones and you're watching a Dr. Who who makes a great damn villain...)

Carl Jung speaks of our shadow, the traits of ourselves that society tells us are bad. Things like aggression, lust and a need to dominate others. My experience is if you suppress them for too long, they burst out when you least expect them, leading to most crimes of passion in the world. But if you appease them in a controlled fashion, nobody gets hurt.
Arguably, if you have the power to dominate, you would do it, but I highly doubt most people are wired for domination. That's certainly one dichotomy, but I think a few others are more prominent. For game purposes, I choose a different route, but that's just me.

In any case, if you want to know the point of the historical context above, put mind control in the hands of the people that practiced such social control in the past. History would be VERY different if you look at just the Cuban Missile spoilers and gave them the power to be evil. Likewise, imagine how the world would be if you gave powers to the ones that were the underdogs in the American Revolution spoilers. Imagine what mind control would do for them...
 
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You put Britain into context, and America fought a counterrevolution for slavery. The settlers wanted the profits of slavery and we still face that horrible legacy in America. Read further down as I put these points into a new context...
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ralph_on_me

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With console commands, it's possible to try out all the polymorph options. Just keep resetting your polymorph skill to 0, then buy the ranks again. You'll get the shapeshifting option that night.
Or just keep triggering polymorph every day until everything is maxed out
 

djustmie

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Man
Some of us take this game and the abbilitys way to serious.

Its a game no more no less.
Some ugly dumbass got the
possibilities to. Screw girls.

He act as the average teenager
No big deal or am i such a wimp
not to believe there is no futher plot?

Just my 2 cnts
 
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@Lokisalmon : Or just type "transform_upgrade = True", that's what triggers the menu. Or use the Radioactive Mod.

@Ungawa : Awesome response. And of course there was context missing, hence the words imagine for a moment. Of course, the way I understood it is that they fought not to abolish slavery but unlawful taxation, the right to the sweat of one's brow. Ayn Rand comes to mind here.

@Centurion : I have yet to see any evidence of the inalienable rights of every man, woman and child in today's representatives of that declaration. But you are correct, we're off-topic.

The point I was trying to make is not whether or not Billy is good or bad, but simply that every time it comes up, @badblonde goes on the assumption that Billy is bad and that he doesn't care. Now, @badblonde may know @Baal7734 's intentions better than the rest of us, but I'd like to believe it's possible (albeit more difficult and possibly less fun) to control the temptation and be a guy that DOES care, while still getting his needs seen to. At least for one playthrough.
 
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If you think it's off topic to point out that different people will take to powers if they were brought up in a different environment, that's entirely fair, but ignores the context I've put into the topic when I point out the environment and how people react to it.

@DarkPhilosopher - Ugh... Ayn Rand strikes again... Her works are horrible fiction for upper class yuppies and ignores a LOT of actual history.

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Just remember that the entire point I'm making is that within the context of this story, how people would use their powers would change depending on the environment that they're in which is what I'm pointing out. You give powers to a no talent (before injections) like Billy and you may just get a horndog who wants nothing more than sex.

Give it to someone that demands more out of life, and it changes their lives in far more considerable ways. It reminds me of what the wizard said in Harry Potter about Voldemorte (the wand crafter. Forget his name)

Everyone is great in different ways. Even Voldy himself. The question was in how they made themselves great.
 

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How does one make use of a Sex bot-programmed target?
By accepting the money they hand u over after they are done with other students than you.

Thats it.
You cant let them work full time for you or something. Its storybased and you have not much influence on it
 
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