Ren'Py Sweet Affection [v0.11.3] [Naughty Attic Gaming]
BloodyFace
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This is now made from a fresh full HQ PC download
Before i tried it on the Patch but i downloaded the Whole Game again ton test if the Update was the Problem but after Full Download still nothing
BloodyFace
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We figured out what happened...
After you've started the level up at the cabin (Part 1), there is a prompt at the end to SAVE HERE if you'd like to go back home before Part 2 was released.
If you have no save from that point, you cannot go back to the cabin.
If you have an older save (before you started the level up), you can use that.
We can offer you a save from that point, or you cheat your way up to 10 again, play the mandatory events from the walkthrough and push to 100% affection.
The last option would be cheating to Level E1 and replay all missing events (Day 2 Night 'til the end) from the gallery.
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Tehemai
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Jeez, anyone notice almost all the side girls trauma victims with trust issues?
I saw people complaining about how slow this game is, which believe it or not I was actually kinda excited for. But playing it I have to say this is the first time I've genuinely considered if the harem juice is worth the melodrama squeeze. They're all just so exhausting. I'm constantly needing to take breaks from their sob stories.
Maybe the real problem here isn't just that the game is too slow but more that you're playing through many many variations of the same draining character trope. There is better ways to write a story arc than just constantly rehabilitating damaged chicks.
I saw people complaining about how slow this game is, which believe it or not I was actually kinda excited for. But playing it I have to say this is the first time I've genuinely considered if the harem juice is worth the melodrama squeeze. They're all just so exhausting. I'm constantly needing to take breaks from their sob stories.
Maybe the real problem here isn't just that the game is too slow but more that you're playing through many many variations of the same draining character trope. There is better ways to write a story arc than just constantly rehabilitating damaged chicks.
Your impression of the side girls is different than mine.
Sure - some have trust issues but, IMO, the reasons for those issues are different across the women in the story, much like RL.
Laura is the legal guardian for a child, and she Has to take that into account when she chooses whether or not to build a relationship with a guy.
Jane has a female friend who is both jealous and undependable but she helped her survive a nasty upbringing, so she is, at least initially, torn about what to do while slowly allowing the MC into her life.
Sydney has an abusive family member that she is trying to escape.
I see the back stories of each of the side LIs as giving a reason for them to be interested in a guy like the MC (and we have a number who are still rated as 'level 1' - so only the very beginning of their stories have been told so far).
I have not seen:
* any debutantes from happy, loving families
* high school prom queens who met their one true love in high school
* quiet and pretty 'nerdy' girls who have gone off to university to get their PHDs in STEM.
etc...
What story is there to tell regarding the women who already have the relationships they want or are at the places in their lives where they are pursuing their dreams and are happy with their choices?
Why would the women I just described be interested in a meaningful romantic relationship with a guy like the MC given that they are already happy with their lives?
Hazel is one of the side LI's I am interested in, and we will soon get her next round of content.
I'm looking forward to seeing the how and why of the relationship she builds with the MC; much like my own experiences meeting women in bars - some of those meetings actually did lead to more than just 'thanks for the drink - bye' or one-night stands.
Cheers!!
Tehemai
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Exactly like what I said, small variations of the same trope. Their trauma and type of trust issues are all slightly different. But otherwise, you're going through the exact same story beats with the same type of socially shut off scarred character.
I'm confused. Are you suggesting that non-traumatized women don't want relationships? Or that no woman even remotely approaching well-adjusted would ever want to date MC specifically because he's a loser? Cause the latter can be fixed.
There's obviously plenty of other types of stories other than being their shoulder to cry on baggage handler. They don't all need to be deeply disturbed from a long dark past of abuse/death that you have to spend the entire game nursing them back from. The game could instead focus on the actual relationship. Give them more dynamic personalities as to make overcoming even day to day obstacles worthwhile. Tone the melodrama way down as to give levity room to breathe.
E.g. Take Laura. Instead of having her story revolve entirely around a grief stricken mute little girl for whom she's martyring herself for, maybe make the adopted daughter somewhat normal/upbeat? You can keep the character but shift Laura's story more on getting the business off the ground with this quirky daughter and persistent new guy in her life. The daughter could have lost her real mother as a toddler, an ordeal mostly just for Laura. But one that she's not stuck on. One that has already payed some happiness dividends as to not completely erode her mental health. This gives Laura room to develop a personality of her own. And allows MC to engage with both without all the constant tiptoeing, comforting and boohooing.
Point being pretty girls or not, even in real life people are notoriously unfond of dating those with overwhelming baggage. So why make the game focus entirely around rehabilitating multiple variations of this type of person?
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BloodyFace
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J..D just posted the weekly report.
Since it's a bit different, mostly talking about the poll results and future plans, we decided to give it a separate post here.
Please feel free to take a looksy. As always, I link directly to Subscribestar.
Don't worry, it's also free, like every other Progress Report.
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One thing I should mention beforehand, which is also mentioned in the post itself.
Development on Sweet Affection will NOT stop until it's finished.
Since it's a bit different, mostly talking about the poll results and future plans, we decided to give it a separate post here.
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One thing I should mention beforehand, which is also mentioned in the post itself.
Development on Sweet Affection will NOT stop until it's finished.
Again - Your impression of the side girls is different than mine.
That is fine, OC.
We view the women quite differently...
Where you see very slight differences in shades of gray (minor variations on trauma) - I see different secondary colors - who each woman is, how they approach their life and what motivates them - I see women who are so much more than just victims of their pasts.
SA has been in development for more than 6.5 years, and there has been no hue and cry from the $ supporters to, for example, redo Laura's entire backstory - retell her story and break continuity with everything that has gone before.
There is, IMO, enough variety in SA that most people will find one or more side LIs who they want to pursue - story wise.
I know I am not interested in all of the different side LIs - just the ones that resonate with me.
What the more detailed stories will be for the women who are in the process of catching up to Laura and Jane - for example - women like Hazel - remains to be seen.
The other side LIs will get more story time but slowly.
If you do not like the stories of the women who are well developed, then the best you can do is to decide to return months or more down the road to see if you enjoy the new content that will be added post Feb 2025.
Regardless of what you choose to do, GL finding AVNs that you enjoy!
Cheers!
Your posts and incredibly kind review (Thank you for that, really.) say more about you than about my game.
"even in real life people are notoriously unfond of dating those with overwhelming baggage"
You only look at the drama and see that as hindrance where most players see the person.
You think about drama as something to be solved when it's simply something people live with.
You only see the drama and not the happiness that might follow.
Because I think you can ask everyone who ever dated someone who has a lot of baggage.
Those are usually the most meaningful relationships.
Simple because those are the people that don't take anything for granted, especially not happiness.
There is a lot of drama in Sweet Affection, yes.
But that is not what my game is about.
It is about all the characters finding their happiness in their own way.
Not casting aside their pain but embracing it and making it a part of them.
Drama is only part of the journey.
However, I can understand that that is hard to see, at this moment.
All the routes are unfinished so you can not see that happy ending just yet.
As for this line.
" But it certainly doesn't work for long drawn out erotic VNs. "
Then it's a very good thing I've been saying for years now that Sweet Affection is not a porn game.
That it's about the story and the journey of all the characters, that H-Content is simply a part of that journey.
Thank you for your messages and I hope you find something else to enjoy on this website.
Tehemai
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I'm sorry but frankly I don't think there was any persons here so to speak. I think you've fallen for the trap of conflating trauma with characterization and overcoming it with character development. In reality, a person is more than just one sad event that shaped their life. And having their entire existence gravitate around one crippling problem does not make for a more meaningful story nor deeper romance. It just makes for constant toxic scenarios that suffocates both those things.Your posts and incredibly kind review (Thank you for that, really.) say more about you than about my game.
"even in real life people are notoriously unfond of dating those with overwhelming baggage"
You only look at the drama and see that as hindrance where most players see the person.
You think about drama as something to be solved when it's simply something people live with.
You only see the drama and not the happiness that might follow.
Because I think you can ask everyone who ever dated someone who has a lot of baggage.
Those are usually the most meaningful relationships.
Simple because those are the people that don't take anything for granted, especially not happiness.
There is a lot of drama in Sweet Affection, yes.
But that is not what my game is about.
It is about all the characters finding their happiness in their own way.
Not casting aside their pain but embracing it and making it a part of them.
Drama is only part of the journey.
However, I can understand that that is hard to see, at this moment.
All the routes are unfinished so you can not see that happy ending just yet.
As for this line.
" But it certainly doesn't work for long drawn out erotic VNs. "
Then it's a very good thing I've been saying for years now that Sweet Affection is not a porn game.
That it's about the story and the journey of all the characters, that H-Content is simply a part of that journey.
Thank you for your messages and I hope you find something else to enjoy on this website.
That's why such people almost never form healthy relationships. They need to find good therapists for a chance at happiness. Not boyfriends. And it's not because no one wants to build this supposedly deeper trauma based relationship. But because realistically, building anything but the most shallow relationship with such dysfunctional people is impossible.
And the biggest issue isn't the existence of such a one dimensional character. But more that they're almost all written in nearly identical fashion. It can hardly be argued that these characters are a random assortment of single women. Most are social disconnects with male trust issues. With jackasses in their life that they're constantly comparing MC to. You can probably get away with one such story arc. But it is a complete narrative disaster to have it for nearly every character.
Hell if you ever wanted to go the harem route, you already have the best excuse of any game here given their similarities. Just make it one big emotional support group complete with fold out chairs and bad coffee! MC as the support group leader can use his junk as the "talking stick". Letting them take turns talking about their tragic pasts and what lecherous insensitive things the Jeremys and Daves of their life did today.
Jokes aside, I hope you can learn to take this constructive criticism less personally and understand where it's actually coming from. Yes, people are leaving bad reviews. But there is a reason for it beyond just your rationalization of expecting porn. Read the reviews. Many wanted deep relationships and stories. But the harsh truth is you simply did not provide it for them. And if you're providing people with neither good story nor good porn, obviously you're not gonna get good reception.
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Kratos132
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It's stuff like this that keep me coming back to this thread, despite the fact that my interest in this game has waned completely. Going full-on keyboard psychoanalyst on a guy who was making an actual point and providing arguments for his point of view is just, man, I don't think I can begin to describe it. Someone who is confident in what they're creating doesn't feel the need to personally insult and mock people who dared leave a bad review, yet you fall for this so easily I'm starting to think you foam at the mouth every time another 1 star review gets added.
And the rest of your message is about as contradictory as it gets, if I had to guess I'd say you don't have the slightest clue what you are doing, like the meme says, "Random Bullshit go!" First you say the games has a lot of drama, followed up with saying "that's not what this game is about", instead the game is about the journey. So far so good but oh what's this? " Drama is only part of the journey." Oh and the game isn't about H content but that's also part of the journey which means, you guessed it, the game is about the drama AND the H-content and whatever other word you're going to fixate on and repeat over and over again until Semantic satiation kicks in and we're all missing a few brain cells from trying to understand what on earth your point is.
And the icing on the cake is when you mention how this is all "hard to see" because the routes are unfinished, so it is NOT just about the journey but it's about the ending as well. In your attempt to counter someone's rather constructive criticisms, you made yourself look like a babbling fool who can't grasp the actual meaning behind the words he's using. If anything, Tehemai's reply to you in the previous post is far too forgiving and I applaud him for his restraint. Unlike him, I hope you keep this little crusade of yours going, throwing fits and attacking people almost completely unprovoked, it's actually some of the best entertainment this site has to offer.
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"Drama is not what the game is about. But everyone that has ever been in a relationship with such a person knows that the heaviest baggage uplifts people into the most meaningful relationships. That's why I put so many similarly trauma-focused characters in my game. Specifically to provide the player with the large amount of crucial relationship fuel we call drama. Which is but a small irrelevant part of the game.
What this game is actually about is finding happiness. That's what the player is really traveling this long bumpy road of undeserved hostility and depression to eventually reach. Can't you writing obsessed porn freaks take a break from all your spying on your mom peeing games to try to understand? It's about the journey, not the destination. The copious amount of drama all along the way is inconsequential. What matters is finding happiness at the end. "
Contradictions? Surely you jest.
First - Congrats on making your first post here on the SA thread... using an almost 7 year old user id no less...
Cracking the seal on one of those alt id's must have come after quite the internal discussion...
Where to use your very first comment with this alt id created so long ago???
'It's stuff like this that keep me coming back to this thread' - and commenting with different user id's as well!
You and the other user id - same person or different persons - doesn't really matter does it, can go on and on about how SA should change, while ignoring the perspectives of others because they don't match your own.
As has been said now, many times, what you both are asking for is Not something $ supporters are asking for.
It is fine to have your own opinion and desires but expecting a story that is already about 6.5 years into the journey to ignore the asks of the $ supporters and, instead - adapt to your desires/address your unusual critiques is simply an act of entitlement.
I understand - this is not unusual on this forum.
So, this creates quite the non-conundrum for the dev...
Continue to create the story that this community enjoys and that many here actually support with $
or
Ignore the road maps already published - short term and long term - to provide a story that $ supporters are not asking for.
What to do??
What to do???
If you don't like the way this AVN is being told, then why spend your time here versus finding other AVNs on F95 that you can take for free and find actual enjoyment in?
If the best use of your time is to continue to criticize an AVN you don't enjoy versus moving on to other AVNs that you enjoy playing, that is a 'You' problem... Not a 'Sweet Affection' problem.
As I said to the other user id - GL finding AVNs on F95 that you enjoy playing.
Cheers!!
Kratos132
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I won't reply to the rest of your message as it is inconsequential at best, if not asinine and verbose, undeserving of trying to decipher.First - Congrats on making your first post here on the SA thread... using an almost 7 year old user id no less...
Cracking the seal on one of those alt id's must have come after quite the internal discussion...
Where to use your very first comment with this alt id created so long ago???
'It's stuff like this that keep me coming back to this thread' - and commenting with different user id's as well!
You and the other user id - same person or different persons - doesn't really matter does it, can go on and on about how SA should change, while ignoring the perspectives of others because they don't match your own.
But the "alt id" thing cracks me up every time you bring it up, and you do that a lot. One could say you're someone else's alt ID, I wonder whose?
If the best use of your time is to continue to defend an AVN you do enjoy versus playing said AVN, that is a 'You' problem... If you compare the time you've spent babbling like a buffoon and coming up with conspiracy theories about which users are alts or not with the time I've spent writing 1 message (now 2!) and 1 review, you'd certainly find your own point not only becoming moot instantly but also being used against you, much like the whole "alt" thing.
I really hope you're pretending to be some kind of paranoid character in this thread and this isn't a reflection of your general world view. Believing someone made an account back in 2018 as an alt with the sole purpose to shit on a game 7 years in the future is not only projecting, thinking everyone is as terminally online as yourself, but a complete lack of understanding of causality and the linear concept of time.
Cheers!!
Tehemai
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First I was a porn-focused meanie and now I'm someone else's alt? And where did I even ask the dev for anything? I just went on the discussion thread of a game I was playing to see if anyone else experienced the same issues with the game's writing. Then a day or two later after finishing my playthrough, I wrote a final review and moved onto another game.First - Congrats on making your first post here on the SA thread... using an almost 7 year old user id no less...
Cracking the seal on one of those alt id's must have come after quite the internal discussion...
Where to use your very first comment with this alt id created so long ago???
'It's stuff like this that keep me coming back to this thread' - and commenting with different user id's as well!
You and the other user id - same person or different persons - doesn't really matter does it, can go on and on about how SA should change, while ignoring the perspectives of others because they don't match your own.
As has been said now, many times, what you both are asking for is Not something $ supporters are asking for.
It is fine to have your own opinion and desires but expecting a story that is already about 6.5 years into the journey to ignore the asks of the $ supporters and, instead - adapt to your desires/address your unusual critiques is simply an act of entitlement.
I understand - this is not unusual on this forum.
It was up to the dev what he chose to do with the feedback. And what he chose was a reply. One insinuating in the nicest way possible that I was too porn-addled to understand all the complexity and depth of a baggage-based relationship. I'm not sure what you would expect of me. Should I not have responded to that? To others that are nice enough to come to my defense? To those rabidly accusing me of being an alt for having agreed with someone?
If you want to know the truth of it, I didn't ask for specific changes because I don't think this game is all that fixable. Especially since I focused on just the worst issue in my review. That's why I gave it a 1 star. To warn my future self and others that this game is unfortunately a dead end. The conversation I had with the dev was mostly just to explain to him why I came to that conclusion. I understand he put a lot into this so I felt I owed him that much.
Personally, if I received that kind of criticism I'd reflect on why my writing was coming off that way. Obviously I would not be happy but even if I disagreed with the specifics, it's still a strong indicator that I'm not getting my stories and characters off the way I intended. But it's no sweat off my ass if it gets rationalized away entirely. It's not my craft.
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When I find an AVN to check out, I look at the tags, decide whether to download or not, and if downloaded -check it out.
If I like it, I stay and provide feedback on what I like/what I don't like and engage the community.
I also assess how long an AVN has been in production.
An AVN that is out for a few months to perhaps a year, and where the dev is asking for feedback - I feel like I have something to offer as One person who tried their creation, and I will provide that feedback - especially if I enjoy the AVN enough to return for multiple downloads.
If an AVN has been in production for years, I recognize the best way to offer feedback is by choosing to support a dev with $ and commenting as a supporter with skin in the game.
I know a number of devs who don't bother checking F95 because some of the user-ids think that their opinions have the merit and weight worth far more than that of a single user id.
As for me - if I have little positive to say about an AVN, I actually choose to move on.
If enough aspects of an AVN are not to my liking, like: the writing style, the render quality, the graphics style, UI, etc, I might offer feedback once, but then I move on.
After all - I've has 'my say' so - why stay?
For those who want to camp and complain - have at it!
I have a significant backlog of AVNs to check out on F95 and I intend to enjoy one or more on my weekend.
Cheers!!
If I like it, I stay and provide feedback on what I like/what I don't like and engage the community.
I also assess how long an AVN has been in production.
An AVN that is out for a few months to perhaps a year, and where the dev is asking for feedback - I feel like I have something to offer as One person who tried their creation, and I will provide that feedback - especially if I enjoy the AVN enough to return for multiple downloads.
If an AVN has been in production for years, I recognize the best way to offer feedback is by choosing to support a dev with $ and commenting as a supporter with skin in the game.
I know a number of devs who don't bother checking F95 because some of the user-ids think that their opinions have the merit and weight worth far more than that of a single user id.
As for me - if I have little positive to say about an AVN, I actually choose to move on.
If enough aspects of an AVN are not to my liking, like: the writing style, the render quality, the graphics style, UI, etc, I might offer feedback once, but then I move on.
After all - I've has 'my say' so - why stay?
For those who want to camp and complain - have at it!
I have a significant backlog of AVNs to check out on F95 and I intend to enjoy one or more on my weekend.
Cheers!!